Canaan reports Q3 revenue of $150.5 million, up 104% year over year, and raises guidance for Q4 amidst strong North American demand.
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- Canaan reported Q3 2025 revenue of over $150 million, a 50.2% increase quarter-over-quarter and 104.4% year-over-year, surpassing their guidance range.
- The company noted strong demand recovery in North America despite increased mining costs due to US tariff policies, with North America accounting for over 50% of potential deliveries in Q4.
- Canaan achieved a record high of 10 exahash per second of computing power delivered in Q3, with the average selling price increasing by 33.8% year-over-year.
- In Q3, the Avalon Home Series contributed 10.3% of total product revenue and about 20% of gross profit, with plans to launch new products and expand market presence.
- The company is exploring energy infrastructure projects, including a 20MW wind-powered mining facility in Texas and a pilot project in Canada utilizing stranded natural gas.
- Canaan reported a gross profit of $16.6 million for Q3, with a gross margin of approximately 17%, and increased its Bitcoin holdings to an all-time high.
- The company provided Q4 revenue guidance of $175 million to $205 million, citing cautious optimism amid potential policy uncertainties and market volatility.
- Management emphasized ongoing strategic initiatives in technology-driven energy operations and consumer products, along with expanding their digital asset treasury.
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OPERATOR - (00:01:41)
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Canaan Inc.'s third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After management's prepared remarks, we will have a question and answer session. Please note that this event is being recorded now. I'd like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Gwyn Lobo from Investor Relations for the company. Please go ahead, Gwyn.
Gwyn Lobo - Investor Relations - (00:02:08)
Thank you. Operator. Hello everyone and welcome to our earnings conference call. Joining us today are Chairman and CEO Nangong Zhang and our CFO, Jin (James) Chang. Leo Wong, Vice President of Capital Markets and Corporate Development and Shi Zhang, Senior IR Manager will also be available during the question and answer session. Our CEO will start the call by providing an overview of the company and performance highlights for the quarter. Our CFO will then provide details on the Company's operating and financial results for the period before we open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, I would like to refer you to our Safe harbor statement in our earnings press release. Today's call will include forward looking statements. These statements include, but are not limited to our outlook for the Company and statements that estimate or project future operating results and the performance of the Company. These statements speak only as of today and the Company assumes no obligation to revise any forward looking statements that may be made in today's press release, call or webcast. Except as required by law, these statements do not guarantee future performance and are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Please refer to the press release and the risk factors and documents we file with the securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent annual report on Form 20F, for information on risks, uncertainties and assumptions that may cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in such statements. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss both GAAP financial measures and certain non GAAP financial measures which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of the Company's performance. These non GAAP measures should be considered in addition to, and not as a substitute for or in isolation from GAAP results. You can find additional disclosures regarding these non GAAP measures, including reconciliations with comparable GAAP results in our earnings press release, which is posted on the Company's website. With that, I will now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Nangong Zhang. Please go ahead.
Ng - (00:04:46)
Thank you. Gwyn. Hello everyone, this is Ng, CEO of Canaan. Welcome to our earnings call together with our CFO James. We are calling from our Singapore headquarters to discuss our Q3 2025 business results. And let us start this with you during the third quarter the global macro environment remained highly uncertain, in particular the US reciprocal so tariff policy increased mining cost in North America. However, we also asw the resilience of North American market. Once there was a bit more clarity, demand started to recover. Clearly, during this quarter, Bitcoin prices increased from approximately 107,000 at the end of June and about 114,000 at end of September September. This shows a rapid increase in total global hashrate which rose from 846xhash per second at the end of Q2 to 1041exahash per second at the end of Q3, accompanied by a significant rise in mining difficulty. With growing energy competition globally, the mining industry is facing higher operational challenges. Despite the complex external environment, we delivered results that exceeded expectations. Total revenue for the quarter exceed US$150 million up 50.2% quarter over quarter, another 104.4% year over year and beat our guidance range of 125 million to US$145 million. Gross profit reached US$16.6 million, much higher than the US$9.3 million reported in Q2. This improvement in the revenue and gross profit reflect our rapid response to the market demand and ongoing optimization of global mining operations supported by strong asles and revenue momentum. Our cash balance at the end of the quarter increased to 119 million US dollars representing an 80.9% screen show increase in mining machine asles. We delivered a record high of 10 exahash per second of computing power in Q3, up 55.6% and 37.7% year over year. Our average selling price increased 33.8% year over year to 11.8 US dollars per terahash. Despite a slight rise in cost per terahash due to the changes in international trade policies. During this quarter we achieved a product gross margin of approximately 17%. We continue to serve strong hashrate demand in Asia and also captured the recurring demand in North America. Notably during this quarter we secured large orders from well known customers in the region including BitFury, Cypher, CleanSpark and Loxer. In early October we signed a purchase agreement for over 50,000 A15 Pro models with a US based miner client. This highlights growing recognition our product performance, quality and service by North American institutional customers in the consumer grade mining machine market. Our Avalon Home Series continue to lead in this emerging space. In addition to regular marketing