Blackstone Secured maintains robust dividend coverage and low non-accruals as deal activity accelerates amid improving market conditions

OPERATOR - (00:00:57)

Please stand by. The conference will begin shortly. Good day and welcome to the Blackstone Secured Lending third quarter 2025 investor call. Today's call is being recorded at this time. All participants are in a listen only mode. If you require operator assistance, please press Star 0. If you'd like to ask a question, please Signal by pressing Star 1. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Stacy Wong, Head of Stakeholder Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Katie - (00:02:11)

Katie Good morning and welcome to Blackstone Secured Lending Fund third Quarter Conference Call. Joining me today are Brad Marshall, Co Chief Executive Officer, Jonathan Bok, Co Chief Executive Officer, Carlos Whitaker, President Teddy Laloch, Chief Financial Officer and other members of the management team. Earlier today we issued a press release with presentation of our results and filed our 10Q, both of which are available on the Shareholder Resources section of our website www.BXSL.com. we will be referring to that presentation throughout today's call. I'd like to remind you that this call may include forward looking statements which are uncertain, outside of the firm's control and may differ materially from actual results. We do not undertake any duty to update these statements. For some of the risks that could affect results, please see the Risk Factors section of our Form 10Q filed earlier today. This This call is copyright material Blackstone and may not be duplicated without consent. With that, I'll turn the call over to Brad Marshall.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:03:10)

Great. Thank you Stacy and thanks for joining our third quarter earnings call. I will begin with some thoughts on the current environment and our views heading into year end. Last quarter we addressed the positive trends re emerging with markets opening back up, equities hitting all time highs and inflation staying muted. Now we believe we can keep capitalizing on a few key themes that may continue to yield returns for our investors. Firstly, deal activity has continued to accelerate which is consistent with what we have seen in past periods when cost of capital starts to come down and valuations improve in part as a result of increased deal activity, leverage in Blackstone Secured Lending ended at 1.22 times after averaging close to 1.15 times for the quarter. Secondly, despite falling base rates during the quarter, we saw new deals at an average spread of 544 basis points over the base rate inclusive of amortization of OID to maturity and total fundings during the quarter averaging 556 basis points above the base rate. The majority of each of which were first lien. Lastly, overall we saw stable underlying fundamentals and growth in our portfolio with the majority of the assets flat or marked higher in the quarter. Non accruals dropped to 0.1% at cost, remaining the lowest among our traded BDC peers. Despite all these positive trends, there have been external narratives around bubbles and rising default across the credit markets. What we are seeing on the ground and across over 300 credits we are invested in is in direct contrast. Firstly, as mentioned earlier, M&A activity is picking up. In fact as of the third quarter it is up 63% year over year. Consistent with what we discussed with all of you regarding our expectations at the start of the year and with more companies choosing to fund this M and A with private capital, this has helped our ongoing growth. Further, there is about five times more dry powder in North America private equity vehicles than private credit origination dry powder representing a healthy potential backlog of demand for private credit solutions as it relates to defaults and in particular First Brands and Tricolor. I think it is reasonably well established now that these were in fact not private credit transactions. They were bank originated, bank underwritten and bank distributed deals. However, it's worth noting two things. One, defaults are in fact declining in the leveraged loan and high Yield markets down 37% year to date this year from 2023 and 24% in 2024, demonstrating that despite well publicized defaults, the default trends in the indices have improved. Second, defaults do occur from time to time across both the public and private markets. Knowing this is why we have continued to feel very confident in our approach to investing by focusing on first lien senior secret loans with large sponsor backed companies across sectors we believe have good long term tailwinds. In our view these companies are better able to navigate market changes inclusive of the fast pace of change driven by AI. These companies are generally more strategic because of their scale. These companies tend to attract and maintain high quality management teams and ownership groups. Our experience is supportive of this thesis. In direct lending, the BXSL has experienced annualized realized losses of only 1/10 of 1%, including through the global financial crisis. Being part of Blackstone allows us to navigate and leverage the full bandwidth of the firm to maximize value in the event of default, which is something we are quite proud of. So as we put all of that together and what we view going forward, we expect to see deal activity staying active, asset turnover picking up spreads remaining attractive when compared to traditional fixed income and credit quality remaining fairly steady across the portfolio. Turning to slide four to highlight this, the XSL reported another strong quarter with with our net investment income or Nai of $0.82 per share representing a 12% annualized return on equity made up overwhelmingly of interest income rather than income from PIC or dividends or fees. We believe the quality of Blackstone Secured Lending's income has historically created a robust income stream for our investors. NAV per share decreased by $0.18 quarter over quarter to $27.15 due to markdowns that Teddy will discuss Shortly. Our distribution of 77 cents per share was 106% covered by our net investment income per share and represents an 11.3% annualized distribution yield, one of the highest among those of our traded BDC peers with similar levels of first lien senior secured assets. Finally, as mentioned earlier, we believe credit quality remains strong 0.1% of investments on non accrual at both cost and fair market value. We had no new names added to the non accrual list this quarter. Moving to Slide five We've continued to prepare ourselves for what we believe may be a period of heightened deal activity focusing both on our existing portfolio companies and new assets. Despite lower base rates, private credit premium relative to leveraged loans in the liquid market has endured. We collaborate with teams across the firm to identify new opportunities and key investment trends and right now we believe we are in a re industrialization with AI that will require significant ongoing insights and capital solutions. You will hear from Carlos on this later, but we integrate AI considerations into our disciplined investment process searching for larger businesses, mission critical products, high recurring revenue and senior secured positions. We believe we are well resourced to understand and underwrite the fast paced change that AI is driving and the impact this will have on companies and investments. We saw a 20% increase in new BXSL global private deal screenings this past quarter versus the third quarter of last year. And while not every BXSL deal that comes through BXEI screening is suitable for investments by BXSL, this is consistent with our general view from last year that deal activity would pick up meaningfully throughout 2025. Deployment for the quarter surpassed a billion dollars and was up 90% compared to the second quarter. We believe the drivers of this growth are both more macro clarity for the US economy and lower base rates. We seek to continue our disciplined approach and use our cost advantage to focus on quality borrowers, not reach for risk and deliver returns for our shareholders. With that I will pass it over to my colleague Jonathan.

