FrontView REIT reports strong Q3 2025 results, raises AFFO guidance amid strategic portfolio optimization and new capital for growth.
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- FrontView REIT reported a transformative and strong third quarter, highlighting the acquisition of three properties for $15.8 million and the sale of 15 properties for $32.9 million.
- The company maintained a low-leverage balance sheet, improved portfolio occupancy to over 98%, and resolved previously reported troubled assets with a high recovery rate.
- FrontView REIT announced a $75 million convertible preferred equity investment, aiming to fund net acquisitions through 2026, supporting accretive growth.
- The company's future outlook includes raising earnings guidance for the year and expecting AFFO per share growth of 3.2% for 2026, driven by strategic acquisitions and portfolio optimization.
- Management emphasized a focus on smaller, necessity-driven retail and service tenancies, maintaining a diversified tenant base and a conservative dividend payout ratio.
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OPERATOR - (00:01:18)
Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the FrontView REIT's Q3 2025 earnings call at this time line is in listen-only mode. Following the presentation we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star. Zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, November 13, 2025. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Pierre Vol, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead sir.
Pierre Vol - Chief Financial Officer - (00:01:49)
Thank you Operator and thank you everyone for joining us for FrontView REIT's third quarter 2025 earnings call. I will be joined on the call by Steve Preston, Chairman and CEO. Drew Ireland, our Chief Operating Officer will be available for Q and A. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that this presentation contains forward looking statements. Although we believe these forward looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, they are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially when those anticipated due to a number of factors. I refer you to the Safe harbor statement and our most recent filings with the SEC for a detailed discussion of the risk factors relating to these forward looking statements. This presentation also contains certain non GAAP Financial metrics Reconciliation of Non GAAP Financial Metrics the most directly comparable GAAP metrics are included in the exhibits furnished to the SEC under Form 8-K to include our earnings release, supplemental package and investor presentation. We have also furnished a press release and 8-K for the $75 million convertible preferred equity investment. These materials are available on the Investor Relations page of our company's website. With that, I'm now pleased to introduce Steve Preston. Steve Great.
Steve Preston - Chairman and CEO - (00:03:08)
Thank you Pierre and good morning everyone. I'm very pleased to talk about our third quarter today as it marks a powerful transformative quarter for the company. As a reminder, our portfolio is built around smaller, highly fungible net lease assets typically located in front of major retail nodes across the country. This real estate positioning gives our tenants visibility, traffic and staying power, which is why we emphasize frontage. The format of these properties makes them easier to recycle, retenant or reposition quickly and that flexibility is an important part of our strategy. Our tenant phase is broad and generally necessity and service oriented, allowing for consistent demand through the phases of economic cycles. Today we have 323 leases with the top 10 contributing just 24% of Annual Base Rent (ABR), our top 60 contributing 74% of ABR and our largest tenant and only contributes 3.6% of ABR. That diversification is a real strength. Just as important, this approach is unique in the public REIT market as few peers are focused on small format, necessity driven retail and service tenancies. FrontView REIT has now been public for just over one year. Over these last 12 months we have experienced and worked through a number of circumstances that have made FrontView REIT a stronger company today. To highlight, we have optimized our portfolio. We have an effective C suite with industry leading talent. We have been intelligent stewards of capital. We have kept a low levered balance sheet with ample liquidity. We have demonstrated the value, fungibility and desirability of our frontage assets. We have focused on operational excellence to support increased AFFO per share guidance, all while recycling assets. We have thoroughly revamped our external materials including our investor presentation supplemental and website. We have shown through dispositions that there is currently a significant dislocation in our share price relative to navigation. We have maintained a conservative dividend payout ratio and finally, we have carefully tailored a perpetual preferred equity investment to have capital in place to accretively grow throughout 2026. I am excited for what lies ahead for Frontview as a public company. During the third quarter we acquired three properties for approximately 15.8 million at an average cap rate of 7.5% with a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 11 years. From an industry perspective, we continue to add diversification, adding financial fitness and discount retail uses. There were several acquisitions planned for the third