Ecarx reports $156M revenue despite seasonal challenges, aims for 20% growth and EBITDA breakeven in 2025, fueled by new partnerships and robust vehicle shipments.

OPERATOR - (00:01:27)

Good day and thank you for joining us. Welcome to ECARX Holdings's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in the listen only mode. After management gives their prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host for today's call, Renee Du, Head of Investor Relations at ECARX Holdings. Please proceed. Renee.

Renee Du - Head of Investor Relations - (00:01:57)

Thank you. Operator Good morning and welcome to ECARX Holdings Holdings SECond quarter 2025 earnings conference call. With me today from ECARX Holdings are our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Zhiyushuan, Chief Operating Officer Peter Thurino and Chief Financial Officer Phil Zhou. Following their prepared remarks, they will all be available to answer your questions. Before we start, I would like to refer you to our forward looking statements at the bottom of our earnings press release which also applies to this call. Further information on specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially can be found in our filings with the SEC. In addition, this call will include a discussion of certain non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures to the GAAP financial measures can also be found at the bottom of earnings release. With that, I'd like to hand the. Call over to Ziyu Hu.

OPERATOR - (00:02:55)

Please go ahead.

Ziyu Hu - (00:02:57)

Thank you. Renee hello everyone and thank you for joining us today. During the quarter, we continued to build up the strong momentum achieved throughout 2024 and early 2025. Despite seasonal headwinds, we made solid progress securing key new projects, expanding partnerships and strengthening the foundation for future growth. Our results this quarter reflect the distinct execution of our lean operating strategy and reinforce our path towards growth and EBITDA breakeven in each of the remaining quarters and four year 2025. In part two, we shipped 532,000 units, bringing the total number of vehicles on the road with ECARX Holdings technology to over 9.3 million at the end of June 2025. These achievements testify to the sustained operational excellence and reliability that have become hallmarks of our execution even during this challenging time. As is typical for our industry, 402 was impacted by seasonality and the timing of a certain contract, with revenue reaching 156 million on the back of strategic investments and pricing initiatives to drive future growth. The display execution of our lean operating strategy helped lower operating expenses by 20% to $57.2 million. With several significant new projects expected to launch in the second half, we remain on track to reach EBITDA break even and generate close to 20% revenue growth. The breadth of our global partnerships with automakers continue to anchor our position as a core technology provider by quarter two. I'm excited to share our current contract win already secured over US$1 billion of lifetime revenue for overseas revenue. Besides our strong position in China market, we are very confident our strong position in global market as well. Shipments of Antora Series Solutions surged 112 percentage year over year to 135,000 units during the quarter, providing ample fuel to sustain growth momentum going forward. Our broad portfolio of solutions, especially the flagship Antora platform integrated with Flyme Auto, are driving the success of several geely best selling models including Galaxy brand which supports 1 million accumulated sales milestone this year. This is the fastest NEV brand has ever achieved this earning our first project award from Volkswagen Group in March 2025. I had the pleasure of accepting Volkswagen Brazil's technical development and Innovation Award on behalf of ECARX Holdings at their one Partnership celebration in Brazil earlier this month. This award reflects Volkswagen's confidence in our technological innovation capabilities and the growing impact our innovative solutions are having on the global automotive industry. Notably, we also began monetizing our automotive R and D investments across new high growth sectors with a leading developer of robotic throne motors selecting our LIDAR technology during the quarter. With mass production plan for 2026, this partnership will broaden our horizon beyond the automotive sector, validate the application of our cutting edge technologies and help pave the way for future opportunities in the vast robotics market. As part of our global expansion strategy, our new global headquarters in Singapore is set to open in the second half of 2025 where it will accelerate our global IP management, R& D collaboration and supply chain optimizations, enabling us to better serve automakers across global markets. In summary, despite the impact of seasonality, our results this quarter underscore the strength and momentum we are building through operational discipline and expanding pipeline of projects, growing global princes, diversified applications and investment in technology and infrastructure. We are well positioned to drive the industry transition to software defined intelligent vehicles and also to hit our breakeven target. I will now pass the call over to Peter who will go through the operating results of the quarter in more details.