Jonathan Bok - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:10:41)

Thank you Bradley. Let's turn to Slide 6. We ended the quarter with $13.8 billion of investments at fair value over a 15% increase year over year from $12 billion in 3Q alone. BXSL also added 22 new borrowers to our portfolio by exiting six positions, netting a total of 311 companies ending leverage and average leverage kicked up compared to prior quarter at 1.22 times and 1.15 times respectively, remaining in our target range between 1 to 1.25 times. Our weighted average yield on performing debt investments at Fair value was 10% this quarter, down from 10.2% last quarter. The yields on new debt investment fundings and assets sold and repaid during the quarter averaged 9.3 and 9.9% respectively. Turn to Slide 7 Nearly 98% of BXSL investments are in first lien senior second secured loans and nearly 99% of those are to companies owned by financial sponsors that generally have significant equity value in these capital structures demonstrated by an average loan to value of 49.7%. Our portfolio also has LTM EBITDA base averaging nearly $221 million with year over year EBITDA growth of nearly 9%. This growth percentage is well above that of companies in the Lincoln International Private Market Database for last quarter. Although we've evaluated opportunities across the size spectrum as evidenced by our investment this year, we've seen continued strength of performance from larger companies relative to their smaller EBITDA counterparts in terms of higher growth and lower defaults, and we believe this trend may continue given the Fed's latest rate cut announcement. We can see how investing in larger companies affects interest coverage BXSL's portfolio companies average interest coverage based on LTM EBITDA was 2 times in 3Q and looking at the share of private portfolio assets below 1 times interest coverage when you exclude recurring revenue loans, BXSL is at 7% of fair value which compares favorably to the Lincoln data based for the broader private credit market at 10%. Now turn to slide 8 which focuses on our industry exposure. Recall, we focused on domestic businesses in less capital intensive sectors with our highest exposures in the software, healthcare providers and services and professional services industries. This quarter, 99% of the private debt investments into new portfolio companies were first lien senior secured positions with average LTVs below 45, meaning there's significant amount of capital beneath our loans. And our relentless focus on first lien senior secured debt in historically low default rate industries is what we view as a defensive position for investors to be in. But how does that translate into returns? Over the last 12 months we generated a 12% net investment income return. This was well above our 11.3% dividend yield on NAV during the same time period and above the weighted average NIi return of 10.7% for a traded BD peers for the 12 months into June 30, 2025. Now importantly, we've continued over earning our distribution even in more competitive tighter spread environment. Further, we believe dispersion among managers continues to be evident. You can see this by looking at various portfolio metrics. Compared to the weighted average of our traded BDC peers in 2Q, our non accrual rates 0.1% at cost compares favorably to 2.9% for peers. Our pick as a percentage of total income at 8.2% compares favorably to 11.3% for peers and our stressed debt investments marked below 80 at cost is approximately 0.9% compared to 4.1% for the peer average. Now conclude with some points on our documents and recent amendment activity and as a reminder, when we negotiate our credit agreements, especially as a leading lender, we place a significant focus on control and important document protections and we've remained consistent in this approach. And if you take a look at our recent amendments, Q3 was largely similar to Q2 activity with the majority of amendments associated with add ons, ma, DDTL extensions and immaterial technical matters or slight changes to terms. And with that I'll turn it over.

