Enbridge reports record Q3 results, reaffirms strong growth outlook and strategic initiatives
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Enbridge achieves record third quarter adjusted EBITDA, driven by robust demand and growth projects, reaffirming confidence in 5% growth outlook through 2030.


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  • Enbridge reported a record third quarter adjusted EBITDA, driven by contributions from U.S. Gas utilities and organic growth in gas transmission, keeping it on track to finish the year in the upper half of its EBITDA guidance.
  • The company added $3 billion of new growth capital to its Secured Capital program, with major projects across its liquid pipelines, gas transmission, and renewable segments, including the Southern Illinois Connector and expansions in the Gulf Coast.
  • The future outlook includes continued growth with a focus on brownfield opportunities, maintaining a disciplined capital allocation within the $9 to $10 billion annual growth investment capacity, and achieving 5% growth through the end of the decade.
  • Operational highlights include record mainline volumes transporting 3.1 million barrels per day, and positive rate settlements for Enbridge Gas North Carolina and Utah, with expansions planned for the mainline and gas storage facilities.
  • Management highlighted the competitive edge from its diverse portfolio and strategic partnerships, emphasizing disciplined investment in new projects to meet growing energy demand, particularly in gas storage and LNG support.

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OPERATOR - (00:00:12)

Good morning and welcome to The Enbridge Inc. Third Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Rebecca Morley and I'm the Vice President of Investor Relations and Insurance. Joining me this morning are Greg Ebel, President and CEO Pat Murray, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and the heads of each of our business units, Colin Grunding, Liquids Pipelines, Cynthia Hansen, Gas Transmission, Michelle Herodins, Gas Distribution and Storage, and Matthew Ackman, Renewable Power. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session for the investment community. Please note this conference call is being recorded as per usual. This call is being webcast and I encourage those listening on the phone to follow along with the supporting slides. We will try to keep the call to roughly one hour, and in order to answer as many questions as possible, we will be limiting questions to one plus a single follow up if necessary. We'll be prioritizing questions from the investment community, so if you are a member of the media, please direct your inquiries to our communications team who will be happy to respond. As always, our Investor Relations team will be available following the call for any follow up questions. On to slide two where I will remind you that we'll be referring to forward looking information in today's presentation and in the Q and A. By its nature, this information contains forecast assumptions and expectations about future outcomes which are subject to risks and uncertainties outlined here and discussed more fully in our public disclosure filings. We'll also be referring to non GAAP measures summarized below. With that, I'll turn it over to Greg Ebel.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:02:03)

