
Amerisafe reports 20.5% return on equity and announces special dividend, reflecting ongoing confidence in growth strategy and financial stability.
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Summary
- AMERISAFE reported a healthy 20.5% return on average equity and a 90.6% combined ratio for Q3 2025, with voluntary premiums growing by 10.6% and gross premiums by 7.2% year-over-year.
- The company declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.39 per share and a $1 special dividend, reflecting confidence in long-term growth and disciplined capital management.
- Net income for Q3 2025 was $13.8 million, or $0.72 per diluted share, slightly down from $14.3 million in the previous year, with net investment income decreasing 12.3% due to reduced average investable assets.
- AMERISAFE maintained a strong capital position with a book value per share increase to $14.47, despite a decrease in total investments and cash equivalents.
- The management reiterated strategic focus on disciplined underwriting and market penetration without expanding into new geographies or class codes, highlighting strong policy retention and successful risk management.
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OPERATOR - (00:00:45)
Good day and welcome to the AMERISAFE third quarter 2025 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time. I'd like to turn the conference over to Kathryn Shirley, please proceed.
Kathryn Shirley - (00:00:58)
Thank you Operator and good morning everyone. Welcome to the Amerisafe 2025 third quarter investor call. If you have not received the earnings release, it is available on our website@amerisafe.com this call is being recorded. A replay of today's call will be available. Details on how to access the replay are in the earnings release. During this call we will be making forward looking statements intended to fall within the safe harbor provided under the securities laws. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements if the underlying assumptions prove to be incorrect or as the result of risks, uncertainties and other factors, including factors discussed in the earnings release, in the comments made during today's call and in the risk factors section of our Form 10K, Form 10-Qs and other reports and filings with the securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward looking statement. I will now turn the call over to Janelle Frost, AMERISAFE's President and CEO.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:02:12)
Thank you Kathryn and good morning. We are pleased that our growth strategy in this competitive market is yielding a healthy 20.5% return on average equity and a 90.6% combined ratio for the quarter. Our continued success in the market reflects the strength of the Amerisafe value proposition. At our core, we are a profitable underwriter focused on knowing our risks, pricing them appropriately and servicing our policyholders and their workers. In doing so, we are a better carrier for our agents and create long term value for our shareholders. This is our sixth consecutive quarter of top line growth. Voluntary premiums on policies written in the quarter grew 10.6% combined with audit premiums. Our gross premiums written grew 7.2% and net earned grew 6.2% over the third quarter of 2024. We are seeing the compound benefits of disciplined underwriting, robust new business production and strong renewal performance. Turning to losses, our accident year loss ratio was in line with the prior year end quarter at 71%. Frequency remains at historically low levels while severity continues to notch higher on a year over year basis. We are confident that our claims handling practices coupled with upfront risk selection remain consistent and disciplined in the current environment. Thus, the company experienced 8.9 million of favorable reserve development on prior accident years Primarily accident years 2020 and prior. In addition to announcing the quarterly results, we also announced the Board of Directors declared both a regular quarterly dividend of $0.39 per share and a $1 special dividend payable on December 12, 2025 to shareholders, a record as of December 5, 2025. The board takes a comprehensive approach when evaluating capital deployment, considering both the regular quarterly dividend share repurchases and any special dividend within the broader framework of Amerisafe's capital position, operating performance and future growth opportunities. This balanced strategy ensures that we continue to reward shareholders while maintaining the flexibility to invest in the business and support long term value creation. Our capital management philosophy remains consistent. Profitability drives capital and capital is deployed with discipline. We are proud of our track record. Over the past 13 years, Amerisafe has declared nearly $50 per share in total dividends, including $12.68 in regular dividends and $37.25 in special dividends per share. Along with managing capital, the continued investment we are making in our people and technology is reflected in our solid top line growth at industry leading returns delivering long term value to our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Andy to discuss the financials.