Carlos Whitaker - President - (00:15:23)

To my colleague Carlos. Thanks john. Turn to Slide 9 BXSL maintained its dividend distribution of $0.77 per share as we remain focused on delivering high quality yield to shareholders, we continue to believe BXSL's portfolio strength is owed to the scale and platform of Blackstone and bxci, and we have used this to our advantage as we have expanded our book. Take for instance, our view on AI. Blackstone made an early call on the importance of AI and we believe BXSL has been at the forefront of adapting this into our portfolio. We consider AI as we evaluate investments and use Blackstone resources including Blackstone Technology Investments, the Blackstone Operating Team and BX Data Science to help evaluate AI related opportunities and support portfolio companies in adapting to change. And while BXSL has a larger concentration in software than other industries, our AI lens expands to our investments in health care technology, health care services, professional services, business services and insurance. In the current landscape, there are AI verticals that we believe have definitive headwinds that investors should be mindful of. We believe that in most instances larger companies may be better positioned to defend and leverage AI. We also believe that there are tailwinds that may impact secondary beneficiaries of AI technology expansion such as cybersecurity and data infrastructure and management. But it is worth noting we aim to avoid verticals that we believe may be at higher risk of disruption such as low skill outsourced services or businesses centered around content creation such as ad tech or edtech, of which BXSL has mid single digit percentage exposure in its portfolio. In addition, we try to avoid industries that are more cyclical in nature. If we just look at BXSL's software portfolio, our investments average over $4 billion in enterprise value and are well capitalized with significant equity cushion. These companies are growing EBITDA annually at what we believe are healthy levels with weighted average interest coverage ratios near two terms. These numbers do not come by accident. Blackstone aims to identify trends and related downstream investments early before they become mainstream. While we work to expand the portfolio through new borrowers, we have remained active with existing companies that we believe are quality assets. We saw deal activity pick up across the private credit landscape and to Brad's point we were active on the deployment front. Q3 marked our most active quarter in 2025 from a funding perspective with net deployment up 65% and gross deployment up 90% quarter over quarter. We believe much of this was driven by BXSL's access to incumbent borrowers across our 5,100 BXSL issuers globally just this quarter nearly 2/3 of BXSL's fundings were to repeat borrowers of BXSL. In fact we had sole or lead roles in nearly 34 of of our debt investment fundings for the quarter and the majority of those were sourced from our liquids, business advisor networks and our long standing relationships. Certain sponsors prefer to work with BXSL when their portfolio companies need capital due to what we believe is is a largely differentiated credit franchise in a market. BXSL's largest third quarter investment into a new portfolio company was a large debt financing for a global specialty consulting firm. We were the sole lender in the financing and provided the company committed capital to execute on future growth plans. We believe that owners like to partner with BXSL not just because of the scale solutions we can provide but also because the services are we can offer after the investment. Our value creation team was extremely active during the third quarter and had some impactful wins with improving earnings for our portfolio companies. Just looking at the data available through the second quarter, the BXSL value creation program offered at no charge to participants or expense to BXSL has created $5 billion in illustrative value and reduce costs by over 440 million for BXVI portfolio companies since its inception. We can differentiate ourselves as not just a lender but as a value added partner helping credits grow equity value through our BXSL value creation program, we believe we have developed a reputation for being a valued partner with the ability to provide speed, creativity, flexibility and certainty of execution. And with that I'll turn it over to Teddy.

