Enviri lowers guidance as Clean Earth shines amidst rail challenges
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Enviri reports record quarterly performance from Clean Earth, but lowers Q4 outlook due to rail demand weakness and operating costs


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  • Enviri reported a third-quarter revenue of $575 million and an adjusted EBITDA of $74 million, both highs for the year, but below initial expectations due to weak rail demand.
  • The company is undergoing a strategic review aimed at unlocking value within its business portfolio, particularly focusing on the Clean Earth segment, which has seen significant interest from potential buyers.
  • Clean Earth achieved record performance with revenues and earnings growing in single digits and a margin exceeding 17%. The company expects continued strong performance in Q4.
  • HRSCO Environmental saw margin improvements and generated $30 million in free cash flow in Q3, with expectations of better performance in 2026 due to new contracts and cost management.
  • Rail segment challenges persist with sluggish demand for standard products and aftermarket parts, although management is taking steps to improve operations and expects cash flow to turn positive by 2027.
  • The company lowered its full-year outlook due to ongoing issues in the rail segment and cost challenges in HRSCO Environmental.
  • Management is optimistic about 2026, citing potential improvements in steel industry volumes and the positive impact of strategic initiatives.

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OPERATOR - (00:01:09)

Good morning everyone. My name is Jamie and I'll be your conference facilitator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Enviri 3rd Quarter Release Conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to avoid any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR and the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your questions, you may press STAR and two also. This telephone conference presentation and accompanying webcasts made on behalf of Enviri are subject to copyright by Enviri and. All rights are reserved. No recordings or redistributions of this telephone conference by any other party are permitted without the express written consent of Enviri. Your participation indicates your agreement. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Dave Martin of Enviri. Mr. Martin, you may begin your call.

Dave Martin - (00:02:15)

Thank you, Jamie, and welcome to everyone joining us today. With me is Nick Rasberger, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Tom Vadakith, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. On the call we will discuss our results for the third quarter and our outlook for the remainder of the year. We'll then take your questions. Our quarterly earnings release and slide presentation for this call are available on our website. During today's call, we will make statements that are considered forward looking within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are based on our current knowledge and expectations and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those forward looking statements. For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, see the Risk factors section. In our most recent 10K and as updated in subsequent 10Qs, the company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements. Lastly, on this call we will refer to adjusted financial results that are considered non GAAP for SEC reporting purposes. A reconciliation to GAAP results is included in our earnings release as well as a slide presentation. With that being said, I'll turn the call to Nick.

Nick Rasberger - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - (00:03:28)

Thank you, Dave. And good morning everyone. Before we dive into our Q3 results, I will take a moment to provide a brief update on on our strategic review process that we announced a few months ago. Recall that this process is aimed at identifying and executing alternatives to unlock the inherent value of our business portfolio. In our view, this value is not yet reflected in our market value. Throughout our process and as expected, we have seen strong and definitive interest in our Clean Earth business from both strategic parties as well as others. While nothing can be certain. We believe that there is a path to crystallizing its value in a tax efficient manner for our shareholders. We have spent considerable time with our advisors thinking through structures that work, one of which involves a simultaneous sale of Clean Earth together with the taxable spin to our shareholders, our Harsco environmental and rail businesses. We believe this structure would result in minimal tax leakage for our investors and would allow for a sizable cash payment to shareholders upon the sale of Clean Earth. In fact, we have recently amended our credit agreement to allow for this transaction. Tom will comment further on this amendment. We will update you further when appropriate, but we believe we should be in a position to conclude our process review prior to the end of this year. Now let me turn to our third quarter earnings starting with Clean Earth and Tom will cover our financial results in detail shortly. Clean Earth's revenue and earnings grew single digits and its margins exceeded 17%, translating to a record quarterly performance for the business. The degree of execution delivered by the Clean Earth team remains very high despite various distractions as it focuses on its key priorities. Our investments in new capabilities continue and Clean Earth's information technology implementation is on track and nearing completion commercially. The team committed to a new growth strategy a year ago and we built a strong business backlog since Clean Earth is now seeing healthy volume growth. As a result, we expect strong performance or more of the same from Clean Earth in Q4. Turning to Harsco Environmental, results improved in Q3, with HE's margin reaching 17% and the business generating 30 million in free cash flow in the quarter. Looking back, we believe this business troughed in the first half of 2025. New contracts are in place to replace those exited over the past year, and improvements in underperforming sites, while slower than we'd like, are ongoing with benefits expected in coming quarters. He has also experienced some cost inflation in recent quarters and we've implemented cost out actions to absorb this impact. These added costs should be offset in 2026 through these efforts and also through price increases. We're also hopeful that the steel industry volumes are set to improve. In early October, the European Commission proposed new and significant safeguard measures to protect its steel industry. These actions include higher import tariffs and lower quotas, among other changes. These measures are likely to lift volumes in a key market for HE if implemented next year. Overall, he remains the industry leader and we expect 2026 to be a better year for the business. Moving to Harsco Rail Our challenges in rail are clear and I'm pleased with how our new management team, which is operationally focused and has considerable ETO experience within the broader rail industry, is taking aggressive and appropriate action to move the business forward. Shop floor bottlenecks have lessened and supply chain pressures are improved. Overhead costs are being addressed as well, confident this management team can transform the business over the next year or two. On the commercial side, demand for standard equipment and aftermarket parts remains weak and at unprecedented levels. We're hopeful that this downturn will be short lived given that maintenance spending can only be deferred for so long, but we've yet to see signs of upcoming improvement. Importantly, Rail's base business is profitable and cash generative despite this market situation and Harsco Rail remains a technology and industry leader. Rail is also making good progress with its ETO contracts, which continue to consume cash. Our discussions with Network Rail to amend or exit that contract are ongoing. Deliveries and development work on SBB and DB are on track with few surprises in recent months. As we've discussed previously, Rail's cash flow profile is anticipated to turn positive in 2027 as our ETO contracts mature and we are paid for the machines that we deliver. As a result of the demand weakness in rail and other impacts in he, we have lowered our outlook for the year. Looking further ahead, we are optimistic about 2026 and confident in the earnings and cash flow potential of our company. Evaluation of strategic alternatives is to address this disconnect and we will update you further on this review when appropriate. I will now turn the call over to Tom.