Well, thanks very much Rebecca and good morning everyone. Thanks for joining us on the call today. Before we start, I'd like to take a moment to congratulate Cynthia who announced plans to retire at the end of 2026. Her outstanding leadership and dedication to Enbridge over the past 25 years is inspiring and I'm grateful that she'll be continuing to provide guidance to our executive team through the end of next year. I'd also like to congratulate Matthew, who will transition to President of our Gas Transmission and Midstream (GTM) business at the end of this year, as well as Alan Capps, who has been appointed to succeed Matthew as the head of our Corporate Strategy Group and President of our Power business. As we've said before and it remains true today, our investment in people creates a deep bench of executive talent to ensure smooth transition and strong leadership as we move forward. Now, moving on to our agenda for this morning, I'm excited to share another strong quarter and highlight the significant progress we've made throughout all segments of our business. It has been a busy quarter for us with new projects serving a wide range of customers across our core franchises. We're going to start today with an update on our financial performance execution of our increasing number of secured growth projects and prospects, and I'll also highlight the strong returns and stability our business continues to demonstrate and provide an update on each of our four franchises. Pat will then walk through our financial results and capital allocation priorities and lastly, I'll close the presentation with a few comments on our first Choice value proposition before we open the line for questions from the investment community. We had another strong quarter of results, including record third quarter adjusted EBITDA. That growth was driven by incremental contributions from a full quarter of US Gas utilities and organic growth within our gas transmission business. This keeps us on track to finish the year in the upper half of our EBITDA guidance and we expect to land around the midpoint of our DCF per share metric. Our debt to EBITDA is 4.8 times for the quarter and remains within our leverage range of 4.5 to 5 times. Our assets remained highly utilized during the quarter, with the mainline transporting approximately 3.1 million barrels per day, a third quarter record. Thanks to strong demand, we reached positive settlements at both Enbridge Gas North Carolina and Enbridge Gas Utah, which we expect to drive growth as rates begin to take effect. We're still on track to sanction mainline optimization phase one this quarter and Phase two next year, and we'll get into more details on those projects during the business update. Over the quarter, we added $3 billion of new growth capital to our Secured Capital program, showcasing continued execution on the commitments we laid out last Enbridge Day. In liquids, we sanctioned the Southern Illinois Connector adding incremental egress out of Western Canada and providing a new long term contracted service to Nederland, Texas. In gas transmission, we sanctioned expansions of our Eagan and Moss Bluff storage facilities to support the LNG buildout along the US Gulf coast and in the Deepwater Gulf. We're expanding our previously approved Canyon system to provide transportation services for BP's recently sanctioned Tiber offshore development, and earlier in the quarter we sanctioned the Algonquin Gas Transmission Enhancement Project, the US Northeast as well as the Eiger Express gas pipeline out of the Permian. And finally, we have advanced a joint venture with OXY to develop the Pelican CO2 hub in Louisiana. These projects demonstrate the competitive edge from our all of the above approach and our ability to meet growing energy demand across all parts of our business. Now let's look at our value proposition and recap our year to date execution before diving into the business. Business Updates Enbridge's low risk model continues to deliver superior risk adjusted returns in all economic cycles. Our cash flows are diversified from over 200 high quality asset streams and businesses that are underpinned by regulated or take or pay frameworks. Over 95% of our customers have investment grade credit ratings, we have negligible commodity price exposure and the majority of our EBITDA has inflation protection. All of this results in Enbridge's industry leading total shareholder return while maintaining lower volatility compared to peers and broad index constituents. Looking ahead, Enbridge's utility like business model remains well positioned and policy support for new investment in critical projects is improving, creating a business environment that incents coordination, dialogue and growth. And I'm very pleased with how the team continues to grow the business and excited by the opportunities ahead for Enbridge. With that said, let's jump into the business unit updates Starting with Liquids segment, mainline volumes had another strong quarter, delivering a record 3.1 million barrels per day on average for Q3. The system was apportioned for the entire quarter, reflecting continued strong demand for Canadian crude and the need for reliable egress out of the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin. Given the continued strong demand for the Mainline this year we expect to reach the top of the performance color ahead of when we initially anticipated. This is a great sign for us and our shippers. We're achieving the maximum allowable returns under the Mainline tolling settlement, delivering competitive value to our shareholders and our alignment with customers incentivizes us to move the increased volumes and provide them with access to the best markets. This leads in well to mainline optimization projects that I'll discuss shortly here. In addition to the previously announced projects like Mainline Capital investment in the U.S. we sanctioned the Southern Illinois Connector project which is backed by long term contracts for full pass service from Western Canada to Nederland, Texas. Once complete, the new pathway will add 100,000 barrels per day of contracted full path capacity to the US Gulf coast via 30,000 barrel increase per day on Express Plat system, 56 miles of new pipeline between Wood river and Patoka, and utilization of 70,000 barrels per day of existing capacity on the Spearhead pipeline. Looking ahead at additional egress projects, we are continuing to advance approximately 400,000 barrels per day of incremental capacity to the best refining markets in North America via Mainline Optimization Phase 1 and 2 MLO1, which will add 150,000 barrels per day of incremental egress, is entering the final stages of customer approvals and we are still on track to make FID this quarter and place the project into service in 2027. MLO2 has made significant progress as well and that project could now add another 250,000 barrels per day of additional capacity in 2028. The second phase of mainline optimization will utilize capacity on the Dakota Access Pipeline and we're happy to announce that we're teaming up with Energy Transfer to make that happen. So stay tuned for more on MLO2, including an open season announcement early in the new year. Relative to potential greenfield projects that would require significant energy policy change, these brownfield opportunities offer the quickest and most cost effective way to add in close to 500,000 barrels a day of capacity to satisfy the near term production increases forecasted out of the basin. Finally, for liquids, we added the Pelican Sequestration Hub to our backlog, a project in Louisiana which will provide transportation and sequestration for 2.3 million tons per year of CO2 and is underpinned by 25 year take or pay offtake agreements. We will partner with Occidental Petroleum to advance the hub with Enbridge managing the pipeline infrastructure while Oxy develops the sequestration facility. Now let's turn to our gas transmission business. This quarter we've sanctioned an additional capital efficient connection to our Canyon Pipeline system to support BP's Tiber development in the Deepwater Gulf. Originally announced last October, the Canyon system will transport both crude oil and natural gas under long term contracts with the Tiber system expected to cost $300 million US taking the total canyon pipeline development to about a billion dollars US and entering service in 2029. In the US Northeast, the AGT enhancement will increase capacity of the Algonquin pipeline, providing additional natural gas to the critically under supplied US Northeast, serving local utility demand and reducing winter price volatility. That project is expected to cost $300 million US and enter into service in 2029, switching over to the Permian. The Eiger Express pipeline is a 2½ BCF a day Permian egress development running adjacent to the operating Matterhorn Express system and is now sanctioned and expected to enter into service in 2028. Since our initial 2024 investment in the Whistler Joint Venture which holds these pipelines, we have invested $2 billion in operating assets and sanctioned another billion dollars of capital expected to enter service through 2028. Also in the Gulf region, we've sanctioned two natural gas storage expansions to support the market, which continues to tighten due to increased lng, Mexican exports and regional power demand. Egan and Mas Bluff storage systems, both salt caverns with exceptional connectivity and withdrawal rates, are being expanded to offer a combined 23 bcf of incremental capacity. We expect to invest approximately $500 million in these facilities at five to six times EBITDA builds and come into service in phases through 2033. It's worth taking a moment to dive a little deeper into the growing North American storage market and and how we are positioned to serve our customers between Moss Bluff and Eagan. As well as the expansion of Aiken Creek announced last quarter, Enbridge is now set to add over 60 bcf of new natural gas storage directly adjacent to the major LNG centers in North America. These expansions will come in a timely manner as There is over 17 BCF per day of additional LNG related natural gas demand expected to enter service by 2030. This demand dramatically shifts supply economics and increases the importance of strategically located storage capacity. We are connected to all operating US Gulf Coast LNG terminals and continue to invest heavily in infrastructure to enable the future growth of North American LNG. To date we have sanctioned over $10 billion in projects with direct adjacency to operating or planned export facilities. There is a growing storage deficit across the U.S. gulf and British Columbia coasts and having existing assets with the opportunity to execute brownfield expansions is incredibly valuable to our customers and investors. Through acquisitions and expansions, we have positioned ourselves as an industry leader in the storage space. With more than 600 BCF of storage across our North American businesses, we can strongly support our customers as they continue to build out North America's LNG capacity and navigate the overall power demand growth we are expecting in the future. Now let's spend a few minutes recapping all the work we've done in gas transmission segment since Enbridge Day earlier this year. At our investor day in March, we shared Enbridge's $23 billion gas transmission opportunity set, noting the potential to fit up to $5 billion in projects within 18 months. This opportunity set is growing since then and today, A little over six months later, we've already announced over $3 billion of new projects across our footprint serving all pillars of natural gas demand growth including reshoring LNG coal to gas switching and data centers. With over 23 bcf a day of new gas demand coming online by 2030, critical investment will be needed to ensure reliable service for customers with this list here you can see we are doing our part deploying capital to meet the significant increase in natural gas demand across North America regardless of the end use market. Now let's turn to our gas distribution business. The GDS segment is yet another way for us to capitalize on power demand theme. We've seen data center and Power Gen opportunities continue to be a tailwind for the segment with over 50 opportunities that could serve up to 5bcf a day of demand, including almost 1bcf per day of demand for already secured projects. During the quarter we also reached positive rate settlements with two of our US Utility regulators which are currently being reviewed for final approval. In North Carolina, allowed return on equity increased to 9.65% on an equity thickness of 54%, resulting in a revenue requirement increase of some US $34 million. The settlement also introduces additional rate riders that allows for quick cycle return of capital for our major projects. In North Carolina, these rates came into effect on an interim basis on November 1st. In Utah we filed a settlement for a revenue requirement of $62 million US which supports continued investment at attractive returns. We're expecting a rate order before the end of the year with rates to come in effect on January 1, 2026. Both these rate cases showcase the importance of natural gas as a safe, reliable source of affordable energy. Now we'll continue with the power demand theme with our renewable segment. As you can see from this slide, renewable projects have been a great place to invest in the last few years, driven by strong PPA prices, decreasing supply costs and the associated tax benefits. The four projects on this slide showcase the over 2 gigawatts of power, backed by agreements with some of the largest technology and data center players in the world, including Amazon and Meta. Fox, Squirrel and Orange Grove are currently operational. Sequoia Solar will fully enter service in 2026 and Clear Fork will follow entering service in 2027. Looking ahead, we still have a number of projects in the queue that that we're advancing, but as always we'll remain opportunistic and continue to stand by our strict investment criteria. With that, I'll now pass it to Pat to go over our financial performance.

