Ooma Inc. posts Q2 revenue of $66.4 million and record adjusted EBITDA, raising full-year guidance as business growth accelerates.

OPERATOR - (00:01:34)

Hello and welcome to Ooma Inc.'s second quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation there will be a question and answer session. To ask the question during the session you will need to press on your telephone. You would then hear automated message advising your hand is raised to withdraw your question. Please press star one one again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Matt. You may begin.

Matt - (00:02:05)

Thank you.

Tawanda - (00:02:05)

Good day everyone and welcome to

Matt Robinson - Director of IR and Corporate Development - (00:02:07)

The fiscal second quarter 2026 earnings call of Ooma Inc. My name is Matt Robinson. Ooma is Director of IR and Corporate Development. On the call with me today are Ooma CEO Eric Stang and CFO Shig Hamamatsu. After the market closed today, Ooma issued its fiscal second quarter 2026 earnings press release. This release is also available on the company's website, Ooma.com this call is being webcast live and is accessible from a link on the Events and Presentations page of the Investor Relations section of our website. This link will be active for replay of this call for one year. During today's presentation, our executives will make forward looking statements with in the meaning of the Federal securities laws, forward looking statements generally relate to future events or future financial or operating performance. Our expectations and beliefs regarding these matters may not materialize and actual results are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risks include those set forth in the press release we issued earlier today and those risks more fully described in our filings with the securities and Exchange Commission. The forward looking statements in this presentation are based on information available to us as of the date hereof and we disclaim any obligation to update any forward looking statements except as required by law. Please note that other than revenue or as otherwise stated, the financial measures to be disclosed on this call will be on a non GAAP basis. The non GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A discussion of why we present non GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures discussed in this call to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures as included in our earnings press release which is available on our website. On this call we will give guidance for third quarter and full year fiscal 2026 on a non GAAP basis. Also, in addition to our press release and 8-K filing, the overview page and Events and Presentations page in the Investors section of our website as well as the quarterly Results page of the Financial Information section of our website include links to information about cost and expenses not included in our non GAAP values and key metrics of our core subscription businesses. These are titled Supplemental Financial Disclosure 1 and Supplemental Financial Disclosure 2. Additionally, our investor presentation slides include GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation that also provides resolution of GAAP expenses that are excluded from non GAAP metrics. Now I will hand the call over to Ooma CEO Eric Stang.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:04:33)