quarter that shifted into the fourth quarter. As reflected in our guidance. The acquisition market remains very open to FrontView REIT with our competitive advantages in tow, so our timing and securing this accretive capital is particularly well suited to continue to take advantage of our buy side opportunities within the marketplace. In terms of property dispositions, we sold 15 properties for 32.9 million during the quarter. Thirteen were occupied properties generating proceeds of 30.1 million at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.78%. These properties had an average weighted lease term of eight years. Our current target dispositions are assets with lower walts and or less optimal concepts. For example, through our recent dispositions we have eliminated all portfolio exposure to the following Ruby Tuesday, Red Lobster,, Bob Evans, Red Robin, Freddy's, Denny's, Dairy Queen, Hardee's, Cafe Rio and Razzoo's. Although these concepts are household name, national or regional tenants that were rent paying, we are focused on optimizing the portfolio by disposing of concepts that we think are or could become under pressure in the future. These asset sales demonstrate the continued desirability and liquidity of our real estate assets and highlight the meaningful spread between our stock's implied cap rate approximately 9% and where our assets are transacting in the market where our peers implied cap rates are both of which approximately 6.75%. Looking at net investment levels, we were again net sellers this quarter and our debt to annualized adjusted Ebitdar fell to 5.3 times with an LTV below 35%, leaving the company's balance sheet profile and liquidity in fantastic shape. Turning to the portfolio, we closed the quarter with occupancy north of 98% and just six vacant assets, an improvement from last quarter. We have resolved the 12 previous reported troubled assets with 10 either sold or leased and one under contract to sell with an overall recovery rate of approximately 85% for these 11 assets. Additionally, assets being broadly highlighted in the media, Tricolor's alleged fraud impacted several large financial institutions with losses in the hundreds of millions. We had one Tricolor property and we have already received multiple offers to buy and multiple offers to lease the property and based upon these prospects we are confident we will have an excellent outcome with minimal downtime and affirmation of our frontage based strategy. Our assets are located in high visibility, high traffic corridors, properties that attract a diverse mix of users that allows us when necessary to retenant, repurpose or sell efficiently to unlock value. As we've optimized the portfolio, what remains is a higher quality, better tenanted portfolio with stronger concepts. As a result, we don't see any material additions to our watch list at this point and to be clear, we see bad debt in the approximately 50 basis point range for 2026 more in line with historical averages. Simply put, this is what disciplined capital allocation and active portfolio management look like. A stronger, higher quality platform positioned for sustainable growth, resulting in us raising our earnings guidance for the year. On the capital side, last night we announced a $75 million convertible preferred equity investment. This is a bespoke instrument that we spent a considerable amount of time negotiating over the last couple of months. Pierre will provide more of the details on specifics, but from a bigger picture strategy standpoint, this security is unique in its simplicity with generally superior terms to that of comparable instruments. 1. We anticipate the preferred will fund our 2026 net acquisitions. 2. The capital is accretive when deployed. 3. We can draw down capital in tranches over time as we acquire assets without paying any penalties or expensive carrying costs. 4. Transaction costs are well below market. 5. After two years we have the ability to force convert the preferred to equity at a $17 conversion rate if the shares are trading at a 17.5% premium. 6 the security is open for repayment after three years at par 7. There are no make whole provisions and finally there are no onerous governance requirements. This capital raise was led by Maywin Capital Partners and its founder Charles Fitzgerald. Charles has nearly three decades of public markets investing experience including founding B3 Capital, and co-managing REIT portfolios at Highrise and J.P. Morgan. Charles is joining our board as part of this investment. Maywin also owns just under 1 million shares of common stock, roughly 3.4% of the fully diluted shares. That alignment with both common and preferred capital at work has a level of discipline and capital allocation focus that should benefit all shareholders to wrap up I believe that FrontView REIT is stronger today than at any point since our ipo. We have a portfolio with flexibility, a top tier management team with deep industry experience and a balance sheet that positions us for growth. Our goal is straightforward to continue to build a best in class net lease REIT that can grow faster, allocate capital smarter and maximize shareholder returns. Today's valuation gives investors an opportunity to invest in our company at a price well below today's standalone asset values and certainly the valuation does not properly reflect the quality of what we've built or the growth and opportunity ahead. With that, I'll turn the call to Pierre to go through the quarterly numbers and guidance.
