Zhihu reports 16.3% year-over-year reduction in non GAAP operating loss, maintaining focus on AI-driven growth and achieving full-year profitability in 2025.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Zhihu Inc. Third Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Today's conference is being recorded and webcasted. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Yolanda Liu, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Ma'am.

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Thank you. Operator. Hello everyone. Welcome to Zhihu's third quarter 2025 financial results conference call. Joining me today on the call from the senior management team are Mr. Zhou Yuan, founder, chairman and chief executive officer, and Mr. Wang Han, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's discussion will include forward looking statements made under the safe harbor provisions of U.S. private Security Legislation Reform act of 1995. These statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. As such, actual results may be materially different from the views expressed today. Further information regarding these and other risks and uncertainties is included in our public filings with the U.S. securities and Exchange Commission and the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. The Company does not assume any obligation to update any forward looking statements except as required under the applicable law. Additionally, the discussion today will include both GAAP and non GAAP financial measures for comparison purpose only. For reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please refer to our earnings release issued earlier today. In addition, a webcast replay of this conference call will be available on our IR website@ir.joofu.com this quarter, Zhou Yuan's AI agents will once again deliver the prepared remarks in English on his behalf. Victor is still in training, so we appreciate your patience as he continues to improve. Victor, please go ahead.

Thank you, Yolanda. Hello everyone and thank you for joining Zhihu third quarter 2025 earnings call. I am Victor Zhou Yuan and I am pleased to deliver today's opening remarks on behalf of Mr. Zhou Yuan, founder, chairman and CEO of Zhihu. The third quarter marked another meaningful step toward our goal of achieving non GAAP breakeven on a full year basis. As our structural optimization initiatives continue to take effect, we further refined our service offerings and balanced commercialization with community health. We also maintained disciplined cost control and improved operating efficiency. As a result, our non GAAP operating loss narrowed by 16.3% year over year in the third quarter. At the same time, our community ecosystem continues to strengthen. User mix and engagement improved. While MAUs increased modestly from the second quarter, daily time spent continue to trend higher year over year and quarter over quarter, our users and creators remain highly active, supporting improved core user retention and a steady stream of reliable high quality content on the platform. With our high quality content, expert network and AI capabilities working greater synergy, we are accelerating our agentic AI upgrades to deliver trusted and differentiated experiences to users both within and beyond the community. As the AI industry enters a new phase of real world integration and accelerated deployment, Zhihu as role as a trusted source of high quality content and data upstream of Chinese LLMs and AI applications is gaining prominence, creating expanding opportunities for collaboration. With rising high quality content, a highly active base of professional creators and accelerating AI integration, our community ecosystem radiates vitality. Our competitive mode of trusted content continues to strengthen. In the third quarter, daily creation of high quality content increased by over 25% year over year, with professional AI focused content up by more than 30% compared to the same period last year. As AI technologies and applications rapidly advance in China, Zhihu remains a go to platform for frontline engineers and the researchers for sharing and lively discussions. AI focused content covers a range of subjects including deep technical analysis, innovative product applications, emerging industry trends, personal growth, career development and a growing array of emerging topics driven by rapid AI adoption. From the technical debates between Minimax and Moonshot AI over efficient attention, which sparks heated discussions on Zhihu and highlighted China's diverse approaches to LLM innovation to the in depth engineering analysis of new models shared by leading companies, Zhihu has become a trusted source for authentic first hand exchanges. These discussions have made our platform a place where AI innovations are first interpreted, validated and shared. Meanwhile, we continue to strengthen our trustworthy content ecosystem through ongoing improvements to content governance mechanisms and recommendation algorithms. Professional creators are a vital force in our community. In the third quarter, daily active high tier creators increased significantly on both year over year and sequential basis. The number of verified honored creators also grew by 29% year over year. Engagement among AI focused creators also continues to strengthen. Zhihu now brings together more than 16 million continuous learners and 3.56 million proficient creators in science and AI and 150,000 ecosystem builders. These contributors not only add consistent high quality input to our AI content ecosystem, but also shows significant potential as future service providers for enterprises beyond the science and AI creator. Activity in humanities and social sciences also remains strong across the platform. In September we launched the CO Benefit Co Creation Initiative in collaboration with leading institutions such as Alibaba Foundation, Tencent Charity Foundation, One foundation and Greenpeace. Alongside psychologists, medical experts and writers, this initiative generated a wide range of high quality content across disability rights, mental health, environmental protection and more, drawing over 80 million views. We also hosted the 2025 Zhihu Humanities season Renwenji event which brought creators together through a blend of online and offline engagement. The campaign attracted nearly 30 influential creators, driving a 7.5% quarter over quarter increase in creator activity in the humanities category and generating 5.82 million topic views, reinforcing Zhihu's professional influence and cultural relevance. To better support professional creators, we continue to enhance the content creation and distribution experience. Our ideas product supports knowledge based expression from high tier creators and enables more diverse short form content creation among mid tier creators. As a result, average daily content volume and interactions increased by 21.7percent and 33.1% quarter over quarter respectively. Our CIRCLES product also continues to serve as a focus space for for users with shared interests to gather and interact with average daily views more than tripling sequentially during the quarter. We also continue to advance our agentic AI upgrades across the community. From a product perspective, Zhihuz evolved into the agentic mode at the end of September, delivering more accurate and smarter search results. Most notably, Zhihu Zhidar now serves as a helpful partner for deep thinking and creativity capable of understanding user intent, performing multi step reasoning and synthesizing information across research, learning and content creation. Our advancements in agentic AI are also amplifying the value of our creators by strengthening the attribution of content to trusted creators across the knowledge base and research. AI generated responses now cites verify the knowledge