Peter Thurino - Chief Operating Officer - (00:08:05)

Thank you Ziyu and good day to everyone. As Ziyu outlined, we carefully navigated typical industry seasonality, ongoing market uncertainties during the quarter and made solid progress executing our strategic priorities. We secured several major new project wins, broadened our partnerships, developed strong and innovative products and expanded our footprint. In the second quarter we shipped 532,000 units, bringing in the cumulative total of vehicles equipped with our technologies to over 9.3 million as of June 30. This growing installed base is a direct reflection of the trust we have built with automakers globally and the reliability and scalability of our solutions. We currently serve 18 OEMs across 28 brands globally. This is a testament to our ability to meet the diverse technology and integration requirements of leading automakers across the globe. Our partnership with Geely remains foundational and this quarter the momentum continued. We secured 14 new project wins from Geely alone, each slated to integrate our Antora family of solutions, further embedding our technology into Geely's best selling lineup. Notably, our solutions enabled Geely's Galaxy brand to surpass 1 million unit in sales, the fastest any V brand has achieved this milestone to date. Geely Tsinghuan, powered by our Veneto platform and Flyme Auto Lite, also led Geely's sales in the first half of the year, highlighting both the competitive edge and the value our stack provides automakers. As we deepen our core relationships, we are also diversifying and extending our technological reach. Building on the Veneto platform's success in the Geely Xinyuan, we formalized a partnership to provide our Veneto platform to a top five Chinese automaker for their next generation global model. Shipments are expected to begin in 2026. We are also building a customized intelligent cockpit operating system based on Flymi Auto for a leading premium global global automotive brand. This represents a major milestone in our expansion into the premium global intelligent cockpit sector and reflects the growing influence and expanding market share of Flyme Auto. Our technical leadership is now being validated beyond the automotive sector as well, with the leading global developer of robotic lawnmowers integrating our proprietary solid state 3D lidar into their products. With mass production targeted for 2026. This win demonstrates how our deep automotive R and D investments have also positioned us to capitalize on the vast potential of the robotics and AI markets, supporting our strategy of long term multi industry applications. Our technology was pivotal in several Geely model launches during the quarter, directly supporting and deepening partnership and further elevating our brand's market presence and technology leadership. In April, the fourth generation 2025 bo u l was launched across China. Built on Geely's GEEA 3.0 architecture and equipped with our Antora 1000 computing platform, Cloud Peak Cross Domain Software stack and Fly Me Auto, the BO U L delivers a modern SUV experience with advanced AI integration. In May, the flagship Geely Galaxy M9 made its debut in Milan where it immediately had an outsized impact with its groundbreaking combination of cutting edge NEB technology, AI features and luxury built on the GEA EVO native architecture. This is the first vehicle program to integrate our Pikes computing platform based on Qualcomm 8295 with Flymi Auto. In June, the Geely Galaxy A7 debuted with the Antora 1000 platform and the custom Flymy OS, offering an intuitive user interface with features such as multi zone voice recognition and seamless voice command capabilities. Launched earlier this year, the Galaxy 8 and Xinyao 8 PHEB sedans also continue to drive strong demand. Both have our Skyland Pro ADAS solution integrated into Geely's G Pilot H1 Unified Intelligent Driving System which provides highway and elevated road NOA functionalities. Additionally, we powered the launch of the Geely Galaxy EX5 across 26 countries where it became one of the top selling vehicles in Australia after just three months and the top selling vehicle in Malaysia. Monthly overseas sales continue to exceed 12,000 units, reflecting the value our stack drives for automakers and the differentiated experience it offers to customers. Our business development activity during the Shanghai auto show in Q2 included the meaningful engagements with Dongfeng, Nissan, the GAC R and D Center and Renault, further expanding our pipeline in the EU market. We now have 14 active projects we're. Working on with eight different global automakers. And we have four wins to date. ZU had the pleasure of accepting