Pat Murray - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - (00:18:10)

Thanks Greg and good morning everyone. It's been another strong quarter across all four business units thanks to continued high utilization of our assets as well as recent acquisitions. Compared to the third quarter of 2024, adjusted EBITDA is up $66 million DCF per share is relatively flat and EPS is down from $0.55 to $0.46 per share. The decrease in EPS is primarily due to the profile change associated with our gas utilities where Q3 tends to be a softer quarter for EPS as EBITDA is seasonally lower but items such as interest and depreciation remain flat quarter over quarter in liquids. Despite the strong mainline volumes, contributions from the midcon and US Gulf coast segment are tracking lower due to tighter differentials and strong PADD2 refining demand. In gas transmission, we experienced a strong third quarter with favorable contracting and rate case outcomes on our US Gas transmission assets and contributions from the Venice Extension and the Permian Joint ventures we added since last year. The gas distribution segment is up relative to last year thanks to a full quarter contribution from Enbridge Gas North Carolina as well as benefit of the quick turn capital we experience within our Ohio utility in renewables. Results were up from last year with higher contributions from our wind assets and from the Orange Grove Solar facility recently placed into service. Higher financing and maintenance costs from the acquisition of the Ambridge Gas North Carolina assets kept DCF per share relatively flat year over year. I'm pleased to once again reaffirm our 2025 guidance and growth outlook across all metrics. Our resilient business model positions us to deliver strong and predictable results through all cycles. We remain confident we will achieve full year EBITDA in the upper half of our guidance range of $19.4 billion to $20 billion, but don't expect to exceed the top of the band. As we mentioned on previous quarterly calls due to higher interest rates, particularly in the US we continue to expect DCF per share at the midpoint of our $5.50 to 590 per share guidance range. Mainland volumes, FX rates and the acquisition of an interest in the Matterhorn Express pipeline earlier in the year continue to be the tailwinds to the full-year guide. This is partially offset by higher interest rates along with tight differentials and strong PADD2 refining levels which are expected to continue into the fourth quarter and thus have been reflected as an additional headwind relative to our assumptions heading into the year. Now let's quickly discuss our capital allocation priorities. We remain firmly committed to a thoughtful capital discipline process remaining within our 9 to 10 billion per year annual growth investment capacity as we pursue the wide suite of opportunities ahead. Our highly contracted cash flows support a growing and ratable dividend within our 60 to 70% DCF payout target range, ensuring long term shareholder returns. We've grown our dividend for 30 consecutive years, a real testament to the stability of our business and the fundamentals that underpin it on the leverage front. Our consolidated net debt to adjusted EBITDA remains comfortably within our target range of 4.5 to 5 times this quarter we saw 3 billion of newly sanctioned capital advanced. As I mentioned in the past, I like the fact that we're generating opportunities in all of our businesses, supplementing the next few years with accretive projects while also adding visibility into the back part of the decade with opportunities like our gas storage expansions and our offshore gas transmission projects which we've announced this quarter. Our capital allocation focus will remain with Brownfield highly strategic and economic projects supported by underlying energy fundamentals and I'm excited to see this opportunity set materialize into the future. With that, I'll pass it back to Greg to close the presentation.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:22:04)

Thanks very much Pat. It was indeed a busy quarter on the growth capital side and I'm extremely pleased with the progress we've made since Enbridge Day in March. The North American energy landscape continues to evolve with energy demand driven by LNG development, power generation, data centers and baseload growth. Enbridge will continue to play a pivotal role in that growth within a disciplined framework that delivers consistent long term shareholder value. Our low risk utility, like business with predictable cash flows is underpinned by long term agreements and regulatory mechanisms that has allowed us to increase our dividend for 30 consecutive years across a wide range of economic cycles and conditions. Going forward, we expect to achieve 5% growth through the end of the decade, supported by our $35 billion in secured capital. Our scale offers optionality that few in our industry possess and we'll continue to evaluate accretive investments across our footprint. Lastly, I'll just point out one housekeeping item. As has been typical, we intend to issue our 26 guidance for investors in early December. So please watch for that announcement on December 3rd. With that I'll open the call to questions.

OPERATOR - (00:23:26)

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one in your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press Star one again. Your first question today comes from the line of Spirodunas from Citi. Your line is open. Thanks operator. Morning team wanted to start with gas distribution and storage. The release mentioned seeing an acceleration there in commercial activity and sounds like demand from data centers and power beating those initial expectations. So just multi part question here but curious what's suddenly driving that acceleration? If there's a particular region where you're seeing it and how are you thinking about the timeframe for when these could start to materialize.

Michelle Herodins - Gas Distribution and Storage - (00:24:09)

Sure. So it's Michelle Harridin, Sierra Spiro, and happy to discuss that. And I would say we're seeing it across the board. I mean that's the, that's the real value of the, the diversity of the utilities we have. So when we look at about the projects that make up that 7bcf or so of data center opportunities that we're talking about, we divide that aspect into what I'd call our baseload demand, our data centers itself and the coal to gas. So it's a lot about, it's a lot about power generation. It's the electrification tailwind that we've talked about. So you could bucket that. I would say the baseload demand is there in Ontario, it's there in Ohio, it's there in Utah. Data center growth, lots of early-stage developments in Ohio and Utah in particular, I would say we're seeing up to 8 gigawatts between the two of them. And that's some of the early stage developments we're seeing. And then the mid stage stuff, we're estimated to be serving over 6 gigawatts in those two jurisdictions alone. And Ontario has a lot of growth as well. And then finally coal to gas conversion again to support power generation would be in North Carolina. But really when we look across all the capital opportunities we have for GDS, that's maybe 20% of what we're looking at is the data center and power generation opportunity. I mean, just the good standard core utility growth, leveraging our modernization program, still lots of opportunity there. We're seeing a lot of what I'd call major projects. We just put our prep, our Panhandle regional project into service. That's close to $360 million. In Southwest Ontario, we have our Mariah energy center, the LNG plant. In North Carolina, we have T15 phase one and two in North Carolina, that's. Those two combined are $1.2 billion. The US alone, we're doing a reinforcement project in Ontario. Up in Ottawa, that's another $200 million. I mean there's a lot of growth and opportunity going on in the utilities and, and then our residential growth, although it's softened in Ontario, continues to be strong in places like North Carolina and Utah where there's a lot of folks coming. And finally we're looking at our storage opportunities and there's a good chunk of our capital that continues to go to storage for us. So a good suite of capital there. But hopefully that answers your question.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:26:22)