Teddy Laloch - Chief Financial Officer - (00:21:11)

Thank you, Carlos. I'll start with our operating Results on Slide 10. In the third quarter, the XSL's net investment income was 189 million or $0.82 per share, representing 106% coverage to our dividend on a per share basis. Total investment income for the quarter was up $14 million or 4.7% year over year driven by increased interest income. We experienced increased repayment activity in the third quarter compared to the second quarter, and with accelerating M and A and deal activity Brad outlined earlier, we expect continued turnover activity in our portfolio throughout the upcoming quarters. Interest income excluding PIC fees and dividends represented 91% of our total investment income in the quarter. Moving to our balance sheet on Slide 11, we ended the quarter with over 13.8 billion total portfolio investments at fair value, nearly 7.7 billion of outstanding debt and nearly 6.3 billion of total net assets. NAV per share at quarter end was $27.15, down from $27.33 at the second quarter. NAV per share was supported by $0.02 from share issuance from our ATM program at a premium to NAV, offset by $0.09 of realized losses and $0.16 of unrealized losses in the portfolio, primarily concentrated to a small number of larger positions. As we look at the portfolio overall, the majority of the portfolio was flat or marked higher during the third quarter with nearly an equal number of markups versus markdowns. NAV per share was down $0.18, predominantly related to names previously highlighted. Taking a step back as Brad and John highlighted, we saw healthy fundamentals across our portfolio with 9% EBITDA growth and increasing interest coverage ratios back to 2 times as rate resets are improving cash flow profiles of our borrowers, our non accruals of just 0.1% coupled with less than 1% of exposure valued below 80 are reflective of that. Further, we have over 120 individuals in our CIO office comprised of operational expertise, financial and legal restructuring expertise, data science expertise, capital formation and more, all dedicated to driving positive outcomes through our investment process and mitigating losses in the portfolio. We are relentless in finding ways to add value to our companies and deploying unique resources that Blackstone can bring to bear. Moving to slide 12 BXSL funded over 1 billion in the quarter and committed nearly 1.3 billion. Net funded investment activity was up for the quarter at over 500 million with 433 million of repayments up nearly 150% quarter over quarter. This represented an annualized repayment rate of 13% of the portfolio at fair value, up from nearly 5% for the prior quarter. Next slide 13 outlines our attractive and diverse liability profile which includes 37% of drawn debt in unsecured bonds that are not swapped. These unsecured bonds have a weighted average fixed coupon of less than 3% which contributed to an overall weighted average all in cost of debt of percent 55.0% down from 5.1% last quarter. This also compares to a weighted average yield at fair value on our performing debt investments of 10% down from Q2 at 10.2%. The overall weighted average maturity on our funding facilities is 3.3 years. Further, we have continued to optimize our cost of capital. In August we closed an amend and extend of our BXSL Revolving Credit facility which eliminated the 10 basis point credit spread adjustment for extending loans and gave us the tightest price revolver among traded BDC peers based on our market research. Further, BXSL's overall cost of debt of 5.04% is one of the lowest compared to our traded BDC peers last quarter. We continue to be prudent in taking advantage of historically tight spreads for BDC bonds. In mid October we closed a $500 million bond priced at 155 basis points over the benchmark treasury rate or at a 5.125% coupon with a 5.3 year tenor. This represented the tightest spread issue among our traded BDC peers since February. Our balance sheet strength and portfolio performance have supported us in achieving among the Highest ratings for BDCs with a Baa2 in stable outlook by Moody's, BBB minus in positive outlook by S&P and BBB flat and stable by Fitch. In fact, Moody's completed its annual review of BXSL at the end of the quarter, maintaining the Baa2 stable rating, citing BXSL's first lien senior secured focused on strong asset quality since inception and sound underwriting. Total liquidity was 2.5 billion of unrestricted cash and undrawn debt available to borrow while ending leverage as of September 30th was 1.22 turns on the higher end of our Target range of 1 to 1 and a quarter turns. Moving forward, we expect to operate near the higher end of our range given what we believe is a period of heightened deal activity. With that, I'll ask the operator to.

OPERATOR - (00:27:01)

Open it up for questions. Thank you. Thank you. As a reminder, please press star one to ask a question we ask you limit yourself to one question and one follow up question. To allow as many callers to join the queue as possible. We will take our first question from Finnian o' Shea with Wells Fargo Securities.