Thank you Matt Hi everyone. Welcome to Ooma's second quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. Thank you for joining us. We're pleased to report strong Q2 financial results and to discuss the momentum we have going into the second half of our fiscal year. Financially, we grew our revenue in Q2 to 66.4 million while also setting some bottom line records. In Q2 we achieved record non-GAAP net income of 6.5 million and record adjusted EBITDA of 7.2 million. GAAP net income was 1.3 million and cash flow from operations was 6.4 million. Currently we are at 11% adjusted EBITDA as a percent of revenue, our highest to date and now already at the low end of our midterm target range model of 11% to 14%. I believe these results show the power of our business to grow top line revenue while also driving improved bottom line profitability. Regarding our revenue from business users, our metrics strengthened in Q2 user growth net of churn, average revenue per user, annual exit recurring revenue and the take rate of our Pro and Pro plus higher tier offerings were all up both sequentially and year over year. We believe we executed well to achieve these results. Regarding our communications solutions for smaller sized businesses, we will be strengthening our ability to provide a double play offering by introducing the Connect 5000 later this quarter. Connect 5000 is a 5G Internet solution that incorporates Wi-Fi and prioritizes voice traffic over the connection sold with Ooma Office. It will allow us to offer a more complete solution for our customers. It also affords us the opportunity to increase our revenue and have a deeper relationship with our customers in Q3. We will also continue our efforts to develop new AI driven features for smaller sized businesses. We believe AI features need to be. Not only powerful but also very easy to use and and extremely low cost. We have already developed AI applications that we use internally and are learning from them as we craft new features for our customers. New AI features along with more advanced contact center functionality and integrations with other vertical solutions will allow us to serve slightly larger sized businesses and we are already beginning to see some traction in that regard. I'm pleased to report that AirDial ramped well in Q2. We more than doubled new bookings year over year and secured our largest customer win to date with a large national retailer. We've started the rollout with this retailer and anticipate serving over 3,000 locations. We also closed several other significantly sized customers who placed initial orders. As is our goal every quarter. We expanded the number of partners who will resell AirDial and signed three new partner resellers in the quarter. We believe two of these new partners have experience selling competitive solutions and will be able to ramp relatively quickly with AirDial. In total we are now approaching 35 airdial partner resellers. Currently, real estate and REITs, colleges and universities, health care and senior living, state and local government and hospitality are very active segments for AirDial and in general, we believe the POTS replacement market is expanding as more businesses come to realize the need to act. We believe AirDial is the leading solution in the market today and we intend to make it even stronger in the future by introducing further enhancements to our AirDial Remote Device management portal and by. Driving down the cost of AirDial. Hardware for 2600Hz our wholesale UCaaS, CPaaS and contact center platform. We announced in Q2 the launch of new mobile and desktop applications. More recently we also introduced video meetings and team chat. We signed one new customer in Q2 and expanded with several existing customers. Looking forward, we see continued sales momentum and remain focused on extending Ooma's IP to the 2600Hz platform. On the residential front, we had a. Stronger quarter for new customer acquisition and experienced slightly reduced churn compared to Q1 subscription and services. Revenue, though down year over year, was up slightly. Sequentially, Retail and Direct are our main sales channels, but we also sell to Internet service providers and receive customer referrals from T-Mobile. Currently we have approximately 85 ISPs selling or referring Telo and we signed seven new ISPs in Q2. While ISP driven users make up just. A small percentage of our Telo user. Base today, we believe sales to ISPs represent additional opportunity for growth. As we go into the second half. Of our fiscal year. Our focus is on capitalizing fully on AirDial, continuing to enhance Ooma Office to drive higher ARPU and to expand to larger customers, and positioning 2600Hz as the best wholesale platform. We hope to expand our list of Airdial partners and see our existing partners ramp sales significantly. Most of all, we are focused on executing well. We believe we have built outstanding solutions and have set goals to drive both growth and improved profitability going forward. Now, before I turn it over to shig, I would also like to mention that this past July marked 10 years. Since Ooma became a public company. We are proud of this milestone. Since we went public company, we have more than tripled our revenue, dramatically improved our bottom line shifted to serving primarily business customers and reinvented ourselves to serve new markets. I'm proud of our accomplishments and excited as I look forward since I believe Ooma has never been stronger than it is today. I'll now turn over the call to Shig, our CFO to discuss our results and outlook in more detail and then return with some closing remarks.

Shig Hamamatsu - Chief Financial Officer - (00:11:20)