Yeah, good upside, Spiro, from what we thought when we bought the assets two years ago. We didn't. A lot of the folks hadn't seen the data center stuff, particularly in places like Ohio. We knew Utah and North Carolina would grow nicely, but Ohio, the opportunity there that's happening on the industrial side and the power side and data center related is really great. I think people are kind of forgetting the fact it's not just about power right across the board, not only the secondary benefits, I.e. industrial growth, Caterpillars, GES, et cetera, having to build things and equipment. There's tertiary growth associated with DCN AI, which is really going to drive all these commodities, including oil. As you see higher GDP, higher industrial growth. Who's building all this stuff? They're using gasoline, they're using diesel, they're using oil and that. So I see it right across the entire system.

Spirodunas - (00:27:17)

Great. Helpful color. Second question, maybe just going to line five. You all recently received a favorable decision from the Army Corps there and it sounds like you expect state permits to be confirmed soon. So just curious how you're thinking about starting construction on that segment and how did the outstanding item Michigan play into next steps here?

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:27:38)

Hey, sure, Spirit's Colin here, so I'll try to abbreviate this answer. Sometimes line 5 questions can get a little longer, but I would say that the permitting on both the Wisconsin reroute and the Michigan tunnel are, you know, regaining momentum, obviously with the White House on energy security and just getting things done. So I would say that we are in Wisconsin here. We're awaiting the administrative law judges findings on the hearing that we've recently completed. Should have that soon and we'd look to complete the Wisconsin Reroute in 2027 and the tunnel is a few years behind that.

Spirodunas - (00:28:30)

Great. I'll leave it there for today. Thanks everyone.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:28:33)

Thanks, Drew.

Aaron McNeil - Equity Analyst - (00:28:36)

Your next question comes from the line of Aaron McNeil from TD Cowan. Your line is open. Hey. Morning all. Thanks for taking my questions. It's great to see the new disclosure around Mainline Optimization Phase 2. Am I right to view this as an acceleration in terms of the cadence that you're planning to offer expanded egress to Canadian producers? And if so, what's driving that expedited timing? Is it customer demand? Is it sort of a race to be first to market? How should we think about it?

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:29:07)

Well, maybe I'll start with a little context because I think you're right, this is maybe not when some people expect it. Although I'd say people have always underestimated what we can do with that super system. So remember, first of all, you got customers out there that are in particular Canadian customers. Looking at from an oil sands perspective, you don't have the type of depletion issues that are going on in some of the shale plays. You've got a strong US dollar which is critical driving netbacks. So you get, you got quite a different environment going on obviously in Canada and some other jurisdictions that analysts may focus from that perspective, but really attitude of customers and what we can offer. But Colin, you want to talk about that super system element of it?

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:29:54)

Yeah, I think, I don't know that it's an acceleration error per se. I think it's, it's being game on here for a while here. And I think the Canadian Basin, as Greg was saying, is, you know, turns out relatively advantaged compared to other basins. So you know, maybe go focus on it. But our customers haven't. And we've been all over the fundamentals. We see that 5, 600,000 a day of supply growth by the end of the decade. I think our announcements here line up with what we talked about at Ambridge Day generally. I mean the team is working hard on this and I'm very proud of them. The engineering and commercialization of it, very creative and trying to seize the moment. You know, yeah, there's, if there's bigger policy unlocks, there could be, you know, much more upside to monetize the trillions of dollars of value up in northern Alberta. But even under the base case, the 600,000 a day is significant. We have I think consistently talked about our southbound playbook. And yeah, if there is an unlock much bigger, you know, then the west solution can come into focus, kind of a companion to that unlock. But in the base case, south is. Where. Our customers prefer that direction. Integrated business models, lots of big efficient, long live refineries that are very competitive. And of course less competition now from Venezuela and Mexico, inbound heavy. So Canadian oil will gain market share in that basin. I think our solution set is unchanged. We're proud to sanction Southern Illinois Connector, maybe in baseball terms. That's our leadoff hitter and it's now on base. We've sanctioned this. This is a dual flow path. 30,000 of nui grass on plat and the other 70 coming down our spearhead pipeline existing capacity. And we're going to move that on EDCOP with our, which we partially own with our Partner Energy Transfer. ML001 is at the plate right now and we expect to make commercializing announcement here in the next couple of months before year end again, that's 150 a day. I think that's well chronicled. It's capital efficient, permit light using existing pipe and right of way. And recall, we've already successfully run an open season on the funding and south path through Seaway with our partner with partner Enterprise Products. So that's well advanced. So ML002, to continue the analogy here, I'd say is in the batter's box and as Pat and Greg mentioned, it's got a bigger bat than we thought we had before. We've upsized that from 150 to 250 a day. And again, similar to ML01, existing pipe and right of way. And so again using joint venture partners. This is all coming together nicely. Not acceleration, but I think continuing through here and hopefully get the bases loaded.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:33:23)

Yeah, I hope it. And obviously not lost on you, Aaron, but as Colin goes through that, you just tick off all those pipeline systems, and it's not just about the main line. You got Express plat, you got ENCAP, you got DAPA, of which we own all other parts of, right through the whole system. So there's multiple ways for us to serve our customers and multiple ways for our investors to win. And that's the pretty exciting part that I don't always feel gets fully valued in the market.

Aaron McNeil - Equity Analyst - (00:33:50)

For sure. That's a ton of great context. Thank you for that. As a related follow up, you know, a significant portion of the 35 billion of secured capital comes into service in 2027. As we think about all these liquids projects that you just outlined, you know, continued success in gtm, steady growth across the utilities. Do you see sort of a. I guess what I'll call a high plateau in terms of capital entering into service towards the end of the decade? And do you see any timing or capital sequencing issues to maintain the spend between 9 and 10 billion?