Finnian O'Shea - Equity Analyst - (00:27:23)

Hey everyone, thanks. Good morning. First question on Squarespace I guess. Can you hit on why hang on to that. There was a pretty small junior allocation it looks like and the main tranches +225 pretty. Is that indicative of how low you'll go and you know, otherwise should maybe more junior follow and a delayed draw or something like that. Thanks.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:27:59)

Yeah, Finn, thanks for the question. I'm happy to take that. You know I won't speak to specific situations but you know, from time to time for a high quality company that has delevered, we do have multiple options to retain exposure versus losing it to what could otherwise be a significantly tight tighter price indicated option. That can include potentially using a first out in some cases where we view it's appropriate from a spread perspective overall, which I think is where you're going with the question. We actually saw spreads on new deals marginally increase quarter over quarter. I think we would characterize the environment over the last three to four quarters as relatively stable. As Brad mentioned, you know, spreads on new deals overall were in the 525 context with, with 3 year OID amortized so relatively stable. We do have multiple tools in our toolbox. Maybe said differently Finn, we look at spreads on a portfolio basis and there may be specific reasons why individual assets may be structured a certain way. But as Teddy highlighted the spreads for the quarter if you include the add ons and delayed draw fundings were in the mid-500s.

Finnian O'Shea - Equity Analyst - (00:29:21)

Well, I guess a follow up is what is. Does it really matter if new spreads are in the mid-500s if they're going to be repriced to 225? Because that, you know, it's pretty tough math that's inside of a lot of bsl. So are we going to. Is the answer indicative of a lot more of this to come?

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:29:48)

The answer is no. Okay. I also think Finn, from time to time you might see, you know, you might see a first out in a portfolio that then gets sold over time. So I think to Brad's point, you can't really take a one situation to draw broad portfolio conclusions. Overall spreads have been pretty flat over. The last three to four quarters.

Finnian O'Shea - Equity Analyst - (00:30:13)

Okay, got a thing. And I guess the follow up, just market wide. I think you hit on some of this in the remarks. There's a lot of headlines out there that are hard hitting on private credit. Are you seeing any impact on on the non traded space given your major, if not dominant presence there on the non traded bdc? Any impact, do you think, to the trajectory of flows on that part of the market? Thanks.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:30:47)

So I'd say a couple things, Finn. As you know, performance across the BDC market generally and more specifically Blackstone's bdcs has actually been exceptionally good. What you ultimately see in the BDC market is returns that are delivering a premium to what investors can get in the public markets. That's the real driving kind of value of the asset class. And what's interesting is that when rates fall, the return premium that private credit delivers is actually more impactful. And think about 2021, we saw this when rates were near zero. You saw inflows from both institutional and individual investors actually grow despite the base rate environment we were living through. So the answer is there continues to be strong demand across all different types of investor bases for private credit.

Finnian O'Shea - Equity Analyst - (00:31:52)

Thanks so much.

OPERATOR - (00:31:54)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Casey Alexander, Compass Point Research and Trading.

Casey Alexander - (00:32:01)

Yeah, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is obviously there was a modest quarter over quarter markdown on Medallion and just simply because of the size of the investment, I think investors would like to hear where that company stands. And we also noticed that their principal competitor is doing a large acquisition. So we wonder if in your view that is changing any of the competitive dynamic between the two companies. Thanks, Casey. Yeah, there's no real update from last quarter on Medallion and we believe it's marked appropriately. I think that the acquisition by Qualtrics will take some time to integrate but does not change the the market backdrop. And so no real change there. Well, I also noticed in your deck that your company revenues year over year up, your company EBITDA year over year is up, but also the loan to value has skipped up a little bit higher. And normally I would think that if revenues and EBITDA were up, that might be actually coming down a little bit. Can you, can you speak to that dynamic? Does it have something to do with loan to value on newly originated loans or you know, what's what's the principal reason for that? Yeah, sure. So loan to values on new deals for the quarter averaged about 45% as we noted, is probably one of our busiest quarters in a long time. Across the portfolio, you're right, loan to value went from 47% to just under 50%. It's a fairly marginal move and I think that's largely a product of enterprise values getting adjusted marginally lower on existing names, which we think is largely an equity consideration. It's like saying the average enterprise of our companies was something like 3.2 billion and now it's 3 billion. But most importantly, there's still a billion and a half of equity subordinate to us. And so as we think about it, from a credit standpoint, you're focused on the right things. Companies are growing, interest coverage is getting better. 98% of the portfolios at the top of the capital structure. So nothing to read into anything there, just marginal changes. Thank you for taking the questions.