and promotional activities, we have also included the Home Series in our open source code program. We are actively growing our user and developer community and expanding our brand influence. At the asme time, we are exploring new applications of the Home Series in smart home scenarios. Currently, we are developing software to make our products compatible with matter, the mainstream protocol standard for smart home devices. In terms of consumer grade product asles, we delivered 14,000 units of the Avalon Home Series in Q3, generating over US$12 million in revenue, a sequential increase of 115.3%. The Avalon Q Model was the top performer this quarter by supporting scale asles through Channel Partners, the Home series achieved nearly US$4 million in gross profit with a solid gross margin of around 33%. Overall, our total product revenue reached US$118.6 million with gross profit close to US$20 million. In Q3, the Avalon Home series contributed 10.3% of total product revenue and about 20% of product gross profit. Based on what you are seeing, competition in the consumer money market remains relatively healthy. We plan to maintain solid gross margins with launching new products and expanding channel coverage to drive scale. Turning to Mining Operations Despite a notable increase in mining difficulty during this quarter, our disciplined execution allow us to steadily advance hashrate development, analyzation and overall mining efficiency. As a result, we generated another quarterly record of US$30.55 million in mining revenue while maintaining competitive power costs. In the third quarter, we added approximately 1xhash per second of newly deployed capacity in North America, bringing our total deployed hashrate to 9.3xhash per second by the end of the quarter and approximately 7.8x/ rates per second. Energized. We mined 267 BTC during this quarter which further contributed to our crypto asset balance. Our bitcoin holding reached an all time high of 1,582 BTC by the end of the quarter, providing solid support for our balance sheet. We are also actively exploring innovative mining projects this quarter we partnered with Solona to deploy the machines at a 20 megawatts wind powered mining facility in Texas. In Canada, we worked with a local energy infrastructure partner on a pilot project that converts stranded natural gas into computing power. We also supply the mining equipment for project designed to support local grid stability. These projects mark our first step into the energy infrastructure space bringing with the utilization of stranded energy. Our long term vision is to integrate high density interruptible bitcoin mining laws with energy intensive AI and HPC workloads, building a future where computing and energy infrastructure grow together. We are entering an era in which AI software and data centers will profoundly shape daily life. At the asme time, we believe that public awareness and the Demand for sustainable energy will continue to grow. Throughout Kenyan's history we have held a consistent belief technology should make society more efficient. Today, we are seeing that vision becomes too materialized. We have unique advantages in this transformation. With more than a decade of developing technologies that make chips and systems more energy efficient, we are now extending these capabilities to both home use and traditional energy sector. Energy operators can use our computing system to balance the grid, improve transmission efficiency and generate new revenue. On the consumer side, utilizing axis heat from home mining is only the beginning. Over time we envision this concept expanding into broader home computing applications for R and D. We continue to innovate and upgrade our products. At the end of October we officially launched our next generation Avalon 8016 series. The the air cooled A16XP model delivers 300ths of hashrate per unit with an industry leading power efficiency of 12.8 watts per thash. This marks the first time our air cooled miner have reached 300thz level, clearly showcasing our strong leadership in Bitcoin ASIC design. With improvements to production and supply chain, our global delivery system is now more flexible and resilient. Today we have manufacturing mobility layouts in mainland China, Malaysia and the US working seamlessly together to support delivery and after asle service for consumers worldwide. While enhancing our product and supply chain capabilities, we have also sharpened our focus on core operations. Starting this quarter, we realigned our R and D team and team around the projects that offer clear revenue, visibility and strategic value. We have also streamlined headcount to support this focus. In addition to organizational and cost optimizations, we are also allocating additional resources to expand our business footprint. We have established a dedicated consumer product team to optimize product quality and accelerate product integration. Additional we are also allocating more resources to our hashrate finance and energy infrastructure interactives. We see new power related opportunities in many regions from home users and small businesses to power utilities in Europe and Asia, customers are exploring ASIC based global grid balancing applications. In North America, stranded energy opportunities continue to grow and with similar projects emerging globally including the Middle east in our Digital Asset treasury measurement, we continue to execute our flexible strategy. At the end of the third quarter we held 1,500 bitcoins and 2,830 Ethereum. In early November, during a market pullback, we strategically acquired an additional 100 bitcoins as a part of Crypto Assets management strategy, further enhancing our asset allocation and the potential liquidity. To sum up, Q3 was a highly strategic quarter in knit development journey. We achieved strong revenue growth and improved gross profit while also optimizing our business structure and organization. At the asme time, we made an encouraging progress in several new areas. Looking ahead, we are fully focused on driving Q4 asles, fulfilling large customer orders, and converting pre orders for our new A16 series. At the asme time, we are accelerating the deployment of newly signed innovate mining projects to further expand our mining hatrick. We are closely monitoring the impact of US Tariff policy, macro liquidity conditions and the potential changes in global mining and energy regulations. Taking all of these factors together, we remain cautiously optimistic for the fourth quarter and expect total revenue to be in the range of US$175 million to US$205 million. This outlook is based on current market and operating conditions and the actual results may vary with policy uncertainties and market volatility. This concludes my prepared remarks. Thank you everyone. Now I will hand it over to our CFO James please Sir thank you.