Tom Vadakith - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - (00:09:40)

Thank you Nick and good morning everyone. In the third quarter total revenue was $575 million and adjusted EBITDA was $74 million. Both figures are highs for the year but lower than our expectations at the beginning of the quarter. Rail accounted for much of the shortfall where as we discussed last quarter and as Nick just mentioned, demand for standard products and aftermarket parts remain very sluggish. Also, some contract services work for certain US customers was deferred into future quarters. Our product orders did improve somewhat from the prior quarter, but the increase was from a low base and this activity will not benefit rail in 2025. Performance at Harsco Environmental was also slightly lower than expectations due to higher operating costs and lower contributions from new sites. Actions are underway that are expected to help offset the challenges in both segments as Nick mentioned. Still, we have lowered our outlook for the fourth quarter, which I'll provide details on shortly. Now let me Turn to our third quarter performance details on slide 4. In the third quarter our revenues were unchanged as reported and 1% higher on an organic basis adjusted EBITDA was lower year on year as anticipated, with record earnings at Clean Earth offset by our other segments. The impact of divestitures on EBITDA within he was $3 million compared with the prior year. Our adjusted diluted loss per share was $0.08 for the quarter, excluding the impact of unusual items. These unusual items totaled $12 million pretax, with most of this related to strategic project costs and various restructuring actions across the company. Excuse me. Adjustments on our large ETO contract in rail were less than $2 million and much lower than in recent quarters. We believe this illustrates our progress in de risking these projects. Our adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $6 million, which was 20 million above Q2 and in line with our expectations. Working capital management and capital spending controls offset the impact of lower earnings for the quarter. Before moving on to segment performance, let me add to Nick's comments on the amendment to our credit agreement. First, I'd like to thank our bank group for their continued support of the company and their flexibility to support our strategic initiatives and changing financial situation. In addition to allowing for the potential sale or separation of Clean Earth, we modified our financial covenants to provide additional flexibility. The credit agreement also now provides a capital structure framework for our remaining businesses. If we complete a Clean Earth sale under this scenario, our initial net leverage ratio post a transaction would be two times or less and our maximum net leverage would be three times. Further details on this amendment are available in our SEC filings this morning. Please turn to Slide 5 and our Harsco Environmental segment segment revenues totaled $261 million and adjusted EBITDA totaled $44 million. The year over year change in earnings is the result of divestitures and site exits or closures. Eco product contributions were also slightly lower with this impact attributable to our Xcel operations in the US and steel felt business in Europe. Steel production at our customer locations on a continuing site basis rose modestly compared with the prior year with puts and takes across our global portfolio. As you'd expect, higher output in the us, India and the Middle east was mostly offset by lower production in Canada and Brazil. Volumes in our largest market Europe were unchanged year over year, and while quarterly revenues and steel output was the highest during the this year, overall production rates remain subdued. Customer utilization rates remain in the mid-70s as a percentage of capacity, with our largest market Europe being below 70%. So we see lots of room for improvement across our service portfolio. Next, please turn to Slide 6 to discuss Clean Earth. For the quarter, revenues totaled $250 million, which was up 6% compared with the 2024 quarter, and adjusted EBITDA reached $43 million. Clean Earth's adjusted EBITDA margin was 17.3% in the quarter. Revenue growth was slightly more weighted to volume over price. Clean Earth's volume growth was realized across end markets in hazardous waste and reflects the team's success executing on a commercial growth plan that it developed over a year ago. Meanwhile, contributions from Clean Earth's Soil and Dredge business were lower compared with the prior year quarter. As anticipated, this change reflects the timing of work activity and business mix. Now please turn to Slide 7 in our rail business. Rail revenues