Volkswagen Brazil's Technical Development Innovation Award on behalf of ECARX Holdings at their The1 Partnership Celebration and in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil earlier this month. This award further underscores the momentum our international business is picking up with project wins from large and global respective brands such as Volkswagen, reflecting the growing confidence in our innovative and mature solutions and the growing impact they are having on the sector. Our global technological thought leadership was also highlighted with with the release of a Google Automotive Services Integration white paper showcasing the best practices and proprietary tools we use to cut GAS certification time by over 50%. This solution can be applied to GAS on our Qualcomm based and Antora computing platforms validated by recent launches such as the Pulsar 4Q. Our commitment to cutting time to market for our partners continues to strengthen. We showcased technological achievements in generative AI and multimodal interaction at the 2025 World Artificial Intelligence Conference in Shanghai last month. Our AI driven intelligent cockpit and driving solutions were on display at the event, reinforcing our innovation leadership supported by our robust hardware software integration development capabilities. The Hongqi Tiangong 5 05 also recently received a major update to our EcarX AutoGPT in vehicle AI solution. AutoGPT now integrates Deepseek and offers a wide array of daily high frequency services, setting a new benchmark for user experience. Our extensive implementation of AI goes beyond our solutions and is also significantly improving our engineering efficiency, driving a 20% reduction in opex and directly contributing to our breakeven target in each of the remaining quarters and full year 2025 following the integration of intelligent cockpit driving and parking capabilities into the Antora 1000 SPB platform and the completion of the road testing on the Galaxy E5 last quarter, we recently completed system software development for a 5 in 1 Antora solution. This is a very exciting iteration on Antora and has already secured its first commercial project win. This solution will enable automakers to accelerate the deployment of next generation vehicles with enhanced safety and an improved user experience. As a result of these efforts, we continue to expand our IP portfolio with 724 registered patents and 825 pending applications. Globally as of June 30. Underscoring the depth and sustainability of our innovation, supply chain resilience is critical for global scaling. Our Fuyang Plant plant now operates at 80% utilization, hitting its 1 million unit annual capacity ahead of schedule. We also deepened our partnership with Samsung to accelerate the commercialization of cutting edge technologies across automotive intelligence, terminal devices and smart hardware. Together we will build a sustainable open technology ecosystem which will also capitalize on opportunities in the rapidly growing robotics AI application markets. We are also collaborating with Monolithic Power Systems on automotive intelligence, robotics and AI applications to establish a global supply chain and intelligent ecosystem spanning system integration, platform adaption and delivery. These initiatives are being widely appreciated across the industry with our excellence in manufacturing, procurement and delivery recognized with inclusion in the 2025 China Automotive Supply Chain Top 100 ranking foundational to our global expansion is our robust compliant infrastructure. Our new global headquarters in Singapore is expected to become operational in the second half of the year. This will act as a critical hub for our global IP, R&D supply chain procurement and treasury activities and allow us to support automakers across global markets. We also received three ISO certifications for Quality Management, Environmental Stewardship and Occupational Health and Safety last month prerequisites for collaboration with leading automakers. Together, these achievements enhance our competitive positioning and provide a robust foundation for us to extend our technology stack into AI, robotics and embodied intelligent applications globally. In summary, our results this quarter demonstrate the disciplined execution, global expansion and technological leadership at the heart of our growth strategy. Despite external headwinds we are delivering on the key enablers innovation, operational scale, global compliance and ecosystem collaboration that position us to accelerate the industry's transformation to software defined intelligent mobility. With that, I will now turn the call over to Phil who will review our financial results.