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:34:30)

Maybe Pat will want to add to. This, but I don't think so. I mean, we're constantly adding to the back end. You know, you look. I think that's not unusual for companies like ourselves. You know, just go through stuff the Colin went through. Right. You're talking 27, 28 and then 29, 30. You'll see additional pieces as well. The gas trend, deep golf stuff is all 29. Storage piece comes in some late 29, 33. So I think it'll stay up at that amount. That's what gives us the confidence on 5% growth. It's a bit of a flywheel that's going on right now, which is quite positive. But from a, from a balance sheet perspective, feel very good about that. Nine to ten, Pat?

Pat Murray - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - (00:35:10)

Yeah, I think so. At the end of the day we've, you know, we've got a pretty fulsome 26 now. We've reserved some capacity for these MLL1s and 2s. I mean one, we'll have some spend in 26. Two, probably not as large as it's a little later, but we'll reserve some capacity given how confident we now are in those moving forward. And then as Greg said, we, we're really happy to continue to build out the back part of the decade and hopefully that's adding a lot of clarity into the growth that the enterprise can have. And I think it's pretty common in our infrastructure business where you have secured some capital for the next couple years. It's kind of close to or just below your capacity and then the out years you're filling up. And I think the team's done a great job in the last six months of doing that. So we're very comfortable.

Aaron McNeil - Equity Analyst - (00:35:58)

Makes sense. Thanks everyone. I'll turn it back.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:36:00)

Thanks, Eric.

Jeremy Tonette - Equity Analyst - (00:36:03)

Your next question comes from a line of. Jeremy Tonette from JP Morgan, your line is open. Hi, good morning.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:36:11)

Morning, Jeremy.

Jeremy Tonette - Equity Analyst - (00:36:14)

Just wanted to kind of maybe follow up a little bit on the last line of questions there with regards to growth over time and having talked about this 5% EBITDA growth potential over the medium term post 26. And I know you're not going to give us the December update today, but just wondering any foreshadowing you might be able to provide us here or thoughts into how we should be thinking about how the update could unfold.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:36:43)

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure we are going to give you much of that right now because as you say, it's December. But look, I think you, look, you've heard what we've been able to do on the gas side today with announcements, the liquid side. Michelle gave you a good tour de table on that side as well. And despite what some people have looked at, we've even done a number of things on the renewable power side in the last year. So I think it's the benefit of the portfolio and again those secondary and tertiary benefits of everything from power demand, from policy changes, from GDP growth that actually give us that confidence and we see growth right across the system. So if your question is do we see pullbacks in areas. No. In fact we see acceleration, you know, even the renewable stuff that we have a lot of that stuff's a long ways down the trail and anything we do sanction would have already been in a good spot from a policy perspective. So, and as, as Pat just mentioned, we've got the balance sheet capacity, internally generated cash flow to be able to meet those demands. And obviously every dollar of EBITDA we add, that's another four or five dollars of capacity. So we're very focused on that. So it's probably where I'd leave it today. I don't know. Pat, would you add anything further?

Pat Murray - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - (00:38:08)

Yeah, I mean, I think our message if you remember back six months ago at Enbridge Days was that the whole goal here was to add clarity into that back end of the decade growth rate. And I think it's fair to say that we're doing a substantial amount of projects that should help to clarify that. So, you know, we're confident in the growth rates that we put forward and we'll continue to add to this backlog. We know there's more to come and really every business which what I like the most about it, we've got a very diverse set of opportunities over what really turns out to be a five to seven year timeline now. So yes, we're feeling good about the growth rates.

Jeremy Tonette - Equity Analyst - (00:38:44)

Fair enough. Figure it's worth a try. Just want to dive in a little bit more into Western Canada and gas storage there. With LNG Canada ramping up, just wondering if you could provide maybe a little bit more color on the tone of customer conversations there. It seems like the market's going to need a lot more logistics. You're expanding gas storage capacity there. Just wondering if you could elaborate any more on how you see this unfolding. It seems like these would be fundamental tailwinds to rates and economics overall. But just wondering what you guys are seeing.

Cynthia Hansen - Gas Transmission - (00:39:21)

Yeah, thanks Jeremy, it's Cynthia Hanson. I would agree with you that we are having these tailwinds, particularly when it comes to storage. Of course, in the last quarter we announced our expansion, a significant expansion of our Aiken Creek storage. We are the only storage in that BC area. So we currently have about 77 BCF of storage there and we announced another 40 BCF. So that'll we'll start construction of that in the first part of next year and that'll be in service in a couple of years following that when we have the conversations. You know, it was when we announced that opportunity, we had 50% of that storage sign up right away in a long term contract so our customers understand that there is that opportunity and they're willing to back that kind of expansion. As we continue to look at other opportunities, the current discussions about LNG Canada, Phase two, all of that creates an opportunity not just for our storage, but for the opportunities to expand our west coast system. You know, we announced earlier this year that Birch Grove, which is an expansion of T North, that ties into that too. So strong opportunities. But I would say that we'd like to continue to see that growth of those opportunities for LNG export. That will need the support of the BC and the Canadian government as we go forward to make sure that we are positioning those projects to attract the capital they need in the long term to support that opportunity.

Jeremy Tonette - Equity Analyst - (00:41:13)

Got it. Very helpful, thank you.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:41:15)

Thanks. Jeremy.

Robert Catlier - Equity Analyst - (00:41:18)

Your next question comes from a line of Robert Catlier from CIBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Hey, good morning everyone. I'd like to go back to the data center and power generation opportunities. You know, obviously that's a hot part of the market right now and I think your own gas distribution business is advancing more than 4 billion of related projects. Can you provide some detail on how you're managing cost risk in particular in areas like that that are hot and where there's a lot of competition, supply chain constraints and customer focus on time to market?

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:41:55)

Yeah, obviously several areas there and as they relate to the gas distribution side, obviously, prudency kicks in. But recall, those are rate based type driven setups, right? So you're getting on a capital structure, I call it 10% return and in the US on about 50% equity. So as long as we're being prudent, I'm not feeling too concerned about that now. That being said, given the size of the company, we are actively and we're out there doing that, making sure that we've got good alliance agreements with various contractors giving us the best rates actually going forward and even stockpiling if you will, compressors and things like that. And remember, on the inflationary side I'd say about 30% of most of these large projects would be capex related to equipment and things like that. So those relationships are really critical and a lot of them obviously we're avoiding tariff structures through contract mechanisms as well. So far so good. The biggest concern I have is on the people side of things and just getting the time and equipment in place. So we're pretty good at that I think we feel in terms of those long term relationships with contractors and stuff like that. But Rob, it's something definitely we were watching closely. It's also why I love some of the projects that we announced today that are all relatively small as Colin said, singles and doubles and quick cycle, relatively small speaking so that you don't have long drawn out processes. And then the last piece is, as you know, a better attitude with policy around permitting and acceptance of these critical projects. And that takes a risk off the table from a CAPEX perspective as well.