during the reasoning stage, significantly reducing hallucination and improving trust. This strengthens creator influence within the generative AI landscape and gives Zhihu a distinct advantage as a trusted content provider in an emerging AI ecosystem. Now moving on to commercialization in the third quarter, our commercialization continued to recover on a healthier base with total revenues reaching RMB 6589 million in the third quarter. We also made a notable progress in exploring new monetization avenues by leveraging our core strengths. Let's take a closer look at our performance by business unit. In the third quarter, marketing services revenue was IMB1. Notably, the year over year decrease narrowed indicating the bottoming out of our adjustment cycle. We expect marketing services revenue to begin growing on a sequential basis in the fourth quarter. During the quarter we made solid progress in both optimizing our client mix and upgrading our advertising products. We continue to optimize client mix with by deepening our focus on high value accounts with our brand power and expanding commercial ip driving strong uptake from enterprise clients, particularly in technology and other high value verticals. In late September, we hosted the Tech Club Conference, bringing together AI experts and some of the most influential tech creators from the Zhihu community to explore the latest developments and future applications of AI. The event showcased the technology's transforming role in everyday life and our unique ability to connect professional content with meaningful brand engagement, further expanding our high value client base through the Zihu platform. Leading companies such as Gree, China Mobile, Huawei and iFlytech further strengthen their brand positioning in technological innovation. Product Excellence Backed by the credibility of our brand and strong commercial efficiency created by professional discussions across our community, we made a solid progress in acquiring new clients across diverse sectors such as automotive, consumer and healthcare. This quarter we also further upgraded a wide range of our commercial products by integrating AI more deeply across our portfolio. Our dual ecosystem optimization and product efficiency engines drove a significant increase in positive feedback from clients. For example, we launched the upgraded CCS for idea scenarios and introduced the product to more clients. By offering this short content plus precise scenarios format, it bridges authentic experiences and purchase decisions for brands and merchants. At the same time, it makes content consumption and the decision making for users substantially more efficient. We're also seeing rising demand from clients to improve brand and product presentation in AI Generated answers Leveraging our trusted content and high citation rate across the Internet, we launched our new Gem Marketing solution in early November. This new solution provides core insights such as visibility across AI platforms and and citation analytics. Leading technology clients we have worked with include Lenovo, iFlytech, vivo and Proya. We have received a positive endorsement as we help enhance both their SEO and GEO performance for brands and new products. Looking ahead with a healthier ecosystem, stronger client base and a more robust service offerings, we will continue to leverage AI to drive a steady recovery and long term growth in our marketing services business. And now for our paid membership business. In the third quarter, average monthly paid members increased by 8.1% sequentially to 14.3 million with revenue reaching RMB 386 million. Our efforts to boost member retention and ARPU through diversified initiatives continue to generate positive feedback from both creators and users. The Yanya Story long form writing marathon came to a successful close in late October after six months campaign generating tens of thousands of submissions in the third quarter alone. This initiative opened up new development pathways for aspiring creators and provided a steady pipeline of content for for our library and the future IP development. At the same time, voice live streaming saw a further improvement in paid conversion rates. We also unlocked further commercial potential for our IP adaptations in China and overseas. During the quarter, revenue from IP licensing maintained its triple digit growth rate year over year and generated high double digit growth quarter over quarter year. To date, revenue has nearly doubled compared with the same period last year. In mid October, Yan Yang Story debuted at the Frankfurt Book Fair showcasing Chinese digital literature on the global stage for the first time. It also drew coverage from the UK magazine the Bookseller, which noted the new growth path for Chinese short form digital literature in the international markets. By the end of October, Yanyan Story licensed more than 100 titles for publication across major Asian markets including Japan, South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam. A number of works have also been adapted into short dramas for overseas markets and performed well, reflecting the growing popularity of Chinese short form content abroad. Meanwhile, Yanyan Story has established partnerships with international platforms such as Mobile Reader and goodnovel to translate works into English, Spanish, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Thai, Indonesian and other languages, further expanding its international reach. Going forward, we will pursue a diversified set of initiatives to improve member retention and APU by enhancing content supply, membership benefits and personalized experiences, we aim to strengthen long term member value as AI enables more efficient content creation, the potential for IP development and commercialization will expand, unlocking new growth opportunities for our membership business. Starting this quarter, we are simplifying our revenue breakdown and will begin reclassifying vocational training revenue into other revenues to align with our overall strategy. Other revenues were RMB83.9 million, of which we will continue to adjust our vocational training business with a focus on improving operational efficiency and prioritization. Although our vocational training business has been reclassified, we continue to build on its creator driven foundation with the development of our column product. Designed primarily to serve Zhihu creators, Column is intended to enhance the creator ecosystem rather than act as a new commercial growth driver. During the quarter, we enhanced the product by rolling out PC version and AI tools that help creators generate column descriptions and cover designs. This enhancement drove sequential growth in both the number of leading column creators and creator user engagement. Monetization models for column creators is also becoming more diversified with overall GMV more than doubling compared with last quarter. Going forward, we will continue to operate with discipline, maintaining stability while investing prudently for sustainable growth. With the ongoing enhancements in efficiency and steady cost optimization, we are confident in achieving our full year profitability target. Building on this foundation, we will continue to invest with a long term view to strengthen our AI capabilities and improve the efficiency of our core operations. Deeper AI integrations will drive greater synergies across content creation, distribution and monetized on zuhu Meanwhile, we will further refine our product and marketing strategies to capitalize on new growth opportunities from high quality users and enterprise clients. With a healthier operating structure and ongoing innovation, we are well positioned to thrive in this next stage of high quality growth. With that, I will hand the call over to our cfo, Wong Han Han. Please go ahead.