James - Chief Financial Officer - (00:20:32)
Thank you, Ng, and good day everyone. This is James, CFO of Canaan. I'm very glad to share our Q3 financial results with you. Even today we are witnessing Bitcoin price under big pressure. As Ng stated at the start of the call, the macroeconomic environment in Q3 was high. Highly uncertain reciprocal tariff policies from the United States added mining costs in North America. Global network hash rate growth continuously outpaced Bitcoin's price appreciation. This all led to increased mining difficulty and intensified operational challenges across the industry. Despite market volatility, we delivered strong results this quarter. Our revenue exceeded our own expectations, our gross profit showed consistent growth with the average selling price climbing again and our reserves of cash and digital assets increased significantly. In our ending balance sheet of September, let me give a quick summary of our financial performance. First, we delivered a total revenue reaching $150.5 million, exceeding our guidance and representing a 104% year over year increase. This was primarily driven by growth in our product sales of $118.6 million, surpassing the $100 million milestone for the first time in the past three years. This growth was achieved while we set a new record of 10 exahash of quarterly computing power sold and average selling price continued rising to $11.80 per terahash per second, a new high for the past two years. After a very quiet Q2, our clients from the United States studied actively placing sizable and repeating orders for the A15 series. Sales of North American customers contributed 31% of our total revenue in quarter three. We are happy to witness the strong demand recovery of the North American market. Also, our sales of Avalon home series generated 12.2 million in revenue during the quarter, representing a 115% quarter over quarter increase. This is the first time Avalon Home Products have contributed over 10% of total product revenue since the launch just over a year ago. As Ng said, we are cultivating the consumer market and establishing our leadership position in the newly defined household mining category. Second, our mining business also delivered another record result this quarter. Mining revenue reached $30.6 million, an all time high and a 241% year over year increase. We mined 267 bitcoins during the quarter, representing 82% year over year growth. During the quarter, we deployed over 8,000 minutes mining machines across our projects in the United States and other countries, expanding our total deployed hash rate by 14% from 8.15 exahash per second at the end of quarter 2 to 9.3 exahash per second at the End of Quarter 3. Our installed computing power in the United States also grew by 20% from 3.66 to per second at the end of quarter two to 4.4 exahash per second at the end of quarter three. We also strategically closed our mining operations in Kazakhstan and initiated a small scale project in Malaysia. Next, Our profitability continued to improve this quarter. Gross profit reached 16.6% million, up 78.6% quarter over quarter, marking a significant turnaround from a GROSS Loss of $21.5 million in the same period last year. Product Gross margin reached 17% this quarter. Both gross profit and margin continued their growth in quarter three, extending the upward trajectory and reinforcing the positive trend. Our Avalon Home series generated nearly $4 million in gross profit with a gross margin of approximately 33%. The Avalon home series accounted for around 10.3% of product revenue and it contributed 20% of the product's gross profit. The Home Series has already become a stable revenue pillar and a recognized gross profit contributor. Last but not least, our total cryptocurrency treasury reached approximately 1,582 bitcoins and 2,803 ethereums with an estimated market value of approximately $189 million. At the end of Q3, our unrealized holdover gain was approximately $87 million, reflecting the appreciation in value of the digital assets accumulated from mining and other operations. As of October 31, our total Bitcoin treasury increased to 1,610 as previously disclosed in our monthly report. In early November, we further strengthened our digital assets portfolio by purchasing another 100 bitcoin. Turning to expenses our operating expenses totaled approximately $40.5 million. We recorded $1.5 million in one time expenses relating to the operational efficiency initiatives including organizational optimization, travel control measures and other related items. In addition, we recorded $1.2 million in impairment related to mining machines deployed in Kazakhstan. By the end of quarter three, the price of Bitcoin increased to around $113,000 versus around 107 states at the end of quarter two. The price of Ethereum increased to around 4,100 at the end of quarter three versus around 2,500 at the end of quarter two. These price appreciations resulted in an aggregate unrealized fair value gain of $5.7 million on our digital asset holdings. A noncash change in fair value of preferred Shares impacted