OPERATOR - (00:34:34)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Doug Harder with ubs.

Doug Harder - (00:34:41)

Thanks. Can you talk about the how you're viewing the outlook for the dividend as base rates come down and you have to refinance some more of your fixed rate debt? Sure, Doug.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:34:57)

So maybe we'll just start with the quarter. Right.

Teddy Laloch - Chief Financial Officer - (00:35:00)

Paid 77 cent dividend and earned approximately 82, so the payout's covered with room to spare. But the portfolio is in great shape as Brett outlined. So you've got low non accruals, a levered equity base which Teddy referenced, and importantly an income. Right, investment income that's high quality and most of all predictable. Approximately 90% come from cash interest, so it's not PIC or not fee related. Now right now about 99% of the portfolio is floating rate, which has been a big win with rates being high. But when rates start to come down and the Fed's expected to take so for around 3% over the next year, we'll see some impact on earnings. Now, some peers have already adjusted their dividends for us. The plan is to keep looking at the base dividend in light of where rates and earnings are headed and still make sure it stays competitive and sustainable. Now, the good news is we have. A cost and expense advantage over peers. And our latest bond deal, swapped at around 155 over outlined that. And with more M and A activity expected, we see some opportunities, as Brett outlined, to put some capital to work. So we're in a good spot to be thoughtful about any changes to the base dividend rather than Just rush into them. That's how we're looking at it this.

Doug Harder - (00:36:17)

Quarter and the quarters going forward. Appreciate that. And just as you mentioned, if there is increased M and A and turnover in the portfolio, how do you think about that impact on the realized yields you have if portfolio turnover picks up?

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:36:37)

Yeah, I'm happy to take that. I think we've been messaging for some time that number one, we expect activity to pick up. You clearly saw that. Number two, in line with that, you would expect repayment activity to pick up as well. You saw that too this quarter. So you know, if those trends persist, we'd expect a continued trend. That does, that does represent a potential upside driver to returns versus what you saw in certainly the second quarter and previous quarters and lower repayment activity.

Teddy Laloch - Chief Financial Officer - (00:37:10)

Yeah, it probably has more of immediate impact on earnings just given the acceleration of oid, the fees that we get from those refinancings. And then if the rate environment or the yield environment's a little bit lower, longer term yields will be a tad lower on those new deals.

OPERATOR - (00:37:37)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Kenneth Lee with RBC Capital Markets.

Kenneth Lee - (00:37:45)

Hey, thanks for taking my question. First one is just about the AI opportunities. And you highlighted a couple of different things here over the near term. What sorts of opportunities do you see potentially over the next coming quarters? Could this include, for example, debt financing and some of the infrastructure? What's appropriate for the vehicle here? Thanks.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:38:13)

Yeah. So obviously AI is both a risk and an opportunity. We're spending a lot of time on the risk side, understanding what sectors could be impacted. We have, I think we've talked about this before, 1,000 technologists across Blackstone. So our insights into areas of concern and risk are probably better positioned than most anyone in the industry. Your question was more on the opportunity side and we think everything in and around the AI ecosystem is looking attractive. Not from a application or technology standpoint. There's some. We need to be cautious as a debt investor on where we want to invest, but more in the infrastructure and that includes equipment providers into data centers. So we just did a big deal for VXSL during the quarter called Layer 0, which Advent purchased. We just announced a deal last week, Sabre Power, which powers another attractive infrastructure play on the AI in the AI ecosystem. So you'll continue to see us play in the picks and shovels around AI and drive more secure type investments in that space.

Kenneth Lee - (00:39:38)

Great, very helpful there. And then one follow up, if I may. More broadly, how are you seeing in terms of the quality of deals that you're seeing you've certainly seen a pickup in activity, but wondering how would you assess the quality of the deals that you're seeing so far? Thanks.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:39:56)

Yeah, I would say it's actually fairly good. We're seeing what's driving a little bit of the pickup in M and A activity. As I said in my opening remarks, you have a little bit more macro clarity, you have a lower cost of capital and those two things are driving improved valuations. And so buyers and sellers are coming a little bit closer together. And typically when an M and A machine starts to pick up, it leads with the higher quality assets. And those are the types of deals that we're seeing. As I just mentioned on the previous question, average loan to value about 45%. So still sub 50%. When we started 15, 20 years ago, average loan to values were around 65%. So very good backdrop from a capital structure standpoint. If you're investing at the top of the capital structure, which we continue to do. And then I would say there are certain sectors that we think will be better performers going forward and those are the ones that we've invested in the past year and will continue on a go forward basis for our investors.

