Murphy USA maintains strong performance with flat EBITDA, announces $2 billion buyback plan amid leadership transition.

Thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Murphy USA third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one. Again, we ask today that you limit yourself to one question and one follow up. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Kristian Paykel, Vice President of Investor Relations and FT&A. You may begin.

Hey, Good morning. Thank you everybody. Thank you, Jeanne. With me are Andrew Clyde, Chief Executive Officer, Mindy West, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Donnie Smith, Chief Accounting Officer and Interim Chief Financial Officer. After some opening comments from Andrew, both Mindy and Donnie will provide an overview of the financial results, operating performance and a review of our 2025 guidance metrics. Before we open the call to Q and A, please keep in mind some of these comments made during this call, including the Q and A portion, will be considered forward looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform act of 1995. As such, no assurances can be given that these events will occur or that the projections will be attained. A variety of factors exist that may cause actual results to differ. For further discussion of risk factors, please see the Latest Murphy USA forms, 10K, 10Q, 8K and other recent SEC filings. Murphy USA takes no duty to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements during today's call. We may also provide certain performance measures that do not conform to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles or GAAP. We have provided schedules to reconcile these non GAAP measures with the reported results on a GAAP basis as part of our earnings press release, which can be found on the Investor section of our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Andrew Clyde.

Thank you Christian Good morning and thank you all for joining today's Call. I'm quite positive this is a call I will always remember, as I expect it to be my last earnings call as Chief Executive Officer of Murphy USA. It has been an incredible honor to serve as Murphy USA's leader and doing so has been the pinnacle of my professional career. For those joining live today or reading the transcript later, I would encourage you to take away three things from today's call. Continuity, resilience and momentum. In terms of continuity, yesterday's announcement signaled both continuity and Murphy USA's leadership and continuity in our long term capital allocation strategy. Having foretold this day to investors as a hypothetical in the past, we certainly appreciate the need to be as clear about future strategy and capital allocation as we are about future leadership. And as both our 50:50 strategy and Mindy are well known to investors, we believe this announcement sends a clear message about what Murphy USA will continue to deliver and what investors should continue to expect at the end of our Murphy USA Board meeting Last Thursday I officially notified the board of my intent to retire as President and CEO at the end of the year. The timing reflects a very thoughtful, intentional and multi year CEO succession plan which led to Mindy's appointment as Chief Operating Officer back in February of 2024 and after almost two years in the current structure, we're ready to make the final transition. As you saw in yesterday's press release, Mindy becomes President of Murph USA immediately and will become CEO and a member of the Board of directors on January 1, 2026 and I will remain as advisor to the company through February of 2027. Mindy and I took this company public in 2013 and she has been by my side every step of the way through the peaks and the troughs, through the campaigns that made the business better, through the major inflection points like Covid and the Walmart transition that shaped the business we run today, leading by example and establishing a winning culture. In short, she is well positioned to lead Murph USA into its next chapter, providing the continuity that all our stakeholders will value from a successful transition in terms of continuity in our capital allocation strategy. The Board took this opportunity to authorize a new $2 billion share repurchase program as we are about 80% through the existing one and a half billion dollar program while at the same time renewing our dividend policy at its four year anniversary where we had naturally increased the cash pool for dividends, having repurchased about 60% of the shares since the spin ahead of target dates and increasing dividends at a compounded annual growth rate of 20% since inception of the dividend. Murph USA is committed to the continuity of its capital allocation approach to reward long term investors. Complementing our 50:50 approach is the Board's commitment to new to industry store growth and reinvestments within the existing network and Mindy will touch on both sides of the 50:50 strategy in her remarks as she will carry this very bright torch into the future in terms of resilience. Murphy USA's third quarter results speak for themselves despite earning $0.02 per gallon less on fuel margins. We generated the Same EBITDA as Q3 a year ago due to the underlying improvements made to the business and the enduring strength of our core category capabilities that yielded outsized results. Updated guidance metrics for the full year highlight the team's efforts as merchandise contribution is expected to be in the upper end of the guidance range as exceptional Q3 results and Q4 momentum more than offsets first half temporal effects and OPEX and GNA expenses are both expected to finish positively below the low end of our guidance due to ongoing initiatives in our previously announced staff restructuring with regards to fuel. In our most recent investor meetings we described the low price, long supply and consequently low volatility environment as a trough the most challenging for an EDLP fuels retailer and contrasted it to the 2022 peak. Ultimately, how a firm responds in a trough speaks to its true resilience and whether it can sustain its commitment to an EDLP strategy and emerge a winner on the other side when the cycle normalizes and Murph USA has done just that. Through capabilities that strengthen its competitiveness and enhance customer stickiness, we are performing significantly better than in the prior trough environment and we continue to lean into value. Most importantly, we continue to see the structural component of the retail fuel margin grow as the marginal retailer remains challenged and passes through to customers its higher break even requirements. This is not only supports Murphy's ability to lean into price in the current low price environment, but highlights the upside potential for when margins normalize and we certainly expect the cycle to normalize. In fact, over the life of any 25 year store investment one should expect three peaks every six to eight years and three troughs based on the last 25 years experience with normalized periods in between and when we invest, we are basing our economics on mid cycle factors, noting there is significant upside over time from the consistently increasing structural component of the margin in terms of momentum. While Q3 merchandise results are exceptional, we would argue that on an annualized basis the performance reflects ongoing trends that we expect to continue. For example, nicotine promotional dollars have grown at an impressive 12% CAGR since 2020. While we will never be able to predict exactly what products are being promoted in which quarter, our capabilities to engage consumers in the category are unparalleled in other areas. Quick Check reported its fourth successive quarter of same store food and beverage sales growth and total center store categories grew by 5% and while same store operating expenses moderated increasing by only 2.8% for the quarter and ongoing campaigns are designed to further this momentum. New store openings are now projected to be over 45 for the year, with a strong pipeline supporting 50 plus stores in 2026 and into the future. Currently nearly 40 stores are under construction that will open in Q4 and early Q1 of 2026, while the newest stores ramping do not have the same subsequent year EBITDA impact as stores further into the ramp. Getting this first group of about 50 stores under our belt creates the line of sight to futures earnings growth as new build classes come on board before handing over the call to Mindy and Donnie for additional remarks. On a personal note, my announcement comes with a great sense of accomplishment for what the Murphy USA team has achieved together in the past 13 years and a deep appreciation for an opportunity one can only dream about. As I noted in our internal announcement yesterday, the most resilient force in our business is our team members, the people who make it all happen each and every day. I cannot begin to express my appreciation for their leadership and followership as we have strived to make the business better. Their efforts and sacrifices are too numerous to name and provide the inspiration and energy for future initiatives to keep on making the business better. They define the winning spirit culture at Murph USA and I believe it is one of the greatest hallmarks a company can have and for that I'm both eternally grateful and exceptionally proud. So it is with confidence of an enduring business model, a robust growth and capital allocation strategy, and a winning Murphy USA spirit reflected in our future leader and leaderships and team members that I look forward to in my next chapter, both personally, professionally and as a MRF USA shareholder. I'll now turn the call over to Mindy to review some highlights around our capital allocation strategy and third quarter results.