our Q3 bottom line by $9.5 million. This included $5.4 million from the Series A1 preferred shares which were fully converted during the quarter, and another $4.0 million from Series A preferred shares which were fully cons converted in early October. To provide a clearer view of our underlying operational performance, we have excluded the impact of this accounting treatment from our non GAAP measures. With all preferred shares now fully converted, we expect Q4 to include a final impact related to the change in fair value of this instrument. Benefiting from strong top line growth, improved margins and firm cost discipline, we delivered a positive adjusted EBITDA of $2.8 million in quarter three. Our net loss per ADS narrowed to just $0.05 US dollar versus $0.27 in the same period last year, demonstrating continued momentum toward profitability. Turning to our balance sheet and cash flow, we generated a net cash inflow of $53 million in Q3. This was driven by $189 million in sales collections, the highest quarterly level in the past two years and supplemented by approximately $10 million in export VAT refunds. These inflows fully converted the quarter's major cash outflows, including $56 million in waiver prepayments and $90 million for production and operations. As a result, our cash balance increased to $119 million at quarter end. Now moving to our contract liability, the balance of contract Advances reached nearly $87 million as of this quarter end, over 85% contributed by North American clients. As of the end of quarter three, we recorded account receivables of $7 million, all from the customers. Using Bitcoins as collateral for installment payments. We will continuously evaluate market demand and adopt corresponding credit policies with caution. Now turning to our recent fundraising, in early November we closed a strategic investment totaling $72 million with three top tier institutional investors, Bribe and Howard, Galaxy Digital and Waste Asset Management. The proceeds are intended to fund the acquisition and deployment of North American data center sites as well as the expansion of our Bitcoin mining machine production capacity. In late October, we renewed the ATM program to broaden banking relationships and enhance our financial flexibility for future growth initiatives. Following the renewal, we sold approximately 4.8 million of ADS raising gross proceeds of about $7.8 million. As previously reported in the monthly report, we have selected to pause further sales under the ATM for the remainder of 2020. As of the date of the earnings, we have cumulatively repurchased approximately 5.1 million ADSes for approximately $3.4 million under our share repurchase program. In the future, we plan to execute on our repurchase plan as market conditions allow us Moving forward as our CEO just mentioned, strategically we will continue our technology driven efforts with the goal of improving the efficiency of society. These efforts include the development of energy efficient chips and systems similar to what we did in the past decade. This includes an extension of our energy operations which leverages computing technologies. Also on the consumer side, these efforts include Bitcoin computing and heat reuse. To better utilize our resources, we set up additional internal controls to oversee the operation of our business. This priority is of the strategic importance and will help to provide us with additional revenue visibility. We will increase the expansion of our consumer products and energy operation, but at the same time streamline existing R and D and administration cost structure in cash flow management. We will continue to invest in R and D on new products and wafers in the supply chain and we will also seek opportunities that will increase our energy operations around the world as well as help our digital asset treasury to accumulate more digital assets on our balance sheet. All this will happen in a very dynamic environment. We remain cautiously optimistic as we execute on our strategy while focusing on protecting and increasing our shareholder value. We expect revenue for the fourth quarter to be in the range of $175 million to $205 million. This forecast reflects current market conditions. Actual results may vary given policy uncertainties and market volatility. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are now open for questions.
OPERATOR - (00:34:39)
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session as a courtesy to other investors and analysts who may wish to ask a question. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow up if you have any additional questions after the Q and A session. The Investor Relations team will be available after the call for the benefit of all participants on Today's call. If you wish to ask your question to management in Chinese, please immediately repeat your questions in English. To ask a question, please press star 11 and wait for our name to be announced. One moment for the first question. Your first question comes from the line of Mike Rondell from Northland. Please go ahead.