Thank you Eric and good afternoon everyone. I'm going to review our second quarter financial results and then provide our outlook for the third quarter and fourth fiscal year 2026. Our second quarter revenue was $66.4 million above our guidance range and was up 3.5% year over year, driven by the growth of uma business, including AirDial. In Q2 business, subscription and services revenue accounted for 62% of total subscription services revenue as compared to 60% in the prior quarter. Q2 product and other revenue came in at $5.2 million and was up 15% year over year due to growth in airdial installations. On the profitability front, Q2 non GAAP net income was $6.5 million above our guidance range of 5.6 to $5.9 million and grew 59% year over year, primarily driven by our improving operating leverage. Q2 non GAAP net income this year also included a small amount of tax benefit due to the recent changes in the US tax law. Now some details on our Q2 revenue. Business subscription and services revenue grew 6% year over year in Q2, driven by user growth and upward growth. On the residential side, subscription and services revenue was down 2% year over year. For the second quarter, total subscription and services revenue was $61.1 million, or 92% of total revenue, as compared to $59.6 million, or 93% of total revenue in the prior quarter. Now some details on our key customer metrics. We ended the second quarter with 1,230,000 core users, up from 1,225,000 core users at the end of the first quarter. At the end of the second quarter, we had 508,000 business users, or 41% of our total core users, an increase of 9,000 from Q1. Our blended average monthly subscription and services revenue per core user or ARPU increased 4% year over year to $15.68 driven by an increasing mix of business users including Higher ARPU, Office Pro and ProPlus users. During the second quarter we continue to see a healthy Office Pro and Proplus take rate with 61% of new office users opting for these higher tier services which was up from 58% in the prior year quarter. Overall, 37% of OomaOffice users have now subscribed to these higher tier services. Our annual exit recurring revenue was $240 million, up 3% year over year. Our net data subscription retention rate for the quarter was 100% as compared to 99% in the first quarter. Now some details on our gross margin. Our subscription and services gross margin for the second quarter was 71.3% as compared to 72% in the prior year. Product and other gross margin for the second quarter was negative 47% as compared to negative 69% for the same period last year. The year over year improvement in product and other gross margin was primarily due to a fully consuming higher cost components we had procured during the pandemic in the first half of the last fiscal year. On an overall basis, the total gross margin for Q2 was 62% as compared to 62% in the prior quarter. The flat overall Gross margin in Q2 this year reflects a heavier mix of product revenue versus prior year due to an increase in airdown installations which offset the improvement in product gross margin. And now some details on operating expenses. Total operating expenses for the second quarter were $35.1 million and down million dollars year over year. Sales and marketing expenses for the second quarter were $18 million or 27% of total revenue, up 2% year over year, primarily driven by higher marketing and channel development activity for airdial and 2600 Hz. Research and development expenses were $11.5 million or 17% of total revenue, down 6% on a year over year basis, primarily driven by headcount management. As we continue to focus on R and D efficiency and operating leverage. GNA expenses were $5.6 million or 8% of total revenue for the second quarter compared to $5.4 million for the prior year quarter. The year over year increase in GNA expense was primarily due to an increase in personnel related costs. Non GAAP net income for the second quarter was $6.5 million or diluted earnings per share of $0.23 as compared to $0.15 in the prior quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a record $7.2 million or 11% of total revenue and grew 27% over the prior quarter. We ended the quarter with total cash and investments of $19.6 million. In Q2 we generated $6.4 million of operating cash flow and 5 million of free cash flow. On a 12 month basis we generated $26 million of operating cash flow and $20 million of free cash flow. With strong free cash flow generation, we spent a total of $14.5 million over the last four quarters including $4.5 million in Q2 to buy back stock through a combination of open market repurchase and RSU net share settlement. On the headcount front, we ended a quarter with 1195 employees and contractors. Now I will provide guidance for the third quarter and full fiscal year 2026. Our guidance is on a non GAAP basis and it has been adjusted for expenses and such as stock based compensation and amortization of intangibles. We expect total revenue for the third quarter of fiscal 26 to be in the range of 67.2 million to $67.9 million, which includes 5.7 to $6.2 million of product revenue. We expect the third quarter non GAAP net income to be in the range of 6 million to $6.4 million. Non GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be between 22 to $0.23. We have assumed 27.9 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the third quarter. For full fiscal year 26, we expect total revenue to be in the range of 267 million to $270 million, which is unchanged from our prior guidance. The full year fiscal 26 revenue guidance assumes business subscription and services revenue growth rate of 5 to 6% over fiscal 25 while residential subscription revenue to decline 1 to 2%. In terms of revenue mix for the year, we expect 91 to 92% of total revenue to come from subscription and services revenue and the remainder from products and other revenue. In terms of full year fiscal 26 non GAAP net income we are raising the guidance and now expect it to be in the range of $24.5 million to $25 million. Updated non GAAP net income guidance for fiscal 26 includes the impact of approximately $500,000 of tariffs which is our current best estimate. Based on this guidance range, we estimate our adjusted EBITDA for fiscal 26 to 20 be in the range of 28.5 million to $29 million. We expect the non GAAP diluted EPS for fiscal 26 to be in the range of 87 to $0.89. We have assumed approximately 28.2 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding for fiscal 26. In summary, we are pleased with our solid results for the second quarter with a record adjusted EBITDA of 7.2 million which grew 27% year over year and improve adjusted EBITDA margin to 11%. Free cash flow remains robust with $20 million generated for the past 12 months along with $14.5 million of share repurchase for the same period. We're excited about growth opportunities in front of us and remain focused on executing to our long term strategy to achieve profitable growth. I'll now pass it back to Eric for some closing remarks.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:21:01)

Eric thanks Jake. Excuse me. I'm pleased to say we now have a strong first half of our fiscal year behind us and the momentum that goes with that. We're encouraged by our recent growth with AirDial and by the scope of market opportunity we see across our business. Our focus is on executing well, capturing. The opportunities before us and in driving. Improved top and bottom line results. Thank you everyone. We'll now take questions.

OPERATOR - (00:21:30)

Thank you ladies and gentlemen. As a reminder to ask the question, please press Star one one on your telephone then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press Star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Josh Nichols with B. Riley. Your line is open.