Now. I will review the details of our third quarter financials. For a complete overview of our third quarter 2025 results, please refer to our earnings release issued earlier today. In the third quarter we maintained disciplined cost management and drove further improvements in operational efficiency. As a result, our non GAAP operating loss narrowed by 16.3% year over year. We continue to invest in areas that reinforce our long term growth potential, striking a healthy balance between efficiency and investment. Our total revenues for the quarter were RMB 658.9 million compared with RMB 845 million in the same period of 2024. The decrease was mainly the result of our continued efforts to optimize revenue mix and focus on sustainable high quality growth. Notably, the year over year decrease narrowed for the third consecutive quarter in line with our expectations. Our marketing services revenue for the quarter was RMB 1.89.4 million compared with RMB 256.6 million in the same period of 2024. This decrease was mainly driven by our proactive refining of service offerings and optimization of client mix. Encouragingly, the year over year decrease narrowed meaningfully indicating that our adjustment cycle has bottomed out. Paid membership revenue was RMB 385.6 million compared with RMB 459.4 million in the same period of 2024. While the number of average monthly subscribing members fell year over year, they rebounded and grew 8.1% sequentially to 14.3 million. We also continued to enhance retention and ARPU through diversified content and membership initiatives. Other revenues were RMB83.9 million compared with RMB 129 million in the same period of 2024. The decrease was primarily due to the strategic refinement of our vocational training business. Our gross profit for the quarter was RMB 403.6 million compared with RMB 540.1 million in the same period of 2024. Gross margin was 61.3% compared with 63.9% in the same period of 2024. Our total operating expenses for the quarter decreased by 19.4% year over year to RMB 503.5 million. The decrease was primarily due to a more efficient cost structure and disciplined resource allocation across key operating areas. Selling and marketing expenses decreased by 14.9% to RMB 330.1 million from RMB 388 million in the same period of 2024. The decrease was mainly due to tighter control over promotional spending and optimized personnel related expenses. Research and development expenses decreased by 36.2% to RMB 114.4 million from RMB 179.3 million in the same period of 2024. The decrease was primarily driven by continued improvement in research and development productivity and efficiency. General and Administrative expenses were RMB 59 million compared with RMB 57.2 million in the same period of 2024. Our GAAP net loss for this quarter was RMB 46.7 million compared with RMB 9 million in the same period of 2024. On a non GAAP basis, our adjusted net loss was RMB 21 million compared with RMB 13.1 million in the same period of 2024. As of 30 September 2025, we had cash and cash equivalents, term deposits, restricted cash and short term investments of RMB 4.6 billion compared with RMB 4.9 billion as of 31 December 2024. As of 30 September 2025, we repurchased 31.1 million Class A Ordinary shares for an aggregate value of US dollars 66.5 million on the open market. Additionally, we repurchased A total of 22.5 million Class A Ordinary shares for an aggregate value of US$34.5 million through the trustee of the company as of the end of the third quarter. Looking ahead, we are on track to achieve full year breakeven on a non GAAP basis. We will continue to further strengthen our monetization capabilities and pursue new revenue opportunities that leverage Zhihu's strengths in high quality content creator expertise and AI driven innovation. Together, these efforts will reinforce our business resilience and support sustainable long term growth. This concludes my prepared remarks on our financial performance for this quarter. Let's turn the call over to the operator for the Q and A session.

Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press Star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press Star one and one again. In the interest of time, please ask one question each time. If you have any follow up questions, please go back to the queue. Thank you. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. Thank you. We will now begin with our first question and this is from Vicky Wei from Citi. Please go ahead. Thanks management for taking my question.

Would management share some color about the AI progress of Zhihu? For example the penetration rate of Zhihu Zhida and the progress of the AI. Integration with the Zhuhu community. Thank you.

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Thank you for question Vicky. This is from Zhou Yuan Zhihu CEO. First of all I would like to say sorry about my weak voice because I didn't recover yet from my cold. Anyway, I would just start with your first question. So as you can see, Zhihu Zhida remains one of our key products. Its overall usage and penetration rate continue to increase in in the third quarter with penetration rate existing 15% nearly four times higher than the same period last year. This not only reflects the ongoing evolution of our foundational AI capability across the community, but also demonstrate strong user endorsements of a very strategic depending of AI community. This also give us very strong confidence to continue upgrading this AI community. Experience updates across more touch points.

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Now let me just share some recent progress and upcoming plans. First of all, in the search scenario, by late November Zhihu Zhida will fully augment our general AI search capability to include Zhihu Zhida generated content for for all users. Additionally, we will soon launch pilot features such as cross topic content aggregation and community trend summaries. This will formally navigate Zhihu Zhida from secondary entry point to a primary one, further boosting AI adoption across the entire community.