Pierre Vol - Chief Financial Officer - (00:12:31)
Pierre thank you Steve. As part of this quarter's release, we introduced several enhanced disclosures within our investor presentation designed to give investors deeper insights into the quality and productivity of our real estate. These include detailed disclosures of our assets across the top 100 MSAs Placer.ai visitation rankings highlighting property productivity and historical recapture performance. We have also refreshed our company website to include a portfolio level page to view 100% of the concepts by city and state, underscoring the visibility and quality of our footprint. Turning to the quarter annualized base rent was 61.3 million as of September 30 compared to 63.2 million at June 30. The decrease in ABR primarily reflects the company being a net seller of assets during the quarter with 32.9 million of dispositions and 15.7 million of acquisitions. Excluding the tricolor property which vacated post quarter, ABR would have been 60.7 million which serves as a solid baseline for modeling the fourth quarter. Total cash rental income totaled 15.4 million compared to 15.7 million last quarter which included 73,000 of variable rent. Our non reimbursed property cost or slippage was 405,000, slightly better than expectations of 500,000 helped by the dispositions in the quarter. On the expense side, Cash GNA was 2.1 million and 6.3 million year to date with no adjustment to our cash DNA guidance of approximately 8.9 million. At the midpoint quarterly cash interest expense declined by 100,000 sequentially to 4.2 million, driven by a 21.2 million reduction in net debt to 288.9 million. In September and October we also completed two amendments to our credit agreements with both the revolver and the term loan. These amendments removed the 10 basis point SOFR adjustment and improved our pricing grid for LTVs below 35%, producing an expected 15 basis point savings across all our debt upon submission of our Q3 Covenant package this week. Additionally, in early September we hedged an incremental 100 million of one month SOFR exposure through March of 2028, further reducing rig volatility. Turning to the balance sheet, net debt to adjusted EBITDA re reduced by 0.2 times to 5.3 times. That's the lowest leverage since the IPO LTV of 33%. Based on our bank covenants, our fixed charge coverage ratio remained at 3.3 times with 100% of our assets unencumbered the end of the quarter. With 1.61.1 million of liquidity including 141.5 million, of undrawn revolver capacity and 19.6 million of cash and equivalents. Including the recently closed delayed draw convertible preferred equity, our total liquidity increases to 236.1 million. As a brief housekeeping note, having passed the one year mark since our IPO front view is now self eligible, we will be filing the S3 registration statement shortly and once accepted you'll request authorization for a $75 million ATM program. Additionally, we have received board authorization to repurchase up to 75 million in shares providing us with flexible tools for future capital margins activity. As Steve mentioned, our announced 75 million convertible preferred equity investment provides long term growth capital with near term accretion. This security carries a 6.75% dividend rate and a $17 conversion price. No make old penalties and no restricted governance features. The structure allows us to draw capital entrances as acquisitions close, making each draw cash flow accretive on a converted basis. The effective cost of equity net of FEES is approximately 7.5% and with modest leverage. Our weighted average cost of capital is in the mid to high 6% range. We anticipate using the equity capital to acquire 100 million of assets netted dispositions Currently we are making conservative assumptions on the cash cap rates of acquisitions 7.25% versus our existing pipeline which ranges from 7.25% to 7.75%. Once the capital is deployed, it will drive 3% annualized AFFO per share accretion utilizing modest leverage of 25%. This accretive equity positions us to capitalize on a compelling acquisition environment and to deliver sustained AFFO per share growth supported by our nimble scale access to granular frontage assets and disciplined capital deployment in a fragmented market. Turning to 2025 guidance for the full year we expect acquisitions to range between 115 million to 125 million and dispositions to range between 70 million to 80. Million for the fourth quarter. At the midpoint, this implies 37 million of acquisitions and 17 million dispositions. Our AFFO per share guidance range increased by $0.01 to $1.23 to $1.25. We expect approximately $0.30 in AFFO per share in the fourth quarter. That's primarily a function of timing as the dispositions were more heavily weighted towards September while the acquisitions are anticipated to close towards the end of the year. Looking ahead, when we exit December, our run rate AFFO per share would be slightly above 31 cents including the full impact of acquisitions and dispositions for the third and fourth quarter and this includes no NOI for Tricolor asset that Steve discussed earlier. Turning to 2026 with the preferred equity capital secured, we expect approximately $100 million in net acquisitions driving AFFO per share range of $1.26 to $1.30. This represents 3.2% year over year growth at the midpoint and compared to $1.24. We believe this acquisition pace is highly achievable and once fully deployed will expand our asset base by more than 10%. Our results reflect the power of disciplined execution. Over the past quarter we've enhanced transparency across our disclosures, strengthened our balance sheet and secured long term accretive equity capital all to support sustained earnings and portfolio growth. With a high quality real estate portfolio and a flexible capital structure, frontview is positioned to compound AFFO per share growth faster than peers. Our smaller scale is a structural advantage as it allows us to move with precision and capitalize on opportunities in frontage retail real estate where we continue to see strong fundamentals and high demand. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to open it up for Q and A. Operator.