Mike Rondell - (00:35:20)
Hey guys, the 50,000 machine order on the A15 pros. Can you talk a little bit about delivery timing there and gross margin on those sales?
Ng - (00:35:40)
Hi, good morning. Yeah, you know, this order for more than 50,000 A15 Pro units is one of our most important deals this year. So under the contract, we expect to complete all deliveries by the end of 2025. So far we have shipped part of the orders and progressing in the remaining production and logistics as planned. Yeah, you know, given the size and the tight timeline of this order and the fact that Q4 is generally a peak period for supply chain logistics constraints, our production and operations team are working at full strength to ensure on time delivery while maintaining product quality. And also at the same time, we are expecting deliveries for other customers in parallel to avoid any impact on our other long term partners. This is a key test of our delivery management capabilities. It's a really hard job. Yeah. So for the gross margin. Yes, we have, I think we have a positive gross margin. Yeah, but maybe I cannot tell the exact numbers. Yes, we have gross margins.
Mike Rondell - (00:37:32)
Yeah, got it. And then just maybe a follow up. Your home mining sales have done really well lately. What are the margins on that business.
Ng - (00:37:46)
Line versus the industrial mining equipment? I think, you know, for our. Home mining series in quarter three, we get 33% of gross margin. And by the end of this year I think we should maintain 30%. About 30% gross margin. It is significantly higher than Industrial miners. Yeah, I think the competition. Yes, that's correct.
UNKNOWN - (00:38:32)
So.
Ng - (00:38:34)
Yeah, so for, I think for the home miners roadmap, we plan to launch several new products over the next 12 months. And you know further about the entire, you know the TUSI product portfolio, always consumer products need a refresh every year. So we need to refresh almost all existing models in the coming year. But still for 2026, our most important KPI for the home series is still go mainstream and break out of the cryptocurrency niche. So please give us some more time. Yeah, thank you.
Mike Rondell - (00:39:29)
Got it. Okay, thank you. Thank you Mike.
OPERATOR - (00:39:33)
Thank you for the questions. One moment for the next question. Next question comes from the line on Nick Charles from B. Riley, please go ahead.
Henry Hurl - (00:39:42)
Thank you operator and good morning or good evening everyone. This is Henry Hurl on for Nick Giles. So for my first question, when is the earliest you guys could ship your new A16 models and at what scale and what are your expectations on price and margin respectively? Thanks.
Ng - (00:40:03)
Yeah. The 816 series was officially launched at the end of October and now we are at the first batch, simple production and yeah, and we finished the testing stage according to our plan we will start shipping samples to selected customers by the end of this month for their testing and evaluation. This is constant with our euro launch strategy and we expect to begin our volume shipments in the fourth quarter of 2026. And yeah, and we will adjust the production and the delivery pace dynamically based on the presale and customer feedback for pricing. Even though we will adhere to market driven principles taking into supply demand account and the competitive demand dynamics and the customer mix. So as far as I think as a new flagship product A16 delivers major performance. The air-cooled A16XP can offer 3 over 300 terahash at 18 watts per terahash. So which is really industry leading. So I think it will provide higher returns per unit and also we can share these benefits with our customers. Yeah. So I think our margins based on the current wafer material and manufacturing cost, the per terahash cost for E16 is under control and within our expectations and also the yield is acceptable. So I think the product's pricing power will help us to offset some cost pressures. Sure. You know the a16 cost per cash is higher than 815. So yeah. So let's see.
Henry Hurl - (00:42:40)
Thank you. Yeah. And then for my follow up I. Wanted to get your guys thoughts on the fact that several public bitcoin miners have been very vocal about winding down. Their mining operations in the medium term.
Ng - (00:42:52)
And then at the same time supply of ASICs appears to be increasing. So what do you guys think of the market impact will be and then how is Canon responding to this trend? Yeah, I think for this question, yes we observe that some listed miners, maybe they are facing balance sheet pressure, share price performance issues and a desire to pivot toward AI HPC have publicly started their intention to reduce bitcoin mining over the medium term. Yeah. But for my perspective firstly I think the slowdown, the, you know, I don't think the global hash rate will slow down in the near term. And also the AI and HPC deployment is still needs some time by our investigation through the energy market in the US the AI HPC applications needs high quality electrical energy and which is the high quality always means higher cost. So I think fundamentally at the next one or two years the mining the power is suitable for mining is not the competition with the energy used for AI and HPC is not the same electricity. So I know our customer including ourselves is thinking about how can build mining AI ready mining facilities for the future. But in this stage deploying more bitcoin miners is still the best way to allocate energy today and generate revenues.