Robert Catlier - Equity Analyst - (00:43:52)

Okay, that's very helpful. And then a bit of a regulatory question here for Colin and maybe we'll have to take this offline, but I'm curious about the mainline optimization too, and the interplay with the Dakota Access pipeline, given there's still some lingering permitting issues there. So maybe Colin, you could walk us through whatever relevant regulatory updates on DAPL that relate to the mainline optimization too.

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:44:21)

Yeah, sure, Robert. And it's a good question and one we thought through. So we don't need a new presidential permit across the border and we're confident that, you know, the DAPL EIS will come through in the spirit of energy security and energy dominance. So we're confident in that, that line of thinking.

Robert Catlier - Equity Analyst - (00:44:55)

Okay, thanks very much.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:44:57)

Thanks, Robert.

Rob Hope - Equity Analyst - (00:45:00)

Your next question comes from the line of Rob Hope from Scotiabank. Your line is open. Morning everyone. You've mentioned a couple times that the policy environment is getting better for energy infrastructure in Canada. How are you interfacing with the Canadian major projects office? Enbridge has over $8 billion of projects in development in BC. You could do more on the liquid side there as well. You know, is there a way to get incremental support to further derisk these projects?

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:45:32)

You know, at this point in time we haven't put projects through the office. It's great that it's set up. Hopefully that'll be helpful for those national interest projects. But most of the things, or all the things we're talking about are short cycle, relatively permanent light. And so we haven't seen the need to go down that route. But that being said, we've had several conversations with them. Obviously Don's well known in the industry and respected and has been very good to don't hesitate if you need some help around permits, et cetera and working through the labyrinth of the Canadian government. So we won't hesitate. But today, and I don't see that actually on any of the projects that we have. As you know, we have several billion dollars of projects being done in B.C. things Collins talked about today, but a lot of them are relatively permanent light and even not giant capex as individual chunks. So I just don't see us using the major project office at this point in time.

Rob Hope - Equity Analyst - (00:46:41)

I appreciate that color and then maybe Just going back to the main line. Appreciate all the details on further expansions, Colin, but maybe to dive in a little deeper. And I know it's early days, but what would an ML03 look like and how much more incremental capacity do you think you can get out of the basin without, we'll call it a good amount of large diamond pipe.

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:47:06)

Hey, Robert, you're reading my mind. So we've got some, some hitters warming up in the dugout. MLO 3 and 4 stretching. Our engineers are looking at that as well because there is a scenario here, right, where Canada and the U.S. do a bigger trade deal and energy is part of it. And the imperative, you know, may accelerate further. So we do have, you know, some again in court or, you know, in fence line solutions for that, but it's premature for us to probably talk about those.

Rob Hope - Equity Analyst - (00:47:48)

All right, appreciate that and the baseball references. Thanks.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:47:52)

Too soon maybe.

Manav Gupta - Equity Analyst - (00:47:55)

Your next question comes from the line of Manav Gupta from ubs. Your line is open. Good morning. We are actually seeing a lot of resurgence in solar stocks in the US and you actually have a very strong solar portfolio, but because you have everything else which is also so good sometimes it's underlooked. So can you talk a little bit about your renewables portfolio and solar in particular and more deals like Clear Fork with Meta. If you could talk on those points, please.

Matthew Ackman - (00:48:24)

Sure, I'm enough. It's Matthew here. Yeah, you're quite right. I mean, I think investment discipline is the order of the day in renewables given some of the cross currents in the policy landscape. But we have to keep our eye also on the opportunity here because the customer demand for this remains very, very strong. We are still in the window where we've got interconnection ready projects that are in fantastic locations with strong local support and great resource, while the, while the production tax credit window remains open. And so, you know, there's definitely a lot of interest from customers on the data center side around that. In particular on our solar portfolio, we've talked about Project Cowboy in Wyoming. We are building, you know, a lot of stuff as you know, you mentioned Clear Fork with Meta in ercot. But that Wyoming project has a tremendous amount of interest and you know, is potentially a very big one and is well advanced. And so, you know, again, we're going to be navigating carefully but there should be win wins here because customers know that there's this window and there aren't that many projects that can actually get in, into their windows and they need the Electrons and they want it if possible lower zero emissions. So I think we're really well positioned. But again we'll be navigating this and with a very close eye on risk profile and making sure that we are consistent with our low risk business model across everything we do.

Manav Gupta - Equity Analyst - (00:50:18)

Perfect. My quick follow up is your partner Energy Transfer talked about the Southern Illinois Connector. Exactly the kind of crude that US refiners need. Can you also highlight some of the benefits of this project and can you confirm if this is probably 2028 startup? If you could talk a little bit about that.

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:50:37)

Yeah, yeah. Thanks Manav. Yeah, I agree with your thesis. And what else can I tell you here? This is, this is a new market off our mainline system two Needle in Texas. And yeah, you can imagine we've got a map of all the refineries and we're, we're trying to feed all of them. We've got about 75% of U.S. refineries connected to our mainline system. So this isn't a new market for us. Technically not super complex using existing capacity on Spearhead, just longer hauling that capacity. It used to go to the Patoka area. Now that of the 200 on spearhead will go down to Needle in Texas and we're expanding the plat system. Pretty simple scope there. Pump refurbishment. So high confidence execution. And so yeah, the timeline should work.

Manav Gupta - Equity Analyst - (00:51:39)

Thank you so much. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Sam Burwell from Jefferies. Your line is open. Hey, good morning guys. Some of this been touched on already but just a quick one on Southern Illinois and the full pass. I mean the, the mainline optimization seemed like they're on the right track. And mainline volumes were 3Q record but downstream of that low volumes and 3Q and it seems like it's going to be a headwind in 4Q as well. So just curious if you have a view on when that could improve and then is there anything to read into the 100,000 barrels of a day capsity on Southern Illinois? Because I think the open season figure was higher than that like 200. So just curious and your thoughts on full path volumes improving over time?

Sam Burwell - Equity Analyst - (00:52:28)

Sure, I can take that. So.