Andy - (00:05:21)
Thank you Janelle and good morning to everyone. For the third quarter of 2025, Amerisafe reported net income of 13.8 million or $0.72 per diluted share and operating net income of 10.6 million or $0.55 per diluted share. During the third quarter of 2024, net income was 14.3 million or $0.75 per diluted share and operating net income was 11.1 million or $0.58 per diluted share. Gross written premiums were 80.3 million in the quarter compared with 74.9 million in Q3 of 2024, increasing 7.2%. Audit premiums increased the top line by 2.5 million compared with full in the prior year quarter. Despite the audit premium headwinds, voluntary premium grew. Growth of 10.6% fueled by new business production and strong retention is driving top line growth. Our total underwriting and Other expenses were 22.1 million in the quarter compared with 21.3 million in the prior year quarter which resulted in an expense ratio of 31.1% compared with 31.7% in the prior year quarter. The expense ratio reflects ongoing investment in Amerisafe's growth as we see elevated opportunity in our target markets. Our effective tax rate was 21% compared to 19.5% in the prior year quarter. Turning to our investment portfolio, in the third quarter, net investment income decreased 12.3% to $6.6 million, driven by a decrease in average investable assets following the payment of the special dividend in the fourth quarter of 2024. At quarter end, we held approximately $817 million in investments, cash and cash equivalents compared to $899 million at September 30, 2024. The reinvestment rate environment remained fairly strong with some moderation. Compared to the second quarter of 2025. Yields on new investments exceeded portfolio roll off by 77 basis points, driving the portfolio tax equivalent book yield to 3.9% relatively flat versus the third quarter of 2024. The yield on cash held in money market funds ended the quarter at 4% compared to 4.8% at the end of the prior year quarter. The unrealized gain for the Equity securities was 4.1 million compared to 3.9 million in the prior year quarter. Both periods were driven by strength in the US Equity market. Our investment portfolio remains high quality, carrying an average AA minus credit rating with a duration of 4.3 years. The composition of the portfolio is 61% in municipal bonds, 21% in corporate bonds, 3% in US treasuries and agencies, 7% in equity securities and 8% in cash and other investments. Approximately 45% of the portfolio is classified as held to maturity, which maintains a net unrealized loss position of 7.6 million. As a reminder, these securities are carried at amortized cost and therefore unrealized gains and losses are not reflected in our reported book value. Our capital position is strong with a high quality balance sheet, solid loss reserve position and conservative investment portfolio. During the third quarter the company repurchased roughly 31,000 shares, an average cost of $43.72 per share totaling $1.3 million. And finally a couple of other topics. Book value per share increased to $14.47, up 7.1% year to date. Statutory surplus was 259 million compared to 235.1 million at year end 2024. Lastly, we will be filing our Form 10Q with the SEC later today, October 30, 2025 after the close of the market. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for the question and answer portion. Operator.
OPERATOR - (00:09:24)
Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please Signal by pressing STAR1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone. Please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. And our first question is going to come from Matt Carletti. Please go ahead.
Matt Carletti - (00:09:51)
Hey, thanks. Good morning.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:09:53)
Good morning, Matt.
Matt Carletti - (00:09:55)
Janelle, I was hoping maybe to start off. Obviously voluntary premium growth has been has been solid double digits for a couple quarters now, which is a great has been emerging trend. Could you talk a little bit about where you're seeing success, has been where that growth is coming from, if it's has been any particular areas, or maybe it's just more broad based and it's pretty evenly across has been all aspects of your business.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:10:22)
Thank you for noticing. And I'm also pleased to say it's more broad based. You know, we have grown policy count, you know, in the quarter over second quarter, we grew policy count roughly 2.7% on a year to year basis. It's more like 11% year over year for policy count. So we're growing policy count, which is very important. Our insured payrolls are expanding as well, which is also a positive. And particularly in this market, when you read all of the headlines about things that are happening in unemployment and wage growth expectations, our skilled labor jobs in our high hazard industries are faring pretty well. So that helps support premiums in terms of payroll growth. We're seeing still very strong retention on a renewal basis. For the quarter. Our renewal retention for the policies for which we offered renewal was 93.6%, a very healthy number. I think actually that was the same number we had prior year quarter. So even in this crazy competitive market that we're in, we're able to maintain those accounts that we want to maintain through a lot of collaborative effort from the Amerisafe employees. So I can't emphasize that enough. You know, we have a seasoned sales staff. The way we utilize our safety services as part of the risk selection process is truly a value add not only for our underwriters and helping our underwriters understand the risk and price the risk appropriately, but also a value add for our policyholders and their agents. The fact that that is an Amerisafe contact that they have and that builds relationships with those policyholders and with those agents. So it's critical to what we do and it's unique to Amerisafe. So I think that's huge on our part. And then I can't, I certainly can't not mention our claim family experience. You know, from a renewal retention standpoint, I truly believe the way we Handle claims benefits us from a renewals perspective. If you've had a claim and it's handled by an Amerisafe employee, we handle it I think the right way and we treat those injured workers well and that's meaningful to a policyholder. So all of those things together I think is really adding to the growth effort in terms of just the amount of collaboration that we're having. You know, we've really been focused on ease of doing business, speed to market and it's just compounding and bearing fruit now in those growth numbers. And I'll caveat that by saying all without. We're not adding, we haven't added class codes, we haven't added, we haven't expanded geographically. It's really market penetration and better serving, better working with our agents.