Mindy, thank you and good morning everyone. But before I start, it has been a great ride Andrew, with a lot of ups and downs. You built the foundation of this very successful public company and have improved it in every type of environment, which is just remarkable and I want you to know I truly appreciate your wisdom, your mentorship and your friendship. You will be missed but it is not goodbye because you that I'm going to be calling you. For those who don't know much about me, I joined Murphy Oil the same year in which we opened our very first Murphy USA store. I was also here by Andrew's side as we launched this company as a public entity and at that time and since we highlighted five key value pillars still relevant today, one of which Investing for The long term has been illustrated through our continued commitment to our 50:50 capital allocation, balancing growth and share repurchase. So with our new board authorization, as you said, I am happy to carry the torch into the future. Now let's talk about third quarter results. As Andrew alluded to, we are pleased with the third quarter. As mentioned, third quarter EBITDA was 285 million virtually flat to the prior year despite all in margins running about 2 pennies lower. This is a significant achievement and is representative of our philosophy that especially during challenging times we dig in and make the business better. So when the next peak environment presents itself, the earnings, power and operating leverage will be that much stronger for longer term investors. Let me break down fuel performance just a little more which remains strong despite that low price, low volatility environment. Average per store month volumes were down 1.8% in the third quarter and down 0.7% on a two year stack. However, all in margins of 30.7 cents including retail margins of 28.3 cents are stronger than one might expect in this environment. If we compare to peak all in margins of 34.3 cents that we experienced in 2022 that included roughly 4 cents of impact attributable to that once in every six year fall off in prices in the third year of 2022, coupled with about a penny and a half to 2 pennies of margin attributable to the tight supply and high volatility environment and then further adjust for the two pennies we are now investing to short volumes in the current low price environment. Given all that, we might expect all in margins to be in the 26 to 27 cent range. So to reiterate, we firmly believe the current margin structure includes 3 to 4 cents of structural uplift since 2022, which would translate to materially higher fuel contributions in a return to normal environment for Mr. 4 USA. Important to note, fuel margins are highly correlated with the environment in which we are operating. While investors frequently ask why margins are lower year over year, why can't they see more of a structural uplift, our answer continues to be that current results are largely attributable to the low volatility and low price environment, which is masking the potential of our business in a normal environment where we believe we would experience several pennies of incremental margin opportunity. Turning to merchandise, total margin contribution dollars were up 24.4 million or 11.2% in quarter three. There are two key drivers of these exceptional results. First, nicotine categories are up over 20% driven by strong promotional activity and center of the store categories grew approximately 5%. Through the continued evolution of Murphy USA Drive Rewards and other capability building initiatives, Murphy USA has dramatically increased the efficacy of our promotional efforts across the store and especially when it comes to executing needle moving product offers to support our vendor partners. While promotional opportunities of this size do not show up every quarter, when they do, manufacturers recognize our ability to execute. We don't always know when or how these opportunities will arise, but when combined with our team's innovative and creative approach to optimizing promotional impact, it's important to recognize that third quarter margin benefit is not one time. For instance, while not a data point we would otherwise go out of our way to provide in the third quarter, we also saw strong promotional activity in the traditional smokeless products that drove double digit margin growth in that category. So, taken together across a wide variety of products over time, the collective impact of nicotine promotional dollars has been both significant and and sustainable. In fact, since 2020, nicotine promotional dollars have grown at a very impressive 12% CAGR as Andrew mentioned, and performance that we would expect to replicate going forward. Turning to center of the store where total margin dollars were up about 5%, we saw strength across the board driven by mid single digit gains in our largest categories, packaged beverages, general merchandise, candy and lottery, where the $1.9 billion Lotto jackpot did help to drive traffic and transactions. Total food and beverage sales were up 2.7% in the third quarter. Margins remain pressured though, down 2.2% at QuickChek. We continue to focus on price and value for our customers, which is propping up sales and traffic and translating to better performance across the rest of the store. Excluding food and beverage, total non nicotine sales and margin at Quick Check were both positive for the first time in 2025, up 3.1% and 5.8% respectively. Of course, merchandise sales do not happen in a vacuum. To grow sales and effectively execute promotional opportunities, the store has to look good, be well stocked and in functional working order in addition to being properly staffed. Yet, per store operating expense was only up a modest 2.8% in the third quarter, or 5.6% on an absolute basis, 2/3 of which is attributable to new and bigger stores. So we continue to enforce restraint in our expense profile, controlling what we can control to ensure the network is running as efficiently as possible. We are making significant strides in reducing loss prevention year over year and and holding labor expense steady, which is helping to reduce our overall cost structure. Bottom line, Murphy USA is performing at a fundamentally different level than it was in the prior trough due to the capabilities we have built and our ability and commitment as a management team to make the business better. As a result, we are improving our competitive position through best in class promotional execution and and relentless discipline around maintaining a low cost structure both at the store level and the home office. I am highly confident in the resilience and durability of our business model and as noted in the capital allocation update we released in conjunction with our third quarter earnings, we are taking action to strengthen shareholder distributions and help maximize shareholder value as we navigate toward the next piece peak in the cycle. First and foremost, we remain steadfastly committed to new store growth primarily through our acceleration of our new to industry store program to 50 plus stores and opportunistic supplementing organic growth with small scale M and A opportunities as they arrive. Second, we have received board authorization to begin executing against a new $2 billion repurchase program through 2030 once we close out the remaining 337 million on the existing $1.5 billion authorization. Third, we expect to continue to grow the dividend payout 10% annually, starting with an additional 10% increase or $0.63 per share for the dividend payable on December 1st of this year. Lastly, we will explore other reinvestment opportunities in the network to help improve the customer offer and reinvigorate the same store base while maintaining a leverage ratio at or below 2.5 times. For the long term, I'll close out my comments with a little color around October's performance. Preliminary October fuels results continue to reflect the strong fundamentals I mentioned earlier. Despite the transitory impact of low prices and low volatility, average per store month volumes are running 98% of prior year at retail only, margins approximating 32 cents exhibiting resilience amidst an otherwise lackluster price profile. Here is another important takeaway for October Even at these lower absolute price levels, when we saw prices fall early in the month and margins ran up to the mid 30 cent level, we were able to put some of that on the street to create separation against our peers and in that environment we saw volumes at about 100% of prior year. The run up in prices towards the end of October mitigated some of that impact, resulting in slightly lower volumes. But the point is, the team is executing extremely well against our strategy and the fundamentals are supportive when a little volatility in margin shows up, even if only for a brief period so that business is behaving as we would expect and October results reflect underlying strength that would be even more apparent in a higher price higher volatility environment. With October largely behind us, we do have a higher degree of confidence in our 2025 guidance metrics which we updated in our earnings press release, so I will now turn the call over to.