Josh Nichols - Equity Analyst - (00:21:54)

Yeah, thanks for taking my question. Good to see the improvement particularly in the bottom line and company buying back some stock. I know you mentioned airdial bookings more than doubled with the second half hardware ramp. I presume a lot of that's related to AirDial as well. Is it Airdial contributing any meaningful percentage to ARR at this point or at what point do you think you'd start giving a little bit more granularity on the breakout as that continues to build?

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:22:27)

Yeah, I think yes, AirDial is contributing to the growth of ARR and also the ARR as a whole, starting to contribute meaningfully. And if we also look at from the perspective of user ads on the business side which increased by 9,000 quarter by quarter. Good chunk of that came from Air Dial. And so from these kind of data points we think that especially if you look at quarter by quarter basis, even on an annual basis, AirDial is starting to contribute more to the ARR itself and also having double the Booking year over year as you heard it, Josh, that certainly helps accelerate that growth further into the second half.

Josh Nichols - Equity Analyst - (00:23:22)

Thanks. And then just to update, I mean you've continued to add new partners on the air dial front as well too. When you look, I think in one Q you launched with a very large market cap telecom company. You have a aggregator, CLEC and previously announced like ilec. Any updates, Eric, that you could give us on just like how that ramps up is progressing since like the last quarter call update.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:23:50)

Thanks. Yeah. Hi Josh. You know, it's pretty exciting to have nearly 35 partners who are reselling AirDial. AirDial in the marketplace. I think that a pretty strong vote. Of the strength of our solution as well. Two of the resellers we brought on or signed, I should say this last. Quarter are moving from a competitor's product to ours, which is also quite exciting. These resellers do take time to ramp. We announced a very important relationship with. Comcast early this year. We have seen orders now from Comcast. But still it's slowly moving forward as Comcast works deals and trains its sales teams. I think that the back half of this year we could see acceleration there. T Mobile has never been stronger with us on Airdial. They are doing a fantastic job. We are also seeing the CLEC that we announced pretty much this time last year finally start to ramp with Airdial. In a meaningful way. So. And that's just three of the close to 35 resellers we have. I feel well placed with. I feel we're well placed with the range of companies we're working with and I think all of them have. Plans to grow as we go forward. Our goal is to add a couple. Every quarter and. My expectation this time is that we'll have more that we're adding in Q3 and a couple of. Them could be particularly exciting as well. So more to come. But yeah, that's working well for us.

Josh Nichols - Equity Analyst - (00:25:50)

Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:25:53)

Thanks, Josh.

OPERATOR - (00:25:54)

Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Eric Matanuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Eric Matanuzzi - (00:26:04)

My congratulations as well on the improving profitability of the business. I wanted to talk about where you're pointing. That incremental cash flow, obviously in Q2 with the, what was it, $4.5 million or so on the share repurchase program. Is that to say that we're not actively pursuing any M&A opportunities or is it just to say that your own shares are the better bargain in the market with that cash flow?

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:26:34)

You know, it really doesn't say either one of those. We do feel some share buybacks at this current share price in the market are sensible for us. So we are have started doing that as of about nine or 12 months ago. But we are always looking for MA. Opportunities that fit our criteria and our criteria are fairly specific. We don't want to overpay. We're looking for a strategic way to acquire users more than technology. And we're looking for businesses that are small enough in size that they can fit into what we're doing without upsetting our major plans as a company. There are opportunities out there. From time to time we have discussions and we would like to do more, almost call them tuck ins like that as we go forward.

Eric Matanuzzi - (00:27:32)

Okay. And then the growth on the business side, you've got two quarters in a row here of 6% growth in the core subscription service growth rate. On the business side, you're talking about 5 to 6% for the year. Is that just conservatism or are we looking at maybe some incremental churn that we need to model for in the back half?

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:27:57)

Yeah, it's. Hey Eric.

Shig Hamamatsu - Chief Financial Officer - (00:27:58)

So it's not so much about incremental churn, but I think, you know, you may notice that we've given a relatively wide range for Q3 on revenue and also still for the whole year. I think the variability there is just the timing of the AirDial installation going into second half. Now we more than double the booking and we continue to ramp up the bookings going to second half. Sometimes the installation timing because of customer timing on their end, not so much about our readiness install plays into it. So there's a little bit of conservatism from that perspective, but it's not about the churn that we're expecting.

Eric Matanuzzi - (00:28:44)

Got it. Thanks for taking my questions.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:28:47)

Thank you. No, thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:28:49)

Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from a line of Pat Wall Ravens with citizens. Your line is open.