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And second of all on the content creation side, we are empowering professionals with strong AI copilot. In this quarter we launched a suite of AI assistant writing tools for our creation assistant which includes smart headlines, grammar and factor checking and lead paragraph generation. This will help creator optimize long form structured and expert level content. So by the end of the 3Q adoption of these new AI features had already surpassed 20%. Looking ahead, we plan to introduce additional capabilities such as AI powered multi model content conversion, intelligent formatting and short form content generation and etc. These tools will significantly lower the barrier to entry for meteor creators, enabling more user to express themselves effortlessly to increase posting frequency, creation frequency and engage more actively. In addition, on the content consumption and distribution side, we're also expanding JIDA into high frequency conception scenarios. For example AI powered daily briefing on Zhihu training topics and other vertical specific hot topics as well as the ability to as mentioned Zhihu Zhida in threads or to auto summarize discussions and surface key insights will help user quickly grasp complex conversations and participants more meaningfully. We believe this will further strengthen user engagement and community sickness. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll now take the next question. This is from Lu Qing Xu from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Management for the opportunity so my question. Is how do you see the current. Status of Juhu's user ecosystem and based. On that, could management share more color on directions for improving Zhihu's future project. Design and how's the progress so far? Thank you.

Thank you for the question. This is from Zhou Yuan Zhihu CEO we believe overall the community ecosystem is very healthy. We do not rely on any single matrix to assess its health. Instead, we focus on content quality, user structure and user quality and whether our content creator incentives are forming a virtuous cycle. We have also deployed AI as a core product driver as a strategic level. Over the past few quarters we have made a synergistic development of high quality content multiplied by expert network multiplied by AI capabilities as a core path for driving our ecosystem in a positive direction. From this perspective, our ecosystem is stable and continuously improving. This is fully in line with our expectations as well.

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First of all, the trustworthiness and professionalism of our content are very crucial. They are crucial indicators of the ecosystem health. Over the past few quarters we have continued to strengthen our trustworthy content ecosystem and our expert network while also cracking down on low quality content and traffic to keep the ecosystem healthy at its core and reverse the virtuous cycle. As a result, we have delivered several consecutive quarters of double digit growth in daily high quality content creation. The AI category is the most reflective of this progress with professional AI related content regarding double digit growth for four consecutive quarters on this basis, users trust in our content has also continued to increase steadily.

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And secondly, our user structure and user quality have improved and users need across different scenarios has been addressed. As we can see from last Q4, our MAU have remained stable on a sequential basis for four consecutive quarters and building on that average of daily user time spent, which we believe as a proxy for engagement and retention has delivered double digits year over year growth for six consecutive quarters. Our user remains mainly young and focused on learning and growth, with user age between 18 to 30 accounting for more than 65% of our total user base. Among them, frontline professionals in technology and AI have become one of the most representative groups. They have long term professional learning, frontier exploration and interest development needs and contribute more content and provide a stronger positive feedback to the ecosystem. And last but not the least the content, the creator ecosystem continue to grow and expand. Output from top tier professional creators have remained stable over seven consecutive quarters. At the same time, by using AI tools, we are continuously lowering the creation threshold for mid tier creators and increasing the creation frequency of the entire creator group. This makes the supply side of the community more diverse and keep social interaction within the community growing. So in summary, ecosystem health is foundational to Juhu. Going forward, we'll continue to invest in trust content and expert network so that as a community skills it can maintain its professionalism, vibrancy and trustworthiness. Let me just turn to the second question you mentioned. It's about our core products going forward plan here. We hold few key beliefs. First of all, over the next three years people will consume more AIGC content. At the same time human to human interaction will become more valuable. So we believe both trends will coexist. And the second belief we hold here is that stronger AI becomes, the more people will experience a sense of diminished presence which means the participation, social capital and real relationships enabled by community will become increasingly scarce and increasingly deminded. And the third belief here is that high quality human generated content and data will become extremely scarce as well as valuable on the supply end. This supply matters on both ends. It's crucial for the advancement of AI as well as for human development.