Donnie Thanks Mindy and Andrew. Starting with our new store development program, we are continuing to make excellent progress. During the quarter we brought eight new stores into service along with another 11 raise and rebuilds, bringing the year to date totals as of September 30 to 22 and 20 respectively. In Q4, 2025 and Q1 of 2026 combined, we expect to open roughly 40 new stores, all of which are currently under construction. This figure includes a small package of four stores we purchased in the Denver market that should be open by year end, an example of an opportunistic small scale real estate play in an attractive market where we want a bigger presence. This gives us line of sight to at least 45 new store openings in 2025 as we continue to grow the new store pipeline positioning us for 50 plus stores in 2026 and beyond. For fuel volume, we expect 2025 volumes to come in below the low end of our original guided range which was 240 to 245,000 gallons per store month. Year to date through the third quarter, average per store volumes are approximately 236,000 gallons per month, reflecting both the Q1 storm impact and the lower relative price sensitivity of customers in a low absolute price environment. As we have discussed in previous calls, based on current trends and our expectations for the remainder of the year, we're adjusting our full year fuel volume guidance to between 235 to 237,000 gallons per store per month for merchandise contribution dollars. As previously discussed, third quarter results highlighted the strength of our promotional engine causing us to tighten our full year guidance at the upper end of the range to between 870 and 875 million. On the expense side, if you've seen us on the road over the last six months, you've probably heard us talk about self help and how we're actively managing our costs and driving savings across the organization to help improve performance amidst a challenging fuel environment. Our efficiency initiatives continue to demonstrate benefits as evidenced by the new labor model we rolled out in the spring that has helped ensure we have the right people in the store at the right time, which is also controlling labor costs and reducing overtime. Similarly, we are seeing benefits and loss prevention where in store training and other investments have paid dividends through reduced shrink. Collectively, these efforts are making an impact, resulting in a lower projected monthly per store operating expense range of 36.2 to $36.6K per store month, down from our original guided range of 36 and a half to $37,000 per store month. On the home office side, as noted in the press release, we completed an organizational restructuring during the quarter which will help streamline our workflows and processes and eliminate technical redundancies while preserving our agile data driven decision capabilities. As such, our 2025 SG and A guidance range is being adjusted lower to 230 to 240 million for full year 2025, which is exclusive of the restructuring charge. From a tax perspective, year to date income taxes have come in lower than planned due to some discrete state tax refunds we received and acquisition of some federal energy tax credits. As such, we are tightening the all in expected effective tax rate to between 23.5% to 24.5% for the full year. When you input all this into the models and use 30 cents per gallon as a fuel margin placeholder for the full year 2025 versus the 29 and a half cents year to date through Q3, you should end up somewhere pretty close to a billion dollars of adjusted ebitda, which likely shouldn't surprise anyone given how we framed our original 2025 guidance in January. At that time the midpoint of our ranges suggested ebitda of about 1.06 billion at 31 and a half cents a gallon. At 30 cents and about 5 billion gallons, a penny and a half variance in margins would generate + or -75 million. All else being equal, as we look at year to date performance, we have more than offset the impact of lower volumes with improved merchandise performance, OPEX efficiencies and G and a cost savings. With that, I'll hand the call back to Andrew.