Kenneth Lee - (00:41:11)

Great. Very helpful there. Thanks again.

OPERATOR - (00:41:16)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Ethan K with Lucid Capital Markets.

Ethan K - (00:41:21)

Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question here. So you guys had strong commitment and net funding activity this quarter, which is great to see. I guess first question is how much of this was kind of incumbent versus new borrowers and are you kind of seeing a shift in these proportions in the last quarter recent months here?

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:41:44)

Yeah, good question. Thanks Ethan. So as we look at total activity in the quarter which includes existing portfolio companies that are accessing DDTLs or doing ADD ons in addition to new deals, over 80% of our activity was to incumbent borrowers and over 70% or actually close to 75% as Carlos mentioned, were where we're sole lead. So I wouldn't say that's a different quarter than previous. That's kind of been consistent for a while. It goes back to our broad coverage across the sub investing grade universe. Cover or invested as a platform over 5,000 companies. That's somewhat of a fertile hunting ground for us for new deals. You saw that the quarter and I would say just as a market backdrop, we're seeing about a 25% uptick in new LBOs. So going forward I think you'll see a decent percentage of new deals come through the portfolio and into next year. Got it.

Ethan K - (00:42:53)

That's helpful and then I guess somewhat. Of a follow up. So given that leverage ticked up a bit at the high end of your range, as you mentioned, and given that kind of share, you know, issuance ability is a little bit more constrained these days, should we anticipate kind of the level of deployment to be largely driven by portfolio turnover? Do you think there's capacity to kind of maintain these elevated net funding levels?

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:43:23)

Yeah, good question. Thank you. So. Well first off, going into a period of heightened activity, very well capitalized, right over two and a half billion of liquidity among lowest cost of financing debt markets wide open, we issued a $500 million bond at 155 basis point spread over treasury. And to put that in context, that's about 50 basis points inside of where spreads were on bonds in 2021. So to your point, also seeing a pickup in repayment activity as the M and A market does pick up. We expect to continue to see that and we'll watch the equity markets closely and only issue if we see that it's accretive to both NAV and earnings based on the opportunity set in front of us. So in the meantime feel we're in a very good position and do have some visibility to increasing repayments. As previously mentioned, the pickup and M and A activity and turnover are directly linked, not surprisingly. So you'll see both those happen at the same time.

Ethan K - (00:44:23)

Great, appreciate it. Thanks guys.

OPERATOR - (00:44:27)

Thank you. As a reminder, Star1, if you would like to ask a question, we'll go next to Robert Dodd with Raymond James.

Robert Dodd - (00:44:35)

Hi guys. If I can go back to the LTV question quickly. I mean almost 50%. I think that's probably an all time high in this portfolio and it's up almost 300 basis points since last quarter. And there's also, there seems to be a bit of tension in. Brad, you prepared remarks, you're talking to Ken. You said valuations in the market are improving and that's one of the factors driving activity. But then your explanation for LTV is going down was you were marking down the enterprise value for some of your portfolio companies. So can you give us a little bit more granularity on that? Is it trimming multiples modestly broadly across the portfolio for your enterprise value assessments or more concentrated in some larger assets where there are bigger negative adjustments?

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:45:30)

Yeah, I don't want to get into too technical of an answer on this point, but I'll give you an example and hopefully that is helpful if a company does an add on financing where they had previously an equity position. Let's just say that was a billion and a half dollars. That company may have improved in value and we may have financed it with the acquisition with debt. So it may look like the LTV has gone up, but it in fact is reflecting the original purchase price of the sponsor. So there's a lot of puts and takes on the ltv. Robert, I would tell you it's not as we look at it, it's not a story, it's not an event that concerns us just given the subordination that remains below our debt positions.

Robert Dodd - (00:46:36)

Got it, Got it. Thank you. Sort of follow up, not really on spreads. I mean, in your opening remarks, Brad, you did said spreads are still attractive relative to other fixed income markets. I agree with that. I mean, spreads are down everywhere. And private credit has persistently maintained the premium over the syndicated loan market. Call it 150 plus basis points. Do you think there's risk to that 150 as we go forward, given the amount of capital and the amount of competition?