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:52:34)

I think it's a temporary anomaly here that that path on our liquid system south of Chicago down to the Gulf has been pretty robustly used for a long time. It's been recently weaker still pretty good but a little bit weaker as you saw in article. As Pat talked about it, That is due really not you know, the weakness, you know, south per se, but more so that, that demand, that upper pad to demand has been unusually strong in the last quarter or two. So higher absorption of that high mainline throughput just a bit further north. And so double click on that. Why is that? A couple reasons. One, product levels were lower given, you know, fuel demands. And so those refiners were running pretty hard. So higher, higher utilizations to replenish those inventories. And secondly, they had, I would say, higher than average just uptime. And so the combination of those two factors kept a lot of that mainline oil at home, so to speak, in the upper padd 2 market. You know, I think Q4 should be maybe a little better than Pat suggested. We've seen some, some early quarter improvements here. And then moreover, I think just longer term we, we've got a lot of confidence in that path. In fact, we just have successfully run two open seasons for that, for that path. Both have been oversubscribed to expand it. So I, I'd say it's a temporary effect. Oh, you also asked about 200 versus 100. Yeah. Pardon me. So, yeah, we, we're pretty happy with 150 with our partner there. We actually had over subscription for the 100, but we end up settling it at 100. It's just the most efficient kind of sweet spot on that project for economics overall.

Sam Burwell - Equity Analyst - (00:54:50)

Okay. Thank you.

Alaina Ben Pham - (00:54:53)

Much appreciated. Thank you. Your next question comes from Alaina. Ben Pham from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. Hi, good morning. I wanted to touch base first on the Woodside LNG project. Could you remind us going forward how the mechanism works on a contract as you close on the, on the in service dates?

Cynthia Hanson - (00:55:20)

Yeah, I think you mean wood fiber. Cynthia can take that. You mean wood fiber. Sorry.

Alaina Ben Pham - (00:55:26)

Yeah.

Cynthia Hanson - (00:55:26)

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. So the way our contract works is that we will be setting that final toll closer to the in service date. So with our contract terms we will get our return based on that toll structure that's finalized at that date. So we continue to benefit from the delay in that term as the costs increase in that will allow us to actually have limited exposure to some of these cost overruns that we're starting to see on that project. Now we are really excited though that we're 50% complete overall on the construction and we believe that there's a really strong path to getting us to the 2027 in service day.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:56:22)

Now the other thing, we'll have to see how it plays out. But the Canadian budget did have some accelerated bonus depreciation for LNG projects that have low emissions. And I Think as we've talked about before, this will be amongst, if not the lowest emission LNG project globally given how it's getting its power. So we'll watch for that. Which should be helpful from a return perspective as well.

Alaina Ben Pham - (00:56:50)

Got it. And I have to chuckle when I said Woodside because I did have a follow up question on that partnership. More specifically, just think about your investments on the BC coast. And I'm curious just with LNG addition ahead and some of the strategic partnership you've seen with Williams in particular, is there appetite for Enbridge? Maybe not something specifically like that, but maybe just appetite for LNG beyond we have right now.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (00:57:22)

Yeah. You know, Ben, we're not opportunity light. We are opportunity rich. So us taking on, I can't see us taking on an LNG facility with commodity exposure, which is what some other folks that you mentioned have done. You know, we'll get done the Woodside opportunity here and then we'll, we'll see. Obviously there's a lot of water still to go under the bridge about getting things built in off the B.C. coast. So let's continue with our wood fiber project. Sorry I said Woodside. Now you got me saying it. The wood fiber project before we look at other ones and you know, look, you saw us announce today those storage projects are serving LNG on the Gulf Coast. Aiken's going to serve LNG in bc. A lot of the projects that Cynthia mentioned, the pipeline project, that's the stuff we know and know very well and earn solid regulated rates of return on. I think in this environment that's probably a better setup for us. So, you know, we'll always look, we get an opportunity to take a look at everything. But I don't think our investor proposition is open to taking on a bunch of commodity exposure. And we don't want to.

Maurice Choi - Equity Analyst - (00:58:32)

Okay. Understand. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Maurice Choi from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Thank you. And good morning everyone. First question is about your crude oil production growth projections. I remember back in Enbridge day, you've made a forecast that you may see more than a million barrels a day of growth through to 2030. Assuming that projection was made based on the landscape at that point in time, how would you view this growth now given what appears to be a supportive regulatory and political landscape in Canada?

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (00:59:16)

It's. Colin, yeah, great, great question. And you know, I think our, I think both of those projections are, I think internally consistent and I think our view of that is stable. There is an upside scenario here that if Canadian federal policy, you know, comes through on this vision of a global energy superpower, which we believe in strongly, we have a unique perch on that. I think there is upside, there's for sure upside in that scenario. But it's an if at this point. It's an if at this point. So we've calibrated our business plan to the base case and to a question a few minutes ago, are generating further solutions if the upside comes to be.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (01:00:17)

You'Re going to get a good insight on that I think as well. Maurice. Right. Because if the policy conditions form in Canada that ensure that as a producing nation it's actually competitive, the first sign of that's going to be our producers and then being more optimistic about production and then we'll be able to react as capital form. But at this point in time, we wouldn't change the million by 2035. And the MLOs and the Southern Illinois Connector and our mainline investment capital is all consistent with how we see that rolling out between now and the end of the decade. All other things being equal.

Maurice Choi - Equity Analyst - (01:01:02)

That makes sense. If I could finish off with a question on the Pelican CO2 hub. Oftentimes these types of projects are perceived to have a lower return than the four to six times bill multiple that you can deliver within liquids pipeline outside the mainline. Recognizing that you do have a internal competition for capital among your various businesses, I wonder if you could comment on the returns here or just more broadly about lower carbon opportunities. How do they compete for capital internally?

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (01:01:34)

Yeah, look, I think both ourselves and Oxy are pretty darn careful on this front. If this project didn't earn at least the returns that we get from other liquids projects, as you say, outside the mainline, it wouldn't have got sanctioned. So obviously I would even argue there's always some policy risk. So you want to make sure you get this right. So this is very much in that wheelhouse, if not a bit better. And obviously the tax incentive structures, we've got a lot more clarity on that out of the, you know, the Build Back Better (BBB) bill that came out so that we know exactly what our tax incentives are on that. And it's got a long term 20, 25 year contract with offtake players. So I would say returns are at least, if not a little bit better than what we're seeing in this world. Policy support is there where it may not be for some of the other unconventional investments. And we love our partner on this front who has very similar return type parameters. I might just add on that's Great to hear. I was just going to layer on that. It's a very selective investment. We're going to take a crawl walk, run approach to developing low carbon infrastructure. I think the pace of it generally is a lot slower than most observed few years ago. So we're going to take a very careful and disciplined approach here, as Greg mentioned.