Phil Zhou - Chief Financial Officer - (00:19:45)

Thank you Peter and hello everyone. While Q2 brought expected seasonal signs, softness and macroeconomic uncertainty, our team's disciplined execution on strategic initiatives partially mitigated leads headwinds Total revenue for the quarter landed at 156 million US dollar. Sales of goods revenue was 131 million US dollar, a 1% year over year increase. The growth was primarily driven by a double digit increase in customer demand which was partially offset by strategic price reductions to accelerate market penetration. Our in house development strategy is gaining significant traction. Our Antora, Veneto and Skyland Pro platforms now contribute a remarkable 56% to total sales of goods revenue, more than doubling from 28% in the prior year period. Software license revenue decreased 85% year over year to 1.2 million US dollar, primarily from a decline in per vehicle software license revenue coupled with lower intellectual property licenses revenue. Intellectual property licenses contributed 3.9 million US dollar revenue in the same period last year. Service revenue came in at 23 million US dollar, down 34% year over year, mainly due to lower revenue from non recurring engineering services contracts for automotive computing platforms compared to the same period last year, which was partially offset by growth in overseas connectivity service revenue. Gross profit for the quarter was 70 million US dollar, a decline of 58% year over year with a gross margin of 11%, a 12% decrease compared with the period year period. This was chiefly attributable to strategic pricing initiatives to accelerate computing platform market penetration combined with a lower software license service around the mix and a higher cost for the completed and non recurring engineering projects. In the current quarter we achieved significant progress in operating expense management, reducing costs by 20% year over year to US$57 million reflecting our strong execution on operational and R and D efficiency improvements. Adjusted EBITDA loss landed at 30 million US dollar, a slight decline compared to the loss of 29 million US dollar in the same period last year. This was primarily attributable to decrease the gross profit partially offset by a lower level of operating expenses and equity investment losses alongside higher other income. Moving on to our balance sheet, as of the end of the quarter we had 99 million US dollar cash and restricted cash which provides ample liquidity to fund the global expansion and the next generation technology development. We continue to strengthen working capital and profitability alongside lease strategic investments. In summary, our second quarter financial results faced temporary market headwinds. They demonstrate the effectiveness of our product strategy, cost discipline and operational execution. With several significant vehicle programs scheduled for SOP in the second half, we expect to see full year revenue recover strongly and grow by close to 20% year over year driven by volume growth and improved product mix. With our scale growing, significant pipeline and disciplined operating expense controls, we remained confident in achieving adjusted EBITDA breakeven in each of the remaining quarters and the full year 2025 a significantly improved full year financial performance. We have full confidence in our ability to deliver on these targets through our focused execution and operational excellence. That concludes our remarks today. I would now like to hand the call back to the operator to begin the Q and A section.

OPERATOR - (00:24:14)

Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. Thank you. We will now go to our first question. One moment please. And your first question today comes from the line of Dan and Wren from cicc. Please go ahead.

Dan Wren - (00:24:48)

Hello, can you hear me?

Ziyu Hu - (00:24:51)

Yes, Hello Danny. And we can hear you. Well, hello?

Danny Ren - (00:24:54)

Okay. Good evening everyone. This is Danny Ren from CICC Auto Team. Thanks for the presentation and congrats on your results and all improvements in the first half. Now I have like three follow up questions for you. My first question is about your non automotive business layout because we found that you secured a design win for robotic lawnmower in the lighter domain before. Right. How do you expect the development of non automotive applications in the future? And my second question is about your progress in overseas expansion because since we secured a VW design win, what advancements have been made in acquiring international clients or establishing overseas R and D or production facilities? And my last question is, could you please update on the progress of your in house chip development? That's all my questions. Thank you. Okay.

Peter Thurino - Chief Operating Officer - (00:26:07)