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:47:10)

I definitely do not think there's risk to that premium. If you take a step back and think about what private credit is delivering for companies in the bank model, you approach a bank, bank underwrites a loan, goes to the rating agencies, goes through a long distribution process and eventually prices that debt in the public markets, they charge a fee for that. Usually that fee is somewhere between two and a half basis, 250 basis points to 300 basis points, depending on all the other ancillary expenses. And you compare that to private credit, where I'm going to the same company and saying, work with Blackstone directly. We can give you a billion dollar loan. You don't need to go through that distribution process. By the way, we can give you a little bit more of a tailored solution for you. And that is the value of what private credit brings to the market. It's the disintermediation of the bank distributed model. And there's value for that, there's value for the company and there's value for investors. And so I strongly believe that that premium will be maintained and at some points will actually even be wider.

Robert Dodd - (00:48:33)

Got it. Thank you. I hate to ask one more. Can you give us the estimated spillover currently to support the dividend? Yep. $1.89. Got it. Thank you. Thank you.

Melissa Waddell - (00:48:48)

We'll take our next question from Melissa Waddell with JPMorgan. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions today. Definitely noticed the resilience in interest income this quarter, especially given the pickup quarter over quarter. I was Wondering if there was anything one time or outsized showing up and impacting the 3Q revenue number.

Teddy Laloch - Chief Financial Officer - (00:49:15)

Yeah, thanks, Melissa. I think as you look at our interest income profile overall, what you see is quite a bit of recurring nature. Right. We have, As I mentioned, 91% excluding 91% of interest income, excludes PICC and one time fees. We did have a little bit of repayment activity. The impact of that was maybe $0.03. So I think overall, as you go back to our policy from an accounting perspective, all OID and upfront fees are amortized over the life and so that leads to more stability or we believe leads to more stability over a long period of time.

Melissa Waddell - (00:49:57)

Okay, that helps. Thank you. And it sounds like with the pickup in M and A activity and deal volumes, you're seeing some attractive opportunities. I'm curious how the opportunity set here in the US now that it is sort of re accelerating, how does that compare to what you're seeing outside of the US which I know has a small exposure in the portfolio. Thanks.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:50:20)

Yeah, I would say Europe as being the primary market that's most developed outside of the US probably sees terms that are a little bit wider to what you're seeing in the U.S. the market's just not as developed, the capital markets aren't as deep, there's not as many competitors. And so as that market starts to re accelerate as well, there's a slightly better backdrop in Europe than the U.S. both are attractive, clearly, but you see about a 2550 basis point spread premium in Europe and in Asia. It's a little bit of a market that's still developing for the most part and probably not a great comp.

OPERATOR - (00:51:07)

Thank you. Thank you. We'll take our last question from Aaron Segonovich with Truist Securities.

Aaron Segonovich - (00:51:18)

Thank you. I just wanted to talk a little. Bit about the commentary of investment activity. Picking up because of cost of capital. Coming down and macro getting better. The macro still seems kind of squishy and part of the reason that rates. May be coming down is that there. Is a little bit of macro uncertainty. Along with the slowing inflation. I guess. What's your experience in the past in. Areas like this where you have the. Cost of capital coming down but macros still have some uncertainty in it. Yeah.

Brad Marshall - Co-Chief Executive Officer - (00:51:59)

Let me just comment broadly on the economy because you are correct. We did highlight that it feels like the economy. The backdrop is good. Corporate balance sheets are good. Earnings as we see them reported publicly are strong. We're seeing that in our portfolio as well. I think we mentioned 9% earnings growth there are pockets of weakness most certainly and you see that in the cyclicals. You see that in smaller companies. You see that in companies that are exposed to the lower end of the consumer. Tricolor is a good example of that and then you see some businesses that are more impacted by AI so it's not without challenges. So it really depends on where you're invested. But importantly as you think about rates, rates are primarily looking at inflation and inflation is coming down. The labor markets are cooling. Shelter costs are lower and that's really what the Fed's focused on when they're setting their interest rate policy.

Aaron Segonovich - (00:53:11)

Got it. All right. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:53:15)

Thank you. With no additional questions in queue I'd like to turn the call back over to Stacy Wang for any additional or closing remarks.

Stacy Wang - (00:53:22)

Thank you and thanks everyone for your participation in our call this morning. We look forward to speaking to you next quarter. Thanks again.