Maurice Choi - Equity Analyst - (01:03:06)

Sounds great to hear my, I guess all the best to Cynthia on your retirement and congrats to Matthew and your new role.

Cynthia Hansen - Gas Transmission - (01:03:13)

Thank you.

Matthew Ackman - (01:03:13)

Thank you.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (01:03:14)

Thank you.

Teresa Chen - Equity Analyst - (01:03:17)

Your next question comes from a line of Teresa Chen from Berkeley's. Your line is open. Good morning. Thank you for squeezing me in. I would also like to congratulate Cynthia on her retirement. Thank you for all your insights over the years. And I'd like to congratulate Matthew as well on his new role. Going back to the discussion around the mainline expansion. So when it comes to resourceful solutions for moving incremental WCS barrels to the US Gulf coast, leveraging your JV system with energy transfer is certainly capable capital efficient approach. And as the downstream southbound capacity fills up over time, have you or would you also consider partnering with other pipelines such as Capline, which also runs from the upper mid continent to the Gulf coast and currently has available capacity?

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (01:04:07)

Yeah, Theresa and I think joint ventures are a big part of Rembridge's playbook. Cynthia's got a bunch, Matthew's got a bunch, we've got a bunch in our portfolio and we're proud to partner with basically everyone in the industry and I think that's gonna be a part of everybody's playbook going forward. We also partner with Enterprise Products on Seaway. We've, we've gone from, you know, zero barrels a day through that system to what's going on to be, you know, not far from now, you know, a million barrels a day. So I think we've utilized joint ventures extensively. We've got a whole bunch of others. Across the system as well. So we're, we're open to that. I think, you know, teamwork makes the dream work here in a, you know, exciting environment.

Teresa Chen - Equity Analyst - (01:05:10)

Got it. And looking at your medium term outlook, not asking you to front run the guidance update to come, but just looking at what's already out there. How do you plan to align DCF per share growth with EBITDA growth over time? That 5%, given that DCF per share has recently trailed the dot growth, what are the key drivers in bridging the two over time?

Pat Murray - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - (01:05:31)

Yeah, it's Pat, thanks for the question. Yeah, I think we, you know, have been pretty clear that the reason they kind of disconnected over the last couple of years was primarily related to cash taxes. And we see that plateauing. We've seen some pretty positive tax decisions made in the US there's lots of conversations about things that could happen in Canada, but generally we just see that the cash taxes are returning to be more in line with not having the growth that it had over the last number of years. So that's why those two primarily converge as you move later into the decade.

Teresa Chen - Equity Analyst - (01:06:12)

Thank you.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (01:06:14)

Thanks Teresa.

Pranice Satish - (01:06:17)

Your next question comes from the line of Pranice Satish from Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Thanks. Good morning. On the Eagan and Moss Bluff gas storage expansions, can you break down how much of the 23 BCF capacity capacity is already committed under long term contracts versus any shorter term contracts or merchant capacity? And then given that you're moving forward with the expansion, I assume pricing is favorable, much higher than historical levels. But can you provide some color on the contract durations? Is it kind of in the typical three to five year range or are you able to get something longer in this environment? And then I guess that's a follow up to that. Like how do you think about the trade off between locking in longer storage term contracts versus keeping them shorter so that you could potentially benefit from higher recontracting rates in the future.

Cynthia Hansen - Gas Transmission - (01:07:11)

Thanks, Praneet. Cynthia, I would say that where we are right now we have Eagan, the first cavern that we're developing there is about 50% contracted and will over a period of time like into that we're managing these assets. You know, it's an existing portfolio. So we're going to manage those contract terms consistently with how we've operated those assets. When we look at the overall contract terms, it is a speed from, you know, that two to five year kind of average overall. We always look for those longer terms as to be part of that port portfolio. But as you noted, you know, just with the opportunities right now as we continue to see the demand for storage increase and we've seen some strong pricing associated with that, that's really supporting this ongoing development that we're doing. We'll want to try and manage the portfolio to really optimize that structure as we go forward.

Greg Ebel - President and CEO - (01:08:14)

Yeah, and that that three to five years, two to five years, pretty typical the way that we've done it historically. And look, I think we've got a super high level of confidence in the LNP coming in on the Gulf coast. So that probably lets us, you know, leg into the contracts and we want to, but it depends on the location. Right. Like for example, the Aiken Creek contract. I think we took about half of that and have it under a 10 year contract. So it just depends on the situation and it's worked out extraordinarily well. I'm glad you raised the storage question because you know, we've got 600 bees or so so across North America, all with great optionality outside the regulated piece. But you know, we're adding just the announcements in the last 12 months, 10% to that number. So it's a, it's a big uptick for us at the right time in the market. And I feel very good, as Cynthia says, the way we'll leg into this.

Pranice Satish - (01:09:12)

Thank you. And then I'm sure you saw that Plains recently announced the acquisition of the remaining interest in the epic crude pipeline. They've talked about potentially expanding the pipeline. May or may not do it, but if they do, seems like it could be a positive for your Ingleside assets. So just curious, you know, if you have any thoughts on that deal or just the overall landscape now at Corpus and the puts and takes for your Ingleside and gray oak assets.

Colin Grunding - Liquids Pipelines - (01:09:42)

Yeah, yeah, it's Colin here. Yeah. And we've, we've observed that obviously and we're partners with, with planes on Cactus 2 already. I'm sure there's more work we can, we can do together. You know, to the spirit of the question a couple minutes ago on teaming up, our franchise is, remains a work in progress, but it's, but it's still a really a good one. Ingleside is the number one export terminal on the continent. It's poised to grow. You know, all the advantages it has. Gray oaks. Great. So we're pretty confident with our system there and hopefully can do even more with plants going forward.

Pranice Satish - (01:10:26)

Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks.

OPERATOR - (01:10:30)

And that concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Rebecca Morley for closing remarks.

Rebecca Morley - Vice President of Investor Relations and Insurance - (01:10:38)

Great. Thank you. And we appreciate your ongoing interest in Enbridge. As always. Our investor relations team is available following the call for any additional questions that you may have. Once again, thanks so much and have a great day.

OPERATOR - (01:10:52)

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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