Thanks Donny and Mindy, and let me close out the call by thanking the analyst community and our investors for your support, your challenge and your candidness over the last 13 years. Your questions early on about a business that wasn't necessarily well understood when we spun off really pushed us to think more deeply about our unique way of creating value, allocating capital and building a flywheel that played to our strengths, helping us win with all our stakeholders. Your challenges around future potential headwinds and the sustainability of fuel margins pushed us to think more analytically about industry structure and the behavior of the marginal retailer. I can probably point to less than a handful of slides over 13 years across all our conferences and meetings where over 90% of our discussions focused around. I would like to think our conversations have helped to shape the broader narrative not just for Murphy USA, but for the convenience industry as a whole. Thank you for being a catalyst partner with us and keep pushing us in the years ahead. Will now turn the call over to questions.

At this time, in order to ask a question, press Star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. And your first question comes from the line of Ed Kelly with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Yeah, hi, good morning and thank you for taking the question. And Andrew, congrats on your retirement. So I wanted to start just on fuel margins. It sounds like the quarter's off to a good start on the margin front. You know, rack prices have been down, but data would suggest that's and I think your tone is that maybe that's fading a bit. Any color on the cadence in terms of fuel margins so far in the quarter and maybe what you're seeing in the last week. And then I just wanted to follow up on something that you mentioned about, you know, investment to drive volume. Obviously you've seen some elasticity on more of the recent work. So what is that telling you about, you know, your plans moving forward in terms of putting some money on the street to drive better volumes in this environment?

Thanks, Ed. I'll take that question. Yes, as I said for the month of October, we did see a run up in prices towards the we did see a run up in margin at the beginning of October. That spike kind of normalized itself as we so while the impact was short lived, the market did behave exactly as we would expect during that time. And so when you talk about your questions about investing for traffic, we absolutely know on a site-by-site basis where we need to be versus our key competitors and where the right pricing position is. And so really our margins are more a function of this low and our volume are really more a function of just this low price environment where our customers are just not as price sensitive and are going to go to a more convenient location. It doesn't mean we leak off every trip, but assuming we may leak off one of every three, one of every four, that certainly starts to have an impact. When I look over this last quarter, the thing that sticks out to me most was it was remarkable for its flatness, which really resulted in little volume or margin creation opportunities. And just to illustrate the lack of volatility, I Looked at this with my analyst group a couple of days ago post Covid. We have never seen a quarter where every month's retail margin was pretty much exactly the same. And in fact you can add May and June to that list because they weren't that different either. So essentially five consecutive months of flat margin. So when we look at the margin side, despite very low volatility, fuel margins are remaining strong at 30 cents all in. So that's showing that, you know, even in an environment entirely unproductive and value capture opportunities or volume capture opportunities, what we managed to do was actually pretty impressive and really speaks to that structural component still being in there. And then as I said in October when we saw that brief price run up, we executed, we generated the margin and volume recovery you would expect. So what I would say is the fuel engine isn't broken, it just needs a jump start to get things moving. We saw then in October it wasn't long lived but we will see it again and we will be there to capitalize on that.

Great. And just maybe a follow up on the ZYN promo in the quarter. You know, obviously a nice event for you. Can you just maybe talk about, you know, your execution of that event and you know, what differentiates you there, the traffic benefit you that you saw and then you know, looking out, you know, the potential for additional similar promos or events that you know, you might see that I think you're indicating that, you know, you don't see it as a one off. So just more color there. Thank you.