OPERATOR - (00:19:50)
Thank you Mr. Pierre Vol. Ladies and gentlemen, we now begin the question and answer session if you'd like to ask a question, please press Star follow up with number one on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered, you'd like to withdraw from the queue, please press Star Follow up number two. We ask analysts to limit themselves to one question and a follow up. And if you're using a speaker phone, please lift your hands before pressing any keys. One moment, please, while we compile the roster. The first question comes from Anthony Blone with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Anthony Blone - Equity Analyst - (00:20:19)
Great, thank you. First question relates to 2026. Can you just give us a little bit more on. You mentioned it sounds like Tricolor is kind of out and maybe it gets backfilled, but Also just with 20 lease expirations next year. Kind of just what's on the organic sort of core portfolio side you have factored into the guide. Hey, Tony, thanks for the question. Good to hear from you. In terms of the guidance, it's pretty simple. As we exited this year at $0.31 roughly with all the averages and dispositions, that annualizes to $1.24. And as mentioned, it doesn't include any income from Tricolor. We do expect a recovery. Hopefully we'll be able to provide an update that will be a little bit better depending on how the resolution ends up happening. We anticipate zero equity. We have fully funded with this new, with this new capital deployment. And that's really what's primarily driving in terms of expirations. We're ahead of all of that. And I can let Steve talk about our expiration schedule.
Pierre Vol - Chief Financial Officer - (00:21:27)
Yeah, sure. Thanks, Pierre. And yeah, Tony, you know, we've viewed the expirations historically as a positive and just remember that, you know, we do have quality real estate. It's desirable, it's a fungible portfolio and, you know, we maintain excellent diversification. What I would say is that since 2016, some data points, we have had 49 lease expirations with only eight expiring, 41 of those renewed to the same tenant, three renewed to a different tenant, and that represented about 105% recovery rate with, you know, five that have been sold or are working to be sold off. Two sold, one under contract and two underway. So, you know, we look forward and we see that the renewals are an asset to bolster income based on historicals.
Anthony Blone - Equity Analyst - (00:22:18)
Okay, thanks. And then just follow up is if you can just describe kind of your deal pipeline and where cap rates are trending and just, you know, kind of how, you know, how the pipeline's coming along now that you have the capital, do you have a lot to spend it on?
Steve Preston - Chairman and CEO - (00:22:39)
Sure. Great. Good question. Thanks, Tony. Yeah, I'd say that the market for us continues to be fluid. We expect cap rates for Q4, to come in similar to Q3,, somewhere in that 7.5% cap rate range. I think we've all seen increased institutional interest in net lease with abundant capital available for acquisitions, and that's really significant, setting a tone for the marketplace. What I would say is importantly, we typically do not compete against the institutions in our marketplace just due to our property size. So that gives us a bit of that competitive advantage. Now, for those smaller buyers, leverage just has opened up a little bit. It is a little bit easier for some of the smaller buyers to obtain lending from community banks, et cetera, but we still see lots of opportunity. We've got a strong pipeline, similar assets that we've acquired along the way, and we certainly can increase the pace of acquisitions at any given time. And just remember back in Q4,, almost about a year ago, with the existing team that we had in place, we acquired a little over $100 million in acquisitions. So we do have that capacity, we do have the team in place and we do have the relationships to turn on that faucet if we need to.