UNKNOWN - (00:45:27)
From.
Ng - (00:45:28)
This day not waiting for another one or two or three years. So I think still the things it's hard to be foresee for long term so we focus on yeah so because there's no answer three to five years later. So we now we are focused on cooperating with our partners to fulfill their requirements. Also we also we are trying to find more energy resources in us and building our own mining sites today and maybe and we should have potential possibilities to transfer to the AI infrastructure in the future. This is what we I personally observed in the past maybe six months. Thank you.
Henry Hurl - (00:46:29)
Great. Thank you and continued best of luck. Thank you.
OPERATOR - (00:46:36)
Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy from Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.
Kevin Cassidy - (00:46:46)
Thank you and congratulations on the strong results and your guidance for $190 million for the fourth quarter is impressive. Is this. Do you have orders also scheduled out into the first quarter? I guess. What kind of visibility are your customers giving you?
Ng - (00:47:07)
Thank you Kevin. I think quarter four is peak quarter in terms of seasonality, and we provided the guidance in a very optimistic way and also we have already collected some of the orders we try our best to deliver in quarter four. Looks to me quarter one traditionally is the low season because there is New Year and the Chinese New Year together in the western part of the world and the eastern part of the world both having all kinds of holidays and the global logistics supply chain is not in the normal shape. So I don't personally see another peak time for quarter one. I think the revenue could going down a little bit. But we will try our best to deliver quarter four first and then we predict quarter one later when we have a clear understanding about the demand. Also recently the Bitcoin price is not in a good shape so it's under turbulence and some of the customers, especially the smaller ones, they tend to be more cautious and hesitate to make up their decisions immediately. That will also have a kind of impact on quarter one orders. So we will try to make a flexible supply. Anyway currently I think the demand is still higher than supply. We just focusing on quarter four delivery first and then let's see how it goes in quarter one. Maybe we can balance between the demand, the sales and also the self mining side. If we do have some inventory we can allocate to self mining in United States, that will also be a long term strategical goal for us. Yeah, I think that's my two cents, Kevin.
Kevin Cassidy - (00:49:22)
Thank you James. That's good detail. Thank you. Maybe you did note that there's a rebound in demand in the US. Is. The US market which less sensitive to the price of bitcoin?
Ng - (00:49:49)
Sorry, come on again you mean. Okay, yeah. You had mentioned that with the price of bitcoin being down in just very recent times last few days and you mentioned that would be sensitive to the demand for mining machines. And I was just wondering if the rebound we've seen in the U.S. I think you said it was 31% of revenue in the third quarter. Whether that continues even with, you know, I guess is it less sensitive in the in North America to prices of bitcoin versus the rest of the world? Yeah. Kevin, looks to me in my observation, North America is now the leading area for global mining industry. The whole total hashrate in North America is some percentage between 35 to 40% globally, and there are around 20 listed companies in North America doing mining. They are kind of institutional players. They are more professional building up the sites, the electricity facilities and eventually becoming mining sites. So they have their schedule. It's not easy for them to stop their own schedule. Even when bitcoin price has some short term turbulence for them; they look at long term goals. That's why they are not very price sensitive in very short term time. But we observed the tariff did have a kind of impact on their cost structure that increased their mining cost. That means some of the miners, especially the smaller ones, even they are sitting in United States with consistent policy advantage. They could still withdraw from bitcoin mining to other activities. They may want to change their miners purchase plan in quarter four. So I should say US customers are most important customers for us and we observed their worries in short term. But we also respect their long term strategic goals and we try our best to support their strategic goals to get realized. So that's something we do together with them.
Kevin Cassidy - (00:52:40)
Yeah.
Ng - (00:52:40)
And also I think for looking at this year especially for the the market initial expected is the demand will flow rapidly into North America. However, changes in tariff policy led to
UNKNOWN - (00:52:59)
A significant.
Ng - (00:53:01)
Contraction in North America demand from late Q1 to Q Q2 and at that time I think everyone is very nervous. But Asia demand ramped up quickly and partly offset the weakness in North America and in Q3 and Q4 North America customers showed very strong resilience. Together we adapted to the new trade evacuation and the demand there has recovered quickly. Since data Q3 in effect for the potential already delivered in Q4 North America has begun has again accounted for more than 50%. So you know bitcoin price volatility is constant. Sharp moves over a few days or weeks do cause some customers, especially small customers to pause and receive. But over multi year time frames I think the impact is underlying. Demand trend is limited and I highly disagree with run your business by counting numbers day by day. So this is my personal opinion. Thank you.