Yeah, great question. And we don't get into the details of any particular promotion. I'm sure you can appreciate in any given quarter, as we say, there are dozens that contribute to our results. Some are more material than others. Obviously this one was material. So I do appreciate your question because I think what's important about this one is it really does showcase the strength of our ability to execute for our vendor partners. This was really more about a strategic partner investing to drive share, utilizing our large and very loyal nicotine customer base. It also provided the added benefit for us growing awareness in an already growing category. Driving traffic to the store and utilizing our operations just outstanding ability to execute and deliver on a promotion. We will expect that to continue as manufacturers are going to continue to invest in reduced risk products. And Murphy USA can be an important catalyst to that because when you think about it, we sell five times the industry average volume. Our promotions also have about four times the industry average volume upsell. So that makes us 20 times more effective using their money. And we also are able to measure that halo effect of promotions because of our loyalty engine that really majored in nicotine. So when the promotions come, and they will, we're happy to execute on their behalf. And we have the engine in the store with the sales culture that is very strongly reinforced that our manufacturers know that we can deliver. So while this one, yes, was maybe a one-time this year really material impact, we certainly expect there to be other promotions throughout the sweep of time and continue to propel that cagr of promotional dollars going forward.

Your next question comes from the line of Bonnie Herzog with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

All right, thank you. Good morning everyone and congratulations to all of you. Andrew, you're going to be missed, so stay in touch. But happy for you in this next chapter. I thank you. I had a quick. You're welcome. Thank you for everything. I had a quick follow on question on Zen. You guys just raised your merch contribution guidance, you know, for the year after, I guess pointing to the low end of the range last quarter. So obviously, you know, expectations improved and, you know, you had good performance in the quarter. Should we assume most of that's driven from this, you know, ZYN promotion in September or were there other drivers that, you know, give you the confidence to kind of raise your merch contribution guidance for the year?

Hi, Bonnie. I'll take that one. It does definitely include then, you know, when we think about the first half of the year, the timing of cigarette promotiontions and also the lotto jackpots resulted in comps kind of below our expectations, which we talked to in the last call. Those did turn around in the second half. Obviously this one promotiontion was part of that. But also one key data point I'll share, nicotine pouch volumes were growing around 45% promotiontion in October. We have seen that jump to 120% of prior year volumes and we will likely see that halo effect continue on into November. And also, just as importantly, you know, non combustible nicotine products have fully offset our decline in cigarettes. But it's also not just a nicotine story. We have seen growth in the center of our store categories, as I said, up 5% in margin dollars. And importantly also saw strength across the board. It wasn't just in one place. It was in package Bev, it was in general merch, it was in candy. So I think that highlights the underlying strength of our offer in addition to the nicotine.

Bonnie, one thing I will add here is if you think about some of the investments we talked about a year or so ago, our digital transformation initiative and the expected impact on sustainable center of store growth. We're seeing all that benefit and we've been seeing it for the last few quarters. The relaunch of QuickChek Rewards, driving food and beverage, same store sales growth there and investing in value through that advanced program, it's only driving the food and beverage, but also the center of store. So these are some of the investments that we've highlighted over the last couple of years that in this environment are really flowing through across categories. So it's just coming together in a really nice way.

Okay, that's helpful. And if I may, I wanted to ask about, you know, capital allocation. You know, you raised your quarterly dividend by an impressive 19%. And the board, you know, also also authorized a new share repurchase program. So it does seem like you're increasing returns of cash to shareholders. So how should we think about that relative to your ability to grow the business? I mean, you know, should we assume growth moving forward might be more moderate and. And maybe you're seeing a bigger opportunity to return more cash to share versus reinvesting just any color there would be helpful. Thank you. Yeah.

Bonnie, let me take this one. When we say our 5050 capital allocation, I mean we mean 50:50. We've done strategic work over the last couple of years to test the bookends of that, and we're really confident at that level of balanced capital allocation. It makes sense. If you remember, when we initiated a dividend four years ago, we benchmarked it against peers at about a 0.67% yield. We haven't kept up with that yield because of the outstanding share price performance. And so with this autopilot program where the cash pools raised 10% every year and the quarterly dividends simply then a function of the shares outstanding, we simply took this as an opportunity to increase that, to bump up the yield for long term investors who are holding the stock, especially when the stock's a little bit in a trough. If you think about the incremental $4 million from that extra 10% in the pool, that's one store.

Right.

And we're going to more than make that up, given the growth pipeline that we have in front of us. The other thing I would note, the bonus depreciation benefits that we're going to get from the one big beautiful build is over 10 times that amount. And that's going to go back into reinvesting in the stores. Whether it's remodels, maintenance programs with dispensers, or Future raise and rebuild growth. So the dividend is just simply a way to recognize long term shareholders holding the stock. When we model out the business at the 50 store a year growth in a normalized environment, you know, we're generating significant excess free cash flow in years in the future that more than allow us to do that. Take care of the balance sheet, take care of the share repurchase program. And so as we complete the end of the one and a half billion dollar program, we heard loud and clear from investors, it's really important as you think about the transition to be just as clear about future strategy and capital allocation. So it's really important to send this message at the same time that we're committed to this balanced growth and returns to shareholders and we'll continue to maintain that balance as well as our conservative balance sheet.

Your next question comes from the line of Irene Nattel with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thanks and good morning everyone. And I'll echo the congratulations Andrew, and it's been great. So thank you. Just a couple of follow up questions if I may. You talked about the halo effect on incentive store of the Zen promo. If you kind of dissect out the transactions from those from the customers that benefited from the promo versus those that maybe didn't because they just don't, you know, use use nicotine, was there any difference in consumer behavior? I guess in other words, how much was was the growth really just the halo from the promotion versus the rest of the customer base?