Matt Carletti - (00:13:14)
Great, thank you. And then if I kind of try to tie it one step further. So as I look at your business like I mean financially kind of earnings returns have been strong for many years now and really unchanged if you want to look at ROE or something like that. So really strong kind of where the business is. You talked a little bit about the special dividend at the outset of the. call and it is a little bit. Smaller than kind of some of the previous years. So would I be correct to kind of interpret that maybe an output of that is expression of your guys confidence in the kind of the durability of that growth or that growth going forward and that that's where you'd prefer to allocate capital versus giving it back. Those growth opportunities are there.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:13:59)
Well said, Mr. Carletti. That is exactly what you should infer into the dividend. I mean I'm excited about the $1 dividend by no question. But I think it definitely infers that we believe what we have going here in terms of our growth is not short lived. That you know, I believe it has longevity. And we've said since the very beginning when we started paying out the special dividend, part of the reason that we were returning that capital to shareholders is because we had internally made the decision it wasn't the right time to really pour that into organic growth because we wanted that growth to be profitable growth. So now we've had these quarters of top line growth and it's starting to flow through on the earnings. And so that dividend, we're using that capital and deploying that capital to for that organic growth.
Matt Carletti - (00:14:48)
Fantastic. I'm glad I put those puzzle pieces together. Okay, thanks for the color. Appreciate it.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:14:54)
Thank you, Matt.
OPERATOR - (00:14:57)
And once again, if you'd like to Ask a question. Please press Star one on your telephone keypad. And our next question is going to come from Marcus, from T.R.
Marcus - (00:15:15)
Janelle, or I'll say Andy, in the spirit of the question about the special dividend and the growth opportunities, how do you view your leverage now and how much flexibility do you have on the balance sheet? And this would be underwriting leverage.
Andy - (00:15:37)
It is going up, but it's at one. I mean, you know, from our standpoint, I don't think it's really changed. It's, you know, it's. I think it's increased a little bit, but it's right at one.
Marcus - (00:15:51)
Yeah. And then what would you see as kind of the upper bound, you know, kind of comfortably. Where would you be able to take that?
Andy - (00:16:01)
I would say about 1.5 mark.
Marcus - (00:16:04)
Okay. What's the latest on medical inflation?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:16:16)
You know, there's been quite a few articles. Ambess actually put out a segment report on workers compensation and they, you know, spoke to medical inflation. Certainly everyone has their eye on it. We're not immune to medical inflation. At the same time, I believe the fee schedules and the fee structure and workers compensation is probably abating that to some degree for workers compensation much more than it is for non workers compensation things, you know, things people are seeing in their health care renewals and those kinds of things. So I do think we have some relief from the fee schedules in terms of medical inflation. Utilization is something and I think we talked about this on the last call. Utilization is something NCCI sort of out pointed pointed to when they talked about the 6% increase they saw in medical inflation. Something certainly we're keeping our eyes on particularly home health. I've been talking about for a number of years and I'll continue to talk about home health. But even in terms of physician visits, what we've kind of noticed a little bit more PA visits are physician assistant visits which sometime lead to additional visits because a doctor has to sign off on a release of a patient. So we're just keeping our eye on that. I don't know there's anything that's more anecdotal than in the data yet, but utilization is something we want to keep our eye on since the fee schedules seem to be doing their job. And we know that there is a shortage in the healthcare industry. So in terms of some services being available. So those are the things we're watching out for.