Hey Daniel. Thank you for the question. This is Peter. Renee. Let me try to address some answers here. I'll take them one by one. With the non automotive business, we secured. This win in the past quarter to bring our LIDAR forward on the robotics solution. So we're quite excited about that. Fundamentally at the technology level, I think that the capabilities that we're bringing into vehicles can be similar leveraged in the industrial space especially as automation increases there. So whether it's SoCs, sensors and software, we think as they get applied to a wider range of smart Devices that. There is potential to further expand our. Business in that space. Lidar was a technology that we've been developing for some time and it was in a point that it could be quickly developed for the application. And we're very optimistic about the potential in the future in the robotics space. Your second question was about our growth on a global level. So as you know, ecarx has been building our capabilities throughout Europe and other markets, other international markets for many years now, starting with our efforts with Volvocarn in Sweden as early as 2021. So earlier this year we were super. Excited to be able to announce the Volkswagen program as our next milestone in that space. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we have a broad set of pipeline and portfolio that we're pursuing that has. More than a billion dollars worth of. Lifetime revenue on programs we've already won. In total, We've got about 14 active programs with eight different carmakers and four wins to date, obviously VW being the one that we won. And then you can look at the announcements that we made this quarter as continued significant milestones in that space. Ziyu Hu mentioned the award that we won. From the Volkswagen team in Brazil. We were quite honored to be recognized with that award. I think that's a demonstration of the company's technology robustness and program delivery capability that soon after winning the GEI program were recognized on our innovation capabilities. And then the Google White paper that we announced continues to demonstrate our ability for high quality, extremely fast software development in the automotive space. So I think we continue to progress on the global business and we'll anticipate seeing additional activities as the year goes on. We also mentioned the software program. In. China with a leading global luxury oem. That I think is another key milestone that we'll build on with that organization as well. And then relative to our internal capabilities on SOCs. We announced many times the continued growth of our Antora platform, which is built on that capability. And we continue to find applications and opportunities to grow the Antora platform both in building additional market share as that product grows quite substantially across a number of different OEMs, and then also growing the capabilities of that platform as we continue to develop software defined vehicle applications. In addition to that, we're continuing in. This quarter or in this year we'll. Be launching the Qualcomm 8295 product into the market and we continue to have a broad set of products both on Qualcomm and other industry solutions as well as our own development solution with CyEngine. So hope that helps in the question.

Danny Ren - (00:30:31)

Thank you, Peter. That's all. My question is very clear. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:30:37)

Thank you. As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one and one on your telephone keypad. We will now go to the next question. And your next question today comes from the line of Wei Hong from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Wei Hong - (00:30:58)

Hi, this is Wei from db. Can you hear me?

Phil Zhou - Chief Financial Officer - (00:31:01)

Yes, Wei, we hear you very clearly.

Wei Hong - (00:31:05)

Thank you. Thanks for taking my question. So my first question is, in the first half we saw roughly 1.2 new million vehicles equipped with our solutions. Can you give us a volume guidance for the second half of the year?

Bill - (00:31:18)

Hey Wei, this is Bill speaking. Thank you for your question. So let me address your question. Yeah, you know, ECARX Holdings, we keep making traction in volume and the market share growing. And in the second, in the first half we already achieved 20% of the growth in terms of the volume and the momentum will continue. So as Peter just mentioned in his session, we have so many programs to be SOP in the second half of the year in 2025. So to see the volume in second half, in the second half will continue to grow, it's like 1.4 to 1.5 million vehicles. That is pretty under our confidence level. And in terms of the full year, we are able to deliver nearly 2.5, 2.6 million vehicles. That is also about 30% a year over year growth.

Wei Hong - (00:32:18)

That is very clear. My second question is regarding on pricing. We talked a bit about the pressure in pricing in the first half. So for some calculations in the second quarter, the content per car actually improved quarter over quarter. Can we talk a bit about that? Is it any impact from the government's anti evolution policies against over competition in the auto space?

Bill - (00:32:40)

Thank you. Yeah, sure, thank you. So yeah, we appreciate the government's confirmation on the so called anti evolution moves. But we also observe that the entire industry has realized the challenge caused by the evolution and we expect this pattern will continue in the near term. So I mean in the industry pricing, cost and productivity actions will mitigate the impact and give us some room in terms of margin and recovery. So you know, our pricing strategy is very clear. We always provide flexibility in terms of volume and the market share acquisition. We always would like to maintain a share, stabilize the business and the boost up the volume which drive our revenue growth. And to support the profitability improving, we now are taking several actions. Number one, we will keep driving our cost optimization activity. So through our relentless efforts in recent quarters, we already achieved a cost reduction about 20%. And that is really helpful for us to mitigate the so called pricing erosion due to the fierce price market competition. And the second thing is we really need to manage a good portfolio of solution selling. So the software is really key, which is a very good enablement to our OEM customers, including a global OEM customers. So for example, we already won a nomination of one famous OEMs regarding the Frymi Auto Corporation and I do believe that those corporations can bring us an incremental software business and such kind of a recurring business will continue to improve our gross margin. Okay. So yeah, and the other thing is, you know, we are expanding our footprint into a global business aggressively and by building the operations over there and by you know, continuously enhancing operating efficiency and the productivity improvement, we certainly can drive margin recovery and a profitable growth from all those sectors.