I'm not sure reen that we're fully able to parse that out. But what I will tell you is that the uptake for the Zen offer were largely customers that were already coming in there to purchase another nicotine product anyway. So it wasn't necessarily an extra trip or incremental traffic that we were driving. It was just kind of an end to a visit they already had. So I think that that speaks well to the center of store because I think that that category was increasing on its own and we would have seeing that even despite the nicotine promotion. Obviously the lotto jackpot helps us as well because we know that that also is a factor that can drive an incremental trip into the store. But for the Zen only. I would say that there may have been some secondary impact on center of the store, but I think it would have been very small as those customers were in the store to buy nicotine anyway.

Yeah, and one thing to add to that, Irene, we talked about the temporal effects of the lottery and the nicotine promotion in the first half of the. We are reporting really strong Murphy only center of store activity in the first half of the year. So this, as Mindy says, this maintains that momentum. It offsets the temporal effects for the first half of the year. And when you look at it over any 12, 24 month period, it's a really steady cadence despite some lumpiness from quarter to quarter that we saw this year.

That's great. Thank you. And then coming back to the whole capital allocation discussion, I'm wondering what level of EBITDA or free cash flow underpins that $2 billion program if you want to keep your leverage at around two and a half times. Because if we kind of look at current consensus numbers and we assume that 50, 50, you know, the 2 billion implies about 400 million a year over five years, let's say. And it's a little, you're kind of getting a little tight there. Yeah.

So we'll lean into the balance sheet as we've talked about in 2627, with the cadence of the new stores and the expectations from those which are ahead of our projections in terms of returns, we expect that to turn the other side. So just like we did with the one and a half billion dollar program, we gave ourselves five years to do it. We're completing it in just a little over 3, giving ourselves 5 years to do the 2 billion at current equity prices. You know, we can see ourselves, you know, doing that quicker as well. So you're right, it gets a little tighter. We've always said we can go over two and a half times. Our covenants aren't hit until three times. Two and a half times is a longer term target that we expect to stay within. So if we bump above it for a short period of time to take advantage of some downward pressure, we'll absolutely lean into that in the balance sheet that we've established.

Your next question comes from the line of Puran Sharma with Stevens Inc. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Thanks for the questions and just, just wanted to, to say hey, congratulations, Andrew. I know we'll, we'll probably interact a few more times here, but wanted to say it's, it's been a pleasure working with you and, and wish you nothing but the best in the future.

Thanks.

Absolutely. My first question, maybe just for Mindy. Mindy, you've talked about how you've been with the company really from the beginning and I just maybe wanted to focus on your prior positions. I mean, I think you held the CFO role. You were put into the coo role. Can you maybe talk about how that kind of prepared you or how that has prepared you to take on the CEO role coming this new year?

Great question, and you're the first one that's asked me that. So I'll be thinking through my response here. I think I have a great background for this role. One I grew up in this business, so very familiar with our culture and the way that we do things and the way that we work through the CFO lens, especially at Spin, Andrew and I got to take this company public. And so we're taking public a company that existed within a subsidiary of a subsidiary of what used to be a fully integrated oil and gas company that was investment grade. So it kind of got to incubate under that environment in a very entrepreneurial way, which was fantastic. But obviously, when you think about taking something public, suddenly you need to have a lot of discipline. You need to have guardrails in place. You're now no longer investment grade. So every penny matters. Everything that wasn't material in that business before now suddenly became material. So that gave me a great basis for, you know, what does it take for a public company? What do we really need to care about? How do we manage our performance? How do we make commitments to our shareholders and keep those and at the same time balance our growth prospects and ambitions with maintaining a very solid and resilient balance sheet. So I think from the financial aspect, I had that pretty much down. I don't remember exactly what year it was that Andrew decided to add fuels to my CFO role. I want to say it was around 2017, 2018. And so that got me a real feel for one of the main engines of growth within this company. One of the main drivers of EBITDA Fuels, obviously a very complex department as well. And so that gave me some exposure to some of the more commercial aspects of the business, especially the main commercial aspects of our business. So I got to season in that for a while. But then when you think about, okay, what was missing, it was really that connection with the customer, because I had never done anything that was business to customer. It was only business to business from the commercial side. So bringing the COO role underneath me gave me one exposure to what we sell inside the store. So the merch category for the first time, but also a real understanding of the mission that we are serving for those value conscious customers, how much they really count on us to be able to get through their lives on a month by month basis. And so that experience really rounded me out because now I understand absolutely the financial discipline side, I understand the commercial aspect side, but I also understand that connection with the customer and also the connection with the staff that is actually serving that customer and how much we absolutely expect from them and how we need to make sure that whatever we do, we're simplifying their ability to serve our customers every day. So hope that answers your question. That was the first time anyone has ever asked me that. But I think that all three of those roles really did serve to round me out and prepare me in this journey to become CEO.

Yeah, no, absolutely. I appreciate the color there. I guess on my follow up maybe just wanted to focus on cost. I think in the past where, you know, following a peak margin environment, you've been known to focus on costs and take them out. And so with this, with this earnings release we saw a reduction in Store OPEX and SGNA and just wanted to get a sense of how much opportunity is there ahead. Do you see, you know, like a good amount of opportunity to take out cost in 2026 and in 2027 if you need to just want to get a sense of potential magnitude there.