Anthony Blone - Equity Analyst - (00:23:55)
Okay, thank you.
OPERATOR - (00:23:58)
Thank you. Your next question comes from Jean Kiellikowski with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Jean Kiellikowski - Equity Analyst - (00:24:03)
Hi, good morning. Thank you. Maybe if we could start back on the guide, you you provided some helpful color around cap rates and credit loss. Could you talk to maybe what the. High end and low end for the guide represents on each of those metrics and if there's any other color you could give around what helps formulate your guidance?
Pierre Vol - Chief Financial Officer - (00:24:23)
Sure. John, good to hear from you. So in terms of the low end at $1.26, it's really about the timing of the deployment of the capital. So we set an investment guidance of 100 million next year, and it really depends on how quickly we deploy it. We do have some dispositions as well in our guidance next year, and so we'll continue to do some asset recycling. But on the low end, the way to think about a $0.31 run rate, $1.24. We do think that this is, this is a accretive at least to 2 cents. I feel very comfortable at $1.26. Even if we deploy the capital a little bit later on the high end, what would really drive that is a little bit, a little bit of a favorable resolutions on any sort of credit issues and earlier acquisitions, higher cap rates. And that would be the predominant drivers between the low end and higher.
Jean Kiellikowski - Equity Analyst - (00:25:16)
Okay, very helpful. And then maybe if we could just. Jump to the preferred. It looks like great execution here. Just kind of curious if you can. Get some color on the relationship with Maywin you know how you got to this number. I think the, the street would have guessed something a little bit higher. So, you know, great job on your execution. Part, but just curious how you got. To these terms and, you know, what the relationship was that got you here.
Pierre Vol - Chief Financial Officer - (00:25:41)
Sure. So we've known Maywin Capital Partners and Charles Fitzgerald for a while. He's been an investor and a good partner since the beginning, since the ipo. I worked with Charles Prior when I was at Spirit, so I knew him from that point as well. We sat with him, we met with him multiple times, and we were discussing price and cap rates. And ultimately, just to steal a line from one of our colleagues, Sheikh Mitra,, he said, we're in early stages of a long journey of delivering compounding per share cash flow growth for our existing shareholders. And that's our North Star. And I'd agree with this statement. And I think that is what we're trying to do here. We're trying to create a vehicle to get us back to growth. This is accretive per share capital growth that we think will drive a higher valuation. He understood that. He thinks that with his portfolio that he completely underwrote and he completely understood our business plan and was extremely supportive of giving us this capital and understanding that at $17, it was very attractive for him as an equity capital. For us it makes sense to issue it so we're fully funded and we can get back to growth. Because given our size, which I do believe is a structural advantage in net lease, especially when you consider that 98% of net lease market cap is trading above NAV. Having a small size allows us to deliver faster growth than all of our peers. We just have to get there. And I believe this is the first key step to do it.
Jean Kiellikowski - Equity Analyst - (00:27:14)
Great, thank you.
OPERATOR - (00:27:17)
Thank you. Your next question comes from Janet Gallon with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Thank you. Good morning and congrats on a nice quarter. Thinking about the dispositions you made this year, you kind of leaned away from casual dining. Just curious on that 50bps of bad debt in 2026, could it potentially be better than that given that the portfolio composition is different than the historical?
Janet Gallon - Equity Analyst - (00:27:46)
Yeah, no, I think that's, that's a good question. And I think we feel like that's a conservative measure at this point. And selling out the concepts that we, we mentioned before really did help to optimize the portfolio. And we're going to continue to optimize the portfolio with select dispositions, moving into 2026. And then maybe just more color on what categories that you're looking to expand in. You mentioned kind of this quarter, financial, fitness and discount retail.
Steve Preston - Chairman and CEO - (00:28:18)
Yeah, no, I mean it's, you know, we still like the same type of industries that we've been buying in. We like medical, we like financial, we like automotive service. We don't have any veterinarian. We look closely at, you know, acquiring or adding that as a concept. You know, I think fitness, you know, seems to be strong. Fitness is back to Covid or pre Covid levels. You know, class concepts getting added to some of the larger formats has been, you know, taken on well and then certainly, you know, qsr we still like that. I mean Taco Bell still has, you know, their sales are, their sales are up with traffic, notwithstanding the consumer and just a little bit of fast casual. So similar industries as we continue to go, we're going to be careful with pharmacy, careful with car wash and certainly certain restaurants, as you've noticed, and concepts that are a little bit tired and certainly, of course, you know, small franchisee credit.