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So going forward, JIDA will definitely integrate with our users functional social needs. For example, when a user wants to ask a question, search or look for resources, AI will dramatically raise efficiency. And JIDA will push the community further towards utility, enabling even a first day user to get a meaningful experience immediately. At the same time we will double down on the social needs that come from real human connection. Things like feeling recognized, growing together and finding people who share your identity. We want to build this thing with user feel like a sense of belonging in an environment grounded in real people, real culture and trust trusted interactions. So our future product direction is built around two pillars, utility and identity. My hope is for Zhihu to become the connection layer for humans in AI era as a place where people can use AI tools to understand the world and as well as a community where they can find renaissance and understanding from one another. At the same time, we plan to use our trusted content and experts network as two foundational layers of infrastructure. Thank you. Thank you again for your question.

Thank you. We will take the next question. This is from Daisy Chen from Haitong International. Please go ahead.

Could management update the progress of the adjustments in each business line? Do you see any signs that the revenue has bottomed out or started to rebound? In particular, how do you expect the future of the advertising business? And also, could you share your outlook on the company's profitability? Thank. You.

Thank you for your question, Daisy. This is from Wang Han Zhihu, cfo, so I will just pick up your second question. Here's a quick take on our profitability outlook. After delivering a solid profit in the first two quarters, we now see a very high likelihood of achieving our first full year non GAAP profitability in 2025. So with that buffer in place, we are using Q3 and Q4 as a window to keep fine tuning and investing where needed. That's why you will see you can see a small loss in Q3 which is well within what we can comfortably. Let me just work through the adjustments across our major revenue lines. First, about marketing services. As we mentioned last quarter, this Q3 would become the bottom and we expect a sequential recovery starting in Q4. What we see now give us confidence to maintain that guidance looking ahead to next year. Our goal is for each quarter to stay above the baseline set by Q3 this year. Second, about the paid membership. This segment is still in a transition period. As we said before, even the best libraries and bookstores separate fiction from nonfiction. The real challenge here is how to differentiate and integrate them in a way that feels natural to users. We will continue experimenting here, so we cannot say paid membership revenue has hit its bottom yet, but even if there is some decline, it will concern products or cohorts with lower roi, weaker probability or less than ideal retention. Third is about vocational training. This business is no longer a drag on our overall bottom line. Given this relatively low base or small scale, we have now reclassified it into others. So overall you've seen us deliver several consecutive quarters of profitability followed by this small loss in Q3. Even so, we remain confident in achieving full year profitability with that foundation. We are taking this period to make necessary adjustments and targeted investments as we approach our first full year of profitability. We also want to use this moment to shed some legacy inefficiencies and to start fresh. We have no intention of staying where we are and simply just squeezing out profit. We are now operating from a healthier foundation and getting back onto a trajectory that aligns with Zhuhu's long term development. Also, we have a very solid cash position and we're not reverting to the old model of spending aggressively just for scale and this new AI cycle. In this AI era, our focus is on strengthening Zhihu's position in real people interactions, expert network and trusted content areas. And these capabilities are becoming increasingly important and carry real social value. Thank you for your question.

Thank you. We will now take the next question. And this is from Jing Yi Huang from Guangfa. Please go ahead. Next question is from Jing Yi Huang from Guangfa. Please go ahead with your question. Hello caller, is your line on mute? We cannot hear you. Once again, that's Jing Heng Guangfa. If you have a question, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Yes, we can. Yes, we can hear you. Could management share some more color about the shareholder return plan in progress? Thank you for your question. This is from Wang Han Zhihu, cfo. We can see over the past two years we've been one of the most active buyback companies among us listed Chinese names. That conviction came from our confidence in reaching profitability and this year we expect demonstrate that our outlook and targets set two years ago are being delivered. Even so, Zhihu's current market cap remains significantly below the cash on our balance sheet. So we believe we are super undervalued. Therefore, we intend to maintain our buyback program and expect to remain one of the most active repurchase in this sector. Thank you again for your question.

Thank you. That concludes today's Q and A session. At this time I will turn the conference back to Yolanda for any additional or closing remarks.

Thank you once again for joining us today. If you have any further questions, please contact our IR team directly or Christensen Advisory. Thank you. Thank you so much.

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.