Wei Hong - (00:35:06)

Thank you, that's very clear. And our last question is regarding the ADCU business. Can you update us on your Thor based computing platform and would you also maybe work with Qualcomm's Flex SoCs like 8775? Thank you.

Peter Thurino - Chief Operating Officer - (00:35:22)

Maybe I can take that question. Wei, thank you. I think when we look across our. ECARX SOC platform for the ADCUS, we definitely have the 8775 on our roadmap. So we're exploring a few different opportunities with that platform both in the China market and in the global market. I think we see that trend of fusion certainly happening within the marketplace. We're also, as we mentioned, actively on our ANTORA platform in our Antora 1000 SPP platform, also launching somewhat of a fusion platform in 2026 that will include parking and some level 2 ADAS safety features on the vehicle. So we definitely see that fusion technology will come into the automotive space and we believe with our capabilities that we've already prototyped and will shortly launch on our ANTORA platform or in a extremely good position as the Qualcomm SoCs and other additional SoCs enter the marketplace.

Wei Hong - (00:36:51)

Thank you. Very clear. That's all from me.

OPERATOR - (00:36:54)

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Bella - (00:37:15)

Hello management, I'm Bella from UOBK hn. I would like to ask about the growth driver for the second half and the next year, for example the progress of new products, new business and new orders intake. And my second question is about the. Customer cooperation and the expansion of overseas customers. That's my question.

Phil Zhou - Chief Financial Officer - (00:37:44)

Okay, thank you, Yifei. This is Phil speaking. So let me address your second question first. And Peter, probably you can also jump in to address customer expansion, especially from the overseas expansion perspective. So let me emphasize that we keep optimizing our business portfolio proactively and one of our strategies is to drive diversified the customer base. So we, in the second quarter, we already achieved that. You know, the business makes the business portfolio in a relatively healthy way. For example, the Geely auto business occupied nearly 40 to 50% of our total business. And the Geely ecosystem brands occupies nearly 30% to 40%. And rest of our business came from non geely business, which is about 15%. All right, and in terms of the customer structure, China versus overseas. Now in the second quarter, our business already has been optimized to 60%. Business came from channel EMS and the rest of 40% came from global EMS. Of course, those global EMS includes Volvo, Polestar, Smart, Proton, Lowe's, GD Ecosystem. And meanwhile, we are adding new names, new global yams into our portfolio. For sure. Volkswagen, that is the one we won the nomination in Q1 1085. And we foresee more revenue, more business from international brands will be in our portfolio. Okay, yeah, I would just. Phil, I think that's a great summary. I would just add to that. You know, our global activity is very robust at this stage. We're seeing, you know, activities across, as I mentioned, eight different carmakers in the global marketplace and many RFQ and RFI processes that we see having the potential to close, you know, later this year and can even start to generate revenue in late 2026. So we're very excited about the potential we continue to build in the global marketplace. And I think that we'll continue to see, I would say, more exciting announcements as the year goes on, as we're able to share more of that with the investor community. So I think the customer diversity diversification is continuing to be very much on track and broadening, even picking up momentum.

Bella - (00:40:34)

Thank you very much. It's very clear.

OPERATOR - (00:40:37)

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Phil Zhou - Chief Financial Officer - (00:41:00)

Okay, thank you everyone for your attention to our earnings call. Look, we continue to build upon the strong momentum achieved in past several quarters, and this momentum will continue for sure. And while our financial performance was impacted by typical seasonal trends, we continue to make a significant progress across our business, securing key wings, broadening our partnerships and strengthening our foundation for the future. So with the solid business foundation, disciplined execution, as well as new business acquisitions, we will realize adjust the EBITDA breakeven in each quarter of the remaining year. And that concludes our earnings call today. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:41:49)

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.