Obviously this one time restructure was order of magnitude far above what we would be able to do in the future because this was intended to be kind of a one time reset of SG and a cost. But look, we're going to continue to optimize our business. So what you saw with this restructure we streamlined our operations to scale the business properly and to force us to do more with less. So we've now made us leaner, but I think now we're uncovering opportunities, identifying what are those other opportunities for automation, for consolidating resources where it makes sense to streamline the workflow, to look at some of the overlaps in the business where we're not as efficient as we could be. So now that we've become leaner, I think the next step is how do we get more efficient. And so I do think that there's more to come there and then we're going to continue to optimize the performance of our existing store network. I think we're off to a great start with our store productivity excellence initiative and other ones. And so we will continue to hold the line on cost. It's obviously really important now when the external macro environment for fuels is a bit of a challenge, but it also will reap benefits for us in the future when that does turn around and does normalize because we will be able to bank more of that extra margin. Because of the efforts and diligence that we're applying now. So do I think that it's going to be order of magnitude in a one time, one fell swoop what it was in this quarter? No, but there are certainly plenty of opportunities that we already do see and I'm sure we'll uncover new ones as we go forward.

Your next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Good morning buddy. Thanks for taking the questions. My congrats to both of you guys as well on the new roles. Andrew, it's been a pleasure to work with you and get to know you over the last years and Mindy, I look forward to continuing the relationship.

Thanks Bobby.

I guess first I wanted to circle back. It was, it was a common in both your guys prepared remarks and it's the nicotine promo CAGR over the last five years of I believe 12% which is pretty notable on a, on a five year basis. And during that time we start to see the evolution of the nicotine category with alternate nicotine. So I'm just kind of curious as you think about that type of environment over the next five years, what does the change of the category and the composition of the category with alternate nicotine due to that type of opportunity from promo dollars, is alternate nicotine going to, in your view be accretive to that, make it look even better or less or just kind of curious how you think about that changing of the category?

Absolutely, Bobbi. You know, we look at that as an opportunity because we own that customer, we know that customer better than anyone. And so again, just our knowledge and ownership of that customer, along with our ability to execute along with our loyalty program which majored in nicotine, we are ideally suited to help the manufacturers move those customers down the risk spectrum and incidentally moving them into what are higher margin products. So we would absolutely expect that to continue because they get a great roi. They know what they are getting when they invest in with us.

Yeah, you know Bobby, I think back over the last 13 years and you know, some of the things that have surprised me the most and you know, someone who pays attention to industry structure and how that influences, you know, performance and competition. I mean think about the tobacco category. It's a fairly concentrated industry amongst the manufacturers and you could put the packaged beverage companies in the same category. Yet the amount of innovation we've seen over the last decade is phenomenal from what you would expect to see in a concentrated industry. Right. So you're seeing this continuum of risk introduce new Products, you're seeing the different players making investments, some working, some not working as well, making acquisitions, some working, not working as well. And there's actually pretty good competition amongst those players. And as they introduce new products, new brands within those products, etc. Part of their go to market strategy has to be through retailers who can get their product in front of customers. And on the nicotine side, as Mindy noted, we're the only retailer in the space who intentionally built a loyalty platform around the nicotine category. And so the benefits that we're able to provide to these manufacturers who continue to innovate, which we are very thankful for, I think just going to continue to evolve. There's also a lot of upstarts in the category, right? So as others try to get a toehold into nicotine pouches where the top three players might control 90%, there's companies out there that want a shot and they just have to look at packaged beverage like energy drinks to see, well, Celsius was one of those small players and you know what, they finally got a toehold in the category. So there's a lot of Davids out there looking at the Goliaths. And they too realize the only way they can get the customer's attention is going to be through the broader capabilities we have, especially the store upselling capabilities because they're not going to get the preferred shelf space where the customer can see it in the back bar. They're going to get it because of the upselling. So I'm really excited about the future of these categories, but even more excited about our capabilities as we continue to hone them for both packaged beverage and nicotine providers. Very good, that's helpful.

And I guess lastly for me, when you think about the two cents that you guys reference, a margin on the the street to help drive volume and the potential of that going away where you could keep it or not have to do that, is that purely just a volatility pricing environment returns a quote unquote more normal or is there also a competition aspect in certain key markets for you guys that is basically independent of the underlying commodity environment? So that would actually have to behave differently too for you to be able to get those two cents back?

Polly? I would say yes and yes, kind of. So when I think about your first, your first scenario, it's really more a function of just this low price environment, especially given that we're sub $3 because prices do matter. People just for whatever reason are just not as price sensitive, are not willing to go across drive across town to save 2 cents a gallon when prices are below $3 versus above $3. So really the phenomenon that would need to change would be the overall price profile being higher with regard to competition. That obviously has an impact, especially in key markets where we're seeing competitive intrusion because really good competitors are going to act the same way that we do when we go into a new market, which is to price low to gain share. That's not actually irrational, that's a very rational thing to do. And what happens is when everybody gets their share, then everybody raises prices and plays nice. So over the sweep of time, that doesn't have an impact. But in certain key markets during certain months, absolutely. But we disrupt the market in the exact same way when we open our sites. So that's why I say yes and yes, kind of. Because yes, there will be a competitive response for those new to industry sites, but it only lasts for a few months, for just a short period of time.