Kincaid - (00:28:59)

Hey team, this is Kincaid on for Pat. Thanks for taking the question. Super excited to hear about that new largest retail customer that you guys landed. I'd love to hear more about how that deal came about. What was the differentiator, what let you win that? And are we going to start seeing that in the back half of the year or what's the timeline there?

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:29:19)

Yeah, it's an exciting win for us. This is a very large national retailer. This is a company we've talked to. For a long time. They went through a number of trials with our solution. We actually thought they might. Sign up. In Q1 that moved into Q2. This is a customer we've also won with our partner, T Mobile, which we're very excited about as well. They played a key role in winning this deal too. We've done a limited amount of installations with them so far and we are. Anticipating installations through the back half of this year. I don't know how fast it will move at this point, but yeah, a very big validating win and frankly we hope the first of many more. I mean, there are large business opportunities in the market like this and with the strength of the partners we have and the increased focus on possibly placement by larger businesses, now we have a whole range of sizes of opportunity in our pipeline and we're obviously working all of that. But yeah, a really nice win. I wish I could say who it was, I can't. But. It came together after a lot. Of validation on their part and a. Lot of. Testing of our solution.

Kincaid - (00:30:59)

Spectacular. If you can give me a little. Color on how much, like you said, 3,000 locations. How much revenue are you expecting to drive per location with these installations?

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:31:12)

We can't answer that for a customer, but we've given guidance to you on what to model for air dial ARPU and that's around $25 a line per month. And that's a blend of across our go to market channels and the different pricing we have in them. And I think that's a reasonable number to use for Airdial going forward.

Kincaid - (00:31:42)

Thank you so much.

OPERATOR - (00:31:45)

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Harrigan with the Benchmark company. Your line is open.

Matthew Harrigan - (00:31:57)

Thank you. I know, touch of an afterthought compared to Air Dial, but can you talk a little bit about 2600 hertz and what kind of the organic growth rate there is? I know you introduced a number of new open APIs and I think when you did the deal, you know, there's some discussion of trying to get better monetization for Kazoo and I know it fits well within your business portfolio, but it necessarily doesn't get as much bandwidth as Aerodyle, perhaps. Understandably.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:32:31)

Thank you. Yeah, so 2600Hz is a wholesale platform and we sell it to companies that. Want to offer their own solutions in the market. And so our ARPU per user, if you look at it that way, is pretty low. But obviously we're not doing any of the rest of the business to get those users. We are. Working this year to bring. UMA IP onto the 2600 Hertz platform. And I made some important announcements about that actually in my opening script and comments. The reason for that is that the real strength of 2600 hertz is its. Flexibility and its API based design. But it doesn't have as strong a. Turnkey applications as we'd like it to have. And by bringing IP onto it, we are making it a very good turnkey solution as well. For smaller customers in the market, that's important for the larger customers in the. Market, they really care about the flexibility. And what they can do with it. And you know, our largest win to date on that platform was ServiceTitan, who uses in particular 2600 Hz contact center. Capability and was able to build a. Number of AI based applications working with our platform to really create something bespoke to their needs. That's powerful. And our vision for 2600 Hertz is to win other large customers like that. Who will. Use the platform in that way. I would say this year, by the end of the year we will have. Also filled out the boxes in terms. Of the turnkey solutions. And that will put us in a. Stronger position for next year for going after the smaller players who care more about that. I think we've added about a handful. Of customers so far this year onto the platform. But it's also a sale where once you win a customer, it can take. Many months to have them move their users over or grow with the platform. So we view it more as upside. Opportunity next year than this year. This year we are really rounding out the solution. We'll continue to give guidance every quarter on it. And we're super excited for the long term because the traditional platforms in use out there today, BroadSoft, BroadWorks, MetaSwitch, others, they were built a long time ago. They don't have all the modern features that a platform like 2600Hz can enable. And so we feel there's real opportunity over the next several years to be the platform in the future.

Matthew Harrigan - (00:35:31)

And we know that you have enough on your hands with Air Dial in North America, but to the extent that you're getting pull demand from Europe, I mean, that's really a testament to the efficacy of the product relative to limited alternatives. Are you seeing more of that again? I know that's not a priority, but. I was just curious.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:35:51)

So today Air Dial's being sold in. North America, US and Canada. We would move to other parts of. The world if or when we have. A large carrier or other entity that. Can be a lead customer in that market. And we don't have any announcements in that regard today, but that's how we would evolve with it now if we. Are able to. Achieve a customer like that. We already have OOMA services operating in 32 countries around the world as part. Of our IWG Regis. Customer relationships. So we already have a pretty good head start towards enabling a service like Aired I in other countries. But honestly I don't want to make too much of this because our primary focus still is North America because we just see so much opportunity here.