OPERATOR - (00:29:12)
Thank you. Thank you. Your next question comes from Ronald Cumden with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Ronald Cumden - Equity Analyst - (00:29:20)
Hey, just a quick follow up on the pipeline. Maybe just talk through sort of whether. it's Walt or escalators, how you're thinking about those assets and then the 40. Basis points escalator on the acquisition, which I know is small, just what happened there. Thanks.
Steve Preston - Chairman and CEO - (00:29:35)
Yeah, no, I think the 40 basis points was just the timing. You know, we had some assets that got pushed. A bulk of them got pushed into Q4. So I think when you see Q3 come together with Q4, you'll be a little bit more normalized with our typically 1 to 2% escalators. Of course, when we're acquiring assets, you know, having escalators built in is a key component. So focusing on, you know, longer term walls to continue to, to build our weighted average lease term and then also to continue to have those embedded rent bumps are of course critical to our acquisition criteria. And then my, my quick follow up on, on the pref.
Ronald Cumden - Equity Analyst - (00:30:11)
Just can you remind us where that. Gets to in 26, just what that. Level set, the EBITDA that ends up. Getting you to, if you include that. Thanks.
Pierre Vol - Chief Financial Officer - (00:30:21)
So as we ended this quarter, I thought one of the key priorities for us was to enter the end of this year at a very low leverage point. So at 5.3 times, to me, that's a very productive print. Along with being able to increase our acquisition, increase our AFFO per share guidance. When we think about using the pref, which I do view as equity, and it's 100% equity from how our account is treated, it's going to effectively lower our leverage because we're going to be funding it at a bit lower rate than the 60 40, more like 25 75. Now, we do have some acquisitions baked in the back half this year in terms of the guidance. So we do expect leverage to tick up into the fourth quarter, but after that it will stay well below six call of next year. Helpful.
OPERATOR - (00:31:11)
Thank you. Thank you. Your next question comes from Daniel Guglielmi with Capital One Securities.. Please go ahead. Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. Although you've been in a bit of a holding pattern on acquisitions, I know you remain engaged with the brokers across the country. So over these past few quarters, which states or regions have you seen kind of these frontage out parcel properties that you focus on come up for sale? Is there anything there?
Daniel Guglielmi - (00:31:45)
Yeah, I don't think there's anything state specific from the marketplace. I think we're going to continue to target strong growth states. We're going to probably start to maybe reduce exposure just because we have a little bit more, more of that in Illinois. But the general marketplace, there's general opportunity really across the space and across states. I wouldn't think it's really anything state specific. And I think we'll generally follow, call it that same progression of assets that we've acquired throughout the portfolio. Great, thank you. And then you touched on it in an earlier question, but the portfolio occupancy has improved sequentially over the last three quarters. Can you just talk about are there any kind of industry mixes where you've seen something new this quarter? Maybe areas where Drew and team are spending more time with tenants to understand their needs and consumer patterns?
Steve Preston - Chairman and CEO - (00:32:38)
Yeah, I'd say that, you know, by optimizing the portfolio and taking out some of those concepts that we mentioned earlier, I think that's that certainly helped the way that we look at the portfolio going forward. Forward. And that 50 basis points, you know, isn't a ton of action at the end of the day. So the good news is, and we'll keep the fingers crossed, but we seem to be a little bit quiet there right now and we hope that continues.
OPERATOR - (00:33:05)
Great, thank you. Thank you, Daniel. There are no further questions on the phone lines. I will turn it back to Steve Preston for some closing remarks.
Steve Preston - Chairman and CEO - (00:33:17)
Great. Thank you and thank you all for joining. We look forward to continuing to add value for the shareholders and we hope to see you all at NAREIT, in December or at our upcoming NDR with Bank of America. Thank you again for your time and please be safe.
OPERATOR - (00:33:33)
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day.
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