And Bobby, the only 2 cents I would add there, no pun intended, is we've always seen competitive entry and I think what we're seeing now is just kind of more isolated in locales, as Mindy said, that dissipate. It's not like there's the big play like where Walmart rolled out so many neighborhood markets in a period and you saw that effect more at scale. I think another thing when we talk about peak to trough, fundamental difference between, you know, I would say kind of the low price trough we're in now versus the one post 2014 is when we had 16 cent all in margins and you had significantly lower margins after your variable cost. You know, putting a penny or two on the street was a significant, much more significant part of your available gross margin. And so if you go back to those periods, the volume impact that we witness, you know, is significantly more impactful than what we're seeing now. And so in this type of environment you can put 2 cents on the street because partly you're getting a couple of cents, you know, every year from the structural dynamic that happened then, but not at the same level of, you know, inflection. And at 30 cent margins, you know, the variable margin that's left is significantly greater. And so it's much more beneficial to maintain, you know, that volume, even if it's at 98, 99%, knowing in the higher price, more normalized environment, the customer goes back to their more normalized behavior and you get that back. So those are the kind of trade offs. And I'd say this trough we're Doing much better than the prior one for a whole set of reasons. But part of it is the fact that the higher structural margins we're enjoying allows us to make some different decisions with respect to price volume trade offs.

Due to time constraints. Our final question comes from the line of Jacob Aiken Phillips with Melius Research. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning everyone. I guess congrats is in order to all three of you given the next you take a new step in your professional journeys. So I guess to start off a little bit more on fuel, I'm curious the run up in early October, were you also putting a couple cents back on the street and can you give a little more color on what drove the increase in October then also the updated guidance seems to imply that you'll have positive fuel gallons and maybe positive same store fuel gallons in 4Q. So any thoughts generally on that?

Yeah, I'll take that question Jacob, thanks for your question. The tightness in the market was due to a refinery that was briefly offline for a week or two. But in a well supplied environment it all normalized. Pretty soon a pipeline was reversed in order to get product back up into the Midwest. And so it righted itself pretty quickly. But during the course of those couple of weeks that was literally the most sustained run up that we had seen in a while. So that allowed the market to completely restore, we restored with it which then allowed us to create some separation and essentially achieve some really nice margin and get 100% of our volume carrying that forward. I can't extrapolate that into the rest of the fourth quarter because we really haven't seen that yet. I was just giving that as an example of when we do see that happen we are able to respond. The market is also responding in the way that we would expect expect it to which will then allow us to create time periods in which we can get outside margin and as well as volume. But this past quarter was just essentially flat, which we've always said is the worst environment for us from a fuel standpoint. We did see some pickup in October. I hope we see it going into Thanksgiving. That would certainly be nice to carry some high margins over the holiday period. But not ready to extrapolate for the rest of the quarter that we're going to be at 100% of last year's volume.

Got it. That's helpful. And then started asking another question on capital allocation. But you reaffirmed the 5050 and the share buybacks and increase the dividend. I'm just curious. It seems like you're trying to accelerate new store growth to 50 plus next year, maybe some accelerated R&Rs and perhaps some other remodels or other smaller projects. So I'm just curious how we should think about CapEx next year and if that number is elevated, should we expect repo to be up or is that more balanced over the next few years?

So we haven't given our CapEx guidance for next year and we're finalizing our plan on that. Certainly as part of our ramp to get to the 50, you know, this year we had, you know, real estate that goes into that. You know, so one of the things we're clearly looking at is the trade off between more raising rebuilds versus remodels and maintenance programs. We do expect, you know, significant bonus depreciation benefits from one big beautiful bill that can actually address a lot of that incremental capital that we're talking about and using those tax benefits for, you know, reinvestment. And as we said on the share repurchase, we'll continue to be disciplined and also opportunistic on that, given we've got the balance sheet we can lean into, you know, should, you know, we want to take advantage of particular opportunities. So, you know, we look at this like anything over, you know, a three to five year period, you know, not just the next 12 month period. And, you know, that's why we remain, you know, very bullish about the business as we think about where we're going to be, you know, 28 to 2030, where we, you know, view the fuel margins to have normalized, where we look at our store count, where we look at EBITDA and look where the outstanding share count is. So we expect to see, you know, attractive returns both on new stores, the reinvestment capital as well as the share repo over that period. And we'll be back, actually, Mindy will be back in February with guidance for 2026, which will include that capital. So I think this wraps up today's call. I've enjoyed these earnings calls. I talked to CEO peers. They kind of, you know, speak to, oh my gosh, we got our earnings call coming up or we've got the investor meetings or whatever. Spending time with the analysts and investors has been one of the most fun parts of this job. We've had an incredible story to tell. We've had incredible people to tell the story with. We have an incredible talented group of team members that actually live the story where we get to be the chief storytellers. And we're really proud of that, but also the capital allocation discipline that we know investors care about. And I think this message, coupled with continuity of leadership with Mindy succeeding me and clearly knowing the business and the people and the team and how we create value and our capital allocation approach positions this company in excellent shape for the near term as well as the longer term. I look forward to seeing some of you on the road or one on one calls as we kind of wrap up some year end investor discussions. And thank you again for supporting Murph USA and me as CEO during this tenure. Thank you very much.

Ladies and gentlemen. That concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.