Marcus - (00:17:57)
Yeah. What's in the latest trend in terms of the approved state loss costs? The most recent ones. Any trend there?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:18:07)
Great question. So we have, I think four states that had increases, Missouri, D.C. nevada, California. And we talked about California on the last call. Those are the ones that had that I can. That I think had increases on average, what we're seeing and most of the loss costs for 2026 are already in and approved. And what we're seeing is pretty steady state mid single digit declines. I did look at the CIAB study, you know, because they survey agents and ask them what they're seeing in terms of their clients renewals. And I noticed and they haven't put their third quarter data out, but in their second quarter data, more than 50% were basically seeing no change. So that would say if that's an accurate depiction of what agents are seeing or what's actually happening in the marketplace, that would lead you to believe that carriers are being relatively disciplined about. Well, okay, the loss cost may be down in terms of the absolute loss cost, but what they're using in terms of their average pricing is sort of flat, at least based on that agent survey. So that's a sign of. I would speak to relative discipline in the marketplace.
Marcus - (00:19:23)
Yeah. You'd mentioned your insured payrolls are expanding. Any specific comments on wage growth, how wage growth is compared in 3q to last few quarters?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:19:41)
Right, yeah. So wage growth in the quarter we saw about 6.7%. The total was about 8.9%. 6.7 was actual wage changes and a new employee count was. So I was happy to see that 2% in new employee count. If you recall last quarter it was actually slightly negative. And I wondered, okay, is this a blip or is this a data point in terms of is there something happening with integration with our particular employee base? But it sort of bounced back to norms this quarter. So I feel pretty confident about that. That was just a blip last quarter.
Marcus - (00:20:17)
Yeah. What was the wage last quarter?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:20:20)
Wage growth, 5.7.
Marcus - (00:20:23)
Okay.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:20:26)
So yeah, if I look at the last four quarters, it was 5-5-5-6-3-5-7. 6 7.
Marcus - (00:20:33)
Okay, very good. How about the large losses in the quarter?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:20:40)
We ended the quarter with 17 large losses, over a million dollars.
Marcus - (00:20:48)
That's year to date.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:20:50)
Year to date, yes.
Marcus - (00:20:52)
Yeah, that's up a little bit, isn't it?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:20:55)
I think at this point last year we were at 13, if I recall correctly, for 2024, but then we had an uptick in the fourth quarter. Again, I'll go to my favorite saying. Unfortunately these things are lumpy. I never know what quarters they're going to happen in. And I'll also say this when we file the Q later Today, I believe you'll look at claim counts. Reported claim counts on a year to date basis are ever so slightly up, but I think it's a pretty remarkable number when you think about how much we've grown policy count. Yet the claim counts really haven't varied very much. So I think that speaks to what I was saying earlier about frequency is low. I mean, there's no denying that.
Marcus - (00:21:38)
Yeah. And then anything on the competitive front, Brand X talking more about getting into high hazard? Great question.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:21:50)
It is still extremely competitive. We haven't. There hasn't been a lot of movement in terms of competitors either increasing or decreasing their appetite. I think we see it occasionally in a particular class maybe, or in a given state, but it's usually because maybe they've had a bad experience in that particular state or class code. That's actually one of the selling points for Amerisafe with our agents is the fact that we are so consistent about our approach. You know, we've been doing this since 1986, and if you look at our footprint and the classes of business that we underwrite, there's a lot of stability there. And that's actually, to me, one of the value propositions for agents for Amerisafe.
Marcus - (00:22:36)
Yeah. Any thoughts? When we think about Audit premium, obviously that's led to some. Just a little bit of headwind in terms of the written premium, but corrected for that, obviously you've been up double digits. If you're seeing a little more wage growth, does that. Is that a positive for audit premium or should that continue to moderate? What are the puts and takes there?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:23:12)
That's a really interesting way to look at it. This is just my take on it. I do feel that the wage growth numbers that we're seeing now speak well to future audit premium. At the same time, I have to be very cognizant of all the things that are happening in the economy right now with inflation and, you know, everybody's talking about jobs, jobs, jobs. And we've seen these headlines of major layoffs. I feel our industry groups, being the skilled laborers, somewhat protected from the types of layoffs that we seem to be seeing nationwide. A lot of those are at least being anecdotally being pointed to things like, oh, AI is helping us gain efficiencies, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera, and that's why we're lowering headcount. But I do think companies are looking for efficiencies as well. That being said, with skilled labor jobs, a little bit of a different story there. So if we can maintain the wage growth it should bear well for future audit premium moderating, I would think, over time.