Kevin Cassidy - (00:54:34)
Okay, thank you very much.
OPERATOR - (00:54:37)
Thank you for the question. Thank you.
Michael Donovan - (00:54:41)
Our next question comes from the line of Michael Donovan from Compass Point. Please go ahead. Thank you. Operator. Hi. And G and James. So how much inventory do you have left for the A15 series and then for Q4 2025 guidance? What mix do you expect between A15. Orders and pre orders for A16s?
James - Chief Financial Officer - (00:55:11)
Thank you for the question, Michael. I think our inventory in the end of Q3 2025, it's like $200 million including some of the raw materials, like wafers, like other components. And it mainly reflects the strong demand in Q4 2025. And you have already known we got the big order around 50,000 units to United States. So we have to prepare the inventory. Other than that, if we digest the inventory in Q4 2025, I don't think our inventory level will be that high. In Q1 2026 we will see a lower inventory level for a 15 and that's because we expecting the uncertainties of the market Demand in Q1 2026 and for a 16. I think it's mainly like Q3 2025 to be the mass delivery. I think the early delivery could be late quarter two. But in the transition we will continue to produce a 15 and make it better and better. I think that's the plan. Did I answer your question, Michael? No, you did, James. I appreciate that. I guess for my next question, can.
Michael Donovan - (00:56:49)
You expand a bit more on the pilot projects that you have? The 2.5 megawatts in Alberta, Canada and. 4.5 megawatts in Japan.
James - Chief Financial Officer - (00:57:00)
What are the growth opportunities in those two countries? Yeah, I think for we are running several similar pilot projects globally. I think this includes Japan, Canada, US and as well as some small project is ongoing in Europe and Asia, other Asia countries. Since these are pilots, our primary goal is to validate the technical approach and business model rather than maximum early stage financial returns. Yes, it's thanks to the use of stranded gas and energy. The power cost for these pilot projects is relatively low and the project-level gross margin are decent but you know like most mining operations meaningful economic benefits ultimately require scale. Yeah but based on the current results we believe these pilots all have the potential for scale up. This is very important to remember that power and gas infrastructure are very very traditional long cycle industries. Building trust and proving out a new model take takes time and patience. Our strategy is to run the pilots in a stable way cement the parts and ships and then we can store in the larger megawatt levels at the right time. For example the Canada strand gas product. There's a very highly possibilities to scale up to 20 megawatts in the middle of next year and also we can do more like I just mentioned the AI ready mining site mining farms in US with our partner rock serve. So yeah so I think still there's Please give us some time.
Andrew - (00:59:49)
Thank you Andrew and James. Thank you Michael. One moment for the last question.
OPERATOR - (01:00:03)
Our last question comes from the line of Kevin Dede of hcw.
Kevin Dede - (01:00:08)
Please go ahead Gentlemen. Thanks very much for having me on the call. Appreciate it. MG. I'm wondering about your self mining objectives. Can you refresh us on where you plan to take self mining? In particular North America which remains the largest contributor of your exahash. We're hearing that power tariff rates have increased there and we're wondering how you might rethink hash deployment.
Ng - (01:00:43)
Okay, thank you. And I think for our strategy. You know now in short term there's some pullback in bitcoin price and many people are asking the the question about our strategy of self mining. Yeah, I think in the near term over the maybe over a few next few months our attention will be on delivering large manual orders and which does slow, does slow the pace at which we add our self mining hash rate. Please remember there's still other customers we cannot lost our long term partners at this time. So we because of the lack of machines. At the same time we are actively developing more power resources including potential greenfield sites. These projects have longer construction cycles but relatively controllable cash outlays and they offer better long term value and operation flexibility. The gas to compute pilots in Canada with Reel Energy and the 20 megawatts data center projects in Texas with Soluna is only examples for what we see in the market. I think this is indeed more attractively priced mining assets. Now the pullback for bitcoin price gave us benefits to to get more energy resources especially in US Yeah so I think particularly projects with solid resources but short term funding pressure. So this offers us better entry points. We are continuously screening special and strict return and risk control and we aim to expand our self mining footprint in more prudent value attractive way. So yeah, so in short I think we are still keeping the expansion in us and we are moving to the more fundamental sites like the size, like the energy infrastructure and long term. Yeah and I think the big order and bitcoin pullback give us some time to redirect our. Direction to to find a more better way to expansion in us. Thank you.
Kevin Dede - (01:04:15)
James. I was wondering if you could offer a little more color on the 56 million wafer purchase and the 90 million in processing. Would that include pretty much everything that you need for the 15 and. 16. XP at least as you see orders initially. And. How much of it do you think translates to the Avalon home series?