totaled $64 million and its adjusted EBITDA loss was $4 million in the quarter compared to with the prior year quarter. Lower equipment and service volumes as well as higher manufacturing costs and a weaker business mix were partially offset by higher aftermarket sales. Operationally, rail continues to make steady progress, as Nick mentioned, although further manufacturing and supply chain improvements are needed and targeted to strengthen the business on rail's large European ETOs. We continue to make steady progress as well, particularly with Deutsche Bahn and sbb. For Deutsche Bahn or db, the next key milestone is for the first three vehicles to progress through homologation or the formal acceptance process. The first vehicle has already started this process and we expect that all three vehicles will be undergoing homologation as we move into the first half of 2026. As we've said before, once we complete homologation, the risk on this project from a cost and schedule perspective will significantly diminish and we would move into a repeatable manufacturing process for the remaining vehicles. For SBB, delivery of the first group of vehicles is to be completed by January 2026. The second vehicle type is currently undergoing homologation and we expect to complete all deliveries of this second group of vehicles in early 2027. On the network Rail contract, negotiations with the customers have continued to progress, although progress has been slower than we would like. Our customer is focused on the delivery of the machines and is negotiating in good faith. Good progress has been made recently to gain alignment on several technical design areas which had been open. This is an important step for us to be able to complete manufacturing the machines. Additionally, we are seeking a meaningful improvement in the economics of this contract in order for us to continue or we will negotiate a mutually acceptable exit from the contract. Now let me turn to our full year outlook on slide 8. The midpoint of EBITDA guidance is reduced by $27 million and the midpoint for free cash flow is reduced by $50 million. The EBITDA change is largely driven by rail and to a lesser extent he for rail, we've removed from our outlook certain unsold equipment and parts that aren't supported by our order books and pipeline. And for he, we anticipate that the challenges in Q3 will persist through year end. Our updated free cash flow guidance reflects this revised earnings outlook as well as some previously anticipated milestone payments on certain rail contracts being deferred into 2026. Let me conclude on Slide 9 with our fourth quarter guidance. Q4 adjusted EBITDA is expected to range from $62 million to $72 million. Clean Earth is again expected to show nice year over year growth in Q4HRSCO. Environmental earnings are anticipated to be modestly below the prior year quarter due to contract exits and rail results are projected to be lower due mainly to volumes. Thanks and I'll now hand the call back to the operator for Q and.

OPERATOR - (00:18:58)

A. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your telephone keypads. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the key to withdraw your question. You may press star and two at this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. Our first question today comes from Larry Salo from CJS Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Larry Salo - Equity Analyst - (00:19:34)

Great, thanks. Good morning, Nick. Wondering if you can. I know you can't give us too much details, but just any more color on the. You sound pretty confident at least on the process that the process is nearing an end or you will have some kind of something in the next few weeks. It sounds like by year end. So can you just give us any more Is it you're confident that will at least will we actually hear something before year end or just anything will be great on that front. Thanks.

Nick Rasberger - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - (00:20:08)

Yeah. Yeah. Hi Larry. Honestly, there's not much more we can say at this point. As I indicated, we've had, as we Expected. Very strong interest in the business. We've created a tremendous amount of value in Clean Earth over the past couple years. It's not in our share price. We need to find a way to unlock that. That's what we've been doing. The specialty waste industry is consolidating. And. You'Ve likely seen some of the values that have been paid for, like businesses that have transacted over the past couple years. So we're happy with where we are. It's been a strong process and we're well supported by our advisors and of course, and most importantly, the Clean Earth leadership team has just been doing a tremendous job.