Marcus - (00:24:19)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then last standard question. How about the construction end market? The next job being important. Any observations there based on the payrolls.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:24:37)
That are being reported to us and the fact that, you know, I'll point to that new employee count number kind of bouncing back to normal, the economies for our insured base are holding up really well as of right now.
Marcus - (00:24:52)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate it, Janelle.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:24:59)
Thank you.
OPERATOR - (00:25:02)
And once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. And our next question is going to come from Bob Barnum. From Jamie.
Bob Barnum - (00:25:15)
Hey there. Good morning. I, you know, there was a mark. Had you asked the question about the claims, claims counts, you know, given the growth and top line and the graph and the number of policies. Actually, I had a question on your claim staff. I mean, did you. Have you increased claims staff to be able to handle an influx of more claims, even though I understand that the frequency is down, so it really hasn't happened yet. But I'm just kind of curious how your claim staff is situated in case claims do start to increase?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:25:49)
No, we have not really increased the number of claim staff, but I'll back backtrack on that a little bit to say, you know, we run a very lean organization, but at the same time, when our claim counts were dipping down, we also did not decrease our claim staff because of the expertise they bring to the table. And we want to keep those inventories really low. That's not something that we felt like we should dial down and dial back, then try to dial back up. So the number of claims staff has not changed.
Bob Barnum - (00:26:20)
Okay. Yeah, I figured they have. I mean, I understand they have a, you know, a lower volume of claims they already handle. So I didn't, I didn't. I wasn't surprised that they would be able to handle it in house. But just, just curious, do you guys, are you actively looking to expand into any other states? And if so, you know, what's, what's causing you not to want not to at this point? I'm just, just kind of curious if you're even looking at this point.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:26:48)
We are constantly looking. You know, we have a committee here that is always looking at class codes and geographies of where we're not and maybe where we should be or where we are and maybe we're not having a great experience, whatever the case may be. So I would always say that we are Continually considering that. Nothing on the near horizon.
Bob Barnum - (00:27:09)
Right. Okay. And the last question I had was on the fee schedules, obviously it sounds like that's, that's helping to contain medical costs. And just to know, you know, on average, how long do fee schedules stay in place before they're renewed and do you see that, you know, fee schedules are renewed, Will that have an impact?
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:27:28)
Yeah, very, very appropriate. They are updated somewhat regularly. And of course, a lot of them are based on, there's a lot of things based off Medicare and Medicaid. So, however, how often that gets updated. And plus it also, there's also a political side to that. If I, if I can say, you know, if workers compensation becomes an issue in any given state, legislatively, they will get involved to make some things happen. And as of right now, and I'll knock on this wooden desk, say workers comp doesn't seem to be at the top of anyone's agenda because there's so many other things happening in the PNC space, particularly with homeowners and auto, that legislators are more apt to try to find solutions for. And workers comp's been pretty kind of steady state. So I think employers are relatively happy with the things that are happening. Carriers are pretty much satisfied with the way things are happening. So as of right now, it doesn't seem to be on the top, at least to my knowledge, on the top of any legislative agendas in a large way that would cause the fee schedules to change.
Bob Barnum - (00:28:33)
Yeah, it kind of makes sense. Don't fix what's not broken at this point. Okay, that's it for me. Thanks for the color.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:28:41)
Thank you, Bob.
OPERATOR - (00:28:47)
And there appears to be no further questions in the queue at this time. I'd now like to turn the conference back over to Janelle Frost, CEO, for any additional or closing remarks.
Janelle Frost - President and CEO - (00:28:57)
Thank you. We are pleased with this quarter's results and the successes we're having in adding small incremental growth while maintaining the standards that make Amerisafe a profitable underwriter of high hazard workers compensation. Thank you for joining us today.
OPERATOR - (00:29:17)
And this concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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