James - Chief Financial Officer - (01:04:45)
Well Kevin, I don't think 56 million is all the wafer supply we can get for quarter one. It's actually some payments happen to be in the face of payments just in quarter three. So the 56 million is some prepayments and also some, you know, some close payments for the previous contracts. And I think in quarter four we'll pay more. It's just a kind of pacing difference. And for the home series I think currently wintertime we observed the demand from North America is actually getting stronger compared to quarter three and quarter two. So it seems like we will allocate more chips to home series. But of course we don't want to generate a lot of inventory. We will still produced according to the orders but to be very honest currently we have already noticed the home series will occupy higher percentage in quarter four and while the total revenue is so big so we are expecting the sales for quarter four of home series and actually a lot of buyers, a lot of consumers, they posted in their social media talking about Avalon Q they like it because it's quiet and it can generate bitcoins and you know, using the same kind of energy they in the past they buy a heater can do. So actually we can feel the passion from the consumers asking more for the supply side. That's why when we do allocate the chips I think internally we have some discussions and sometimes even very fierce competition between the consumer sector and the industrial sector. But of course Ng will try his best to balance different product lines and and different categories, try to satisfy most of the customers and consumers.
Ng - (01:07:17)
And also you know currently the macro environment is indeed very complex and changing very fast and especially for the semiconductor sector, you know like the DRAM prices is maybe doubled in the past few months. It's only, you know, it indicates that how the types of the global capacity for the semiconductor industry. So currently I think we have, you know, the demand of the vast chip growth especially for the AI-related applications and many other stuff. The foundry capacity today is very tightened and also the price is trending up significantly. I think this could impact both our, our manufacturing cost and mining capex and this. But this is influenced the whole industry, not only us. That said, well, we cannot share the exact figures but we have already have secured a meaningful waiver allocation for next year at favorable pricing and payment terms thanks to our strong relationships with our key suppliers. The volume is built on a very cautious number. But this will, I think this will definitely give us a good cost position heading into 2026. Yeah, this is my concern.
Kevin Dede - (01:09:22)
James, you didn't touch on the 90 million processing. Can you just give us a feel. For that and what the implications are for future cash use? 90 million? I think it says too much. I think it's. You mean that 72 million we raised from the strategic investors and also 7.8 million from at-the-market (ATM) program. I think putting this together is like 80 million. Yeah, okay. No, I thought that when you were discussing cash use in the third quarter you mentioned 90 million. I apologize, I probably have the number. Wrong but. Yeah, you mean the operational and the supply chain together, the expenses. Right.
James - Chief Financial Officer - (01:10:21)
Okay. I think that yeah, that outflow is for some payments of the, you know, supply chain like components, like all kinds of production and logistics to ship the components from here and there. You know a lot of things including some of the expenses related to that. I think that's a major part of the supply chain expenses. And also I think there is the, you know, R&D GNA and also sales and marketing fees inside this. I think the run rate is still like 28 to 29 million. Even the P&L shows it's like 40 million. But that includes a lot of non cash items like share related salaries but the rest goes to like 10, 28 to 29 million for the normal operation. And also we have you know, expenses related to the operation like travel like marketing especially for the consumer product. We started to have some marketing try in quarter three but not much expenses. But that is something we try to do in the transition from a pure machine company to a kind of operational company with energy and also with two consumer product. We will also increase our marketing expenses in future. I don't know if I answer your question.
Kevin Dede - (01:12:13)
Yeah, just one more little nuance. I'm just wondering if those payments include prepayments for supply chains, securing supply chain components through, you know, through the December quarter and into the March quarter?
James - Chief Financial Officer - (01:12:35)
That's a wonderful question, Kevin. Usually we only do prepayment for wafer most of the components. We usually get the components first and then we pay them a little bit later in different kind of terms. For example, like 15 days, 30 days, something like that. It's not usually not advanced payment.
Kevin Dede - (01:13:05)
Well, congratulations on that 50,000 unit order. Congratulations on the sharp increase in revenue and gross margin. Thank you very much for taking my questions. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you.
OPERATOR - (01:13:20)
Thank you for the question. As there are no further questions now, I'd like to turn the call back over to the company for any closing remarks.
Ng - (01:13:30)
Thank you once again for joining us today. If you have further questions, please feel free to reach out to us. And we look forward to speaking with you throughout the quarter. Thanks.
OPERATOR - (01:13:44)
Thank you. That does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for everyone for attending. You may now disconnect.
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