Larry Salo - Equity Analyst - (00:21:17)

Okay, great. I appreciate that. Just on the guidance and the outlook, a pretty significant drop. It looks like a lot more actually. Q3 was a bit of a miss, but the Outlook Q4 looks like it's somewhat even worse. And you mentioned it's predominantly rail, but just trying to. Tom, maybe you could help us a little bit with that 27 million delta. Is it like mostly rail there? I'm just trying to get a little more granularity there.

Tom Vadakith - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer - (00:21:52)

Yeah. Versus our last guidance, Larry. And good morning. The bulk, the high variation is on rail. And as I said in my remarks, what that consists of is, you know, we're trying to kind of de risk our outlook for the remainder of the year. So we took out from that any volume that is currently unsupported by either firm orders or, you know, good visibility in our pipeline. And so that's what that is mainly. And then on he we've also taken it down somewhat partially. Most of it is basically the miss in Q3, but just reflecting the pace that we're on in Q3, expected to largely continue into Q4.

Larry Salo - Equity Analyst - (00:22:46)

Okay, if I can just squeeze one more in. Just on Clean Earth, another good quarter, especially on the hazardous side, was the soils. Did they have an exceptionally good year last year? It looks like a pretty good year over year drop in EBITDA contribution in the quarter for kind of a minority part of the business. And then you mentioned various distractions. Any more color on that on Clean Earth? Thanks again.

Nick Rasberger - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - (00:23:13)

Yeah, just maybe for context, for the full year, we're expecting EBITDA in hazardous waste to be up about 15% and down 15% in SDM. As you likely know, hazardous waste is five to six times the size of SDM. But SDM, as we've indicated before, can be a very lumpy business. We have a very attractive backlog of projects and we try to anticipate when they're going to begin and oftentimes they're doing delayed. And that's what we're facing now. There's also a mix component within SDM. There are some projects that have margins that are 15 to 20 points higher than others. And so what we've seen in the second half of this year is both a mix challenge as well as the starts of the projects being pushed out. But again, the backlog is very good. The mix is good in the backlog. It's not an overall demand issue. It's not a market share issue. It's just a timing issue in sdm.

Larry Salo - Equity Analyst - (00:24:30)

Okay, great. I appreciate all that color. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:24:34)

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star. And then one, to withdraw your questions, you may press Star. And two, our next question comes from Rob Brown from Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your question. Good morning.

Rob Brown - Equity Analyst - (00:24:55)

Congrats on the sale process. I think you talked about sort of a peer group that's with consolidation, the multiples that are in the peer group, I guess, are you sort of comfortable that those multiples are sustaining out there in the industry and just a sense on theory on multiples? Yeah.

Nick Rasberger - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - (00:25:13)

I would say if you look at precedent transactions, the multiple that we would expect would certainly be consistent with those.

Rob Brown - Equity Analyst - (00:25:26)

Okay, great. And then in terms of the, I think at one point you talked about rail kind of the baseline business excluding the ETO contracts of sort of 30, $35 million or so of EBITDA. Maybe things are a little weaker now, but what's sort of the baseline rail business kind of run rate in the current environment in terms of ebitda?

Nick Rasberger - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - (00:25:53)

Yeah, so it is, Larry. It is a little lower, reflecting the current drop in demand. We don't expect that to be long standing and it should be short lived because we think the demand will come back at some point during 2026. So on a longer term basis, on a sustainable basis, if you're trying to model this, it would be in that 35 to 40 million dollars range. On a standalone based business today you're probably looking at a range of in the 30s. Again, the visibility to that is fairly good because we have a good sense of when these ETO contracts are going to be completed and when we'll get paid for them. Yes, that can slip by a quarter or two as we've seen recently on some of the smaller contracts. And there's a good bit of overhead cost in our business that supports those contracts that will be removed. So it's not difficult to adjust the current performance of the business for what will happen at the end of those ETO contracts. And there's just a lot of costs embedded in the business that will be removed.

Rob Brown - Equity Analyst - (00:27:23)

Okay, great. Thank you. I'll turn it over.

OPERATOR - (00:27:28)

And ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll be ending today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Dave Martin for any closing remarks.

Dave Martin - (00:27:39)

Thank you all that joined us today and thanks Jamie, for hosting our call. Feel free to reach out to me with any follow up questions and as always, appreciate your interest in Enviri and look forward to speaking with many of you shortly.

OPERATOR - (00:27:52)

Take care. And with that, we'll conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your line.

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