Matthew Harrigan - (00:36:55)

Great. Thanks Eric. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:36:58)

Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Alinda Lee with Will Blair. Your line is open. Perfect.

Alinda Lee - (00:37:08)

Thank you. Congrats on a solid quarter and Also on the 10 year anniversary, quick question here. NRR was 100%. Can you give us more color in terms of what drove the 1 point uptick there and what should we expect NRR to be going forward?

Shig Hamamatsu - Chief Financial Officer - (00:37:27)

Yes, I think the biggest contributor just overall was we had a better churn quarter over last. And so obviously last quarter we saw the impact of the, you know what we think is last of the large IWG churn. We didn't have that this quarter. And just looking across the other service lines, I think we had a generally speaking the improved churn quarter. So I think that's the biggest contributor to the better retention rate was the second part of the question. Alinda. Sorry I missed it.

Alinda Lee - (00:38:04)

Yeah, no worries. The second part was what should we expect NRR to be going forward?

Shig Hamamatsu - Chief Financial Officer - (00:38:09)

Yeah, I think, you know we've been Fairly steady between 99 to 100%, sometimes rounds up, sometimes round down kind of a situation. So I think that's a good zone to be in. And I think we that that's what we think was going to be.

Alinda Lee - (00:38:25)

Cool. And another question is top line guidance was reiterated but net income guidance is raised again by around 7.6% at the midpoint. So what are the efficiencies that you are looking to implement to achieve the bottom line guidance? I know you mentioned also the tax benefit that is helping with the bottom line. Any other efficiencies that we should be aware of?

Shig Hamamatsu - Chief Financial Officer - (00:38:49)

Yeah, just to kind of get the tax money out there. So part of the raise for net income, I would say 7 to 100,000 of the raise was related to tax law change that I talked about. It's just that our estimate for tax payment is much lower due to the one big beautiful bill that we already heard about. But our remainder, which is still a meaningful portion of the raise is really seeing the R and D Efficiency, efficiency. That's a big part because we more or less see flat R and D or maybe slightly less R and D going into second half. So, you know, as we said going into this year we want to see the R and D leverage that we talked about. So I think that's the biggest driver in addition to the tax benefit. But also, you know, we've been very prudent about the sales and marketing expense. It's hovering around 27% of revenue. And as we said before, we are very disciplined about customer acquisition cost and making sure that we're putting into the right channel to realize best ROI we can achieve. So both the sales and market efficiency, the R and D leverage and the tax, those are three pieces.

Alinda Lee - (00:40:15)

That's really helpful. Thank you. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:40:18)

As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that's Star One one to ask the question. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Eliana Bryant Kitzlinger with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is open.

Kevin - (00:40:35)

Hi, thanks. This is Kevin for Brian. Can you give us a sense on the new business line trends you're seeing with your largest UCAAS customer and should we expect meaningful growth over the next 12 to 18 months?

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:40:50)

If you're referring to IWG Regis, we have rolled out to the countries we're. Planning to roll out to and so. I think we expect them to be. Essentially stable as we look forward in our outlook.

Kevin - (00:41:11)

Great. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:41:14)

Thank you ladies and gentlemen. I am showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Eric for closing remarks.

Eric Stang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:41:25)

Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining us today. You know, it's interesting to put our results in a little bit of longer term perspective. I think it was a couple years. Ago we did mid teens, upper teens, EBITDA. I think last year we did 23 million. We've guided this year for around 29 sh, if I'm correct and we intend. To drive EBITDA higher next year. I think we have built a business. That has the potential to be highly profitable and our solutions are well developed. And they're leading in the market. And so as we grow, we can get leverage on a lot of our spending. So it is our plan to continue. To drive both growth and bottom line performance. And we feel that's the combination of. Those two is what's going to build the most valuable company. As we look forward, we appreciate your time today. We had a strong first half of the year and as I said in my opening comments, we're glad to have that momentum as we go into the. Second half of the year. Thank you, everyone.

OPERATOR - (00:42:39)

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.