A-Mark Precious Metals achieves 233% rise in non-GAAP net income, driven by acquisitions and operational efficiencies despite challenging market conditions.

OPERATOR - (00:00:00)

Sam Good afternoon and welcome to A-Mark Precious Metals Conference call for the fiscal fourth quarter and full year ended June 30, 2025. My name is John and I will be your operator. This afternoon before this call, AMRC issued its results for the fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2025 in a press release which is available in the Investor Relations section of the Company's website at the www.amarc.com. you can find the link to the Investor Relations section at the top of the homepage. Joining us for today's call are Amarc CEO Greg Roberts, President Thor Derdrum and CFO Kerry Dixon. Following their remarks, we will open the call to your questions. Then, before we conclude the call, I'll provide the necessary cautions regarding the fourth forward looking statements made by management during this call. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of A-Mark's website. Now I would like to turn the call over to A-Mark's CEO, Mr. Greg Roberts. Sir, please proceed.

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:01:43)

Thank you John and good afternoon to everyone. Thanks once again for joining our call. As we reported in our earnings Release today, our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025 results underscore the ability of our fully integrated platform to generate positive results during challenging market conditions. Despite the ongoing uncertainty in the physical markets which has led to increased supply and range bound premium spreads. We reported 17.3 million of net income, non GAAP adjusted net income before provision for income taxes of 53.1 million, non GAAP earnings before interest taxes, depreciation amortization of 64.4 million and diluted EPS of $0.71 per share for our fiscal year 2025. For the fourth quarter of 2025 we generated 10.3 million net income non GAAP adjusted net income before provisions for income taxes of 19.2 million, non GAAP earnings before interest taxes, depreciation amortization of 29.2 million and diluted EPS of $0.41 per share. Our fourth quarter results improved from the previous quarter with a 99% increase in gross profit, a 233% increase in non GAAP adjusted net income and a 2,167% increase in non GAAP EBITDA. Reflecting the benefit of our recent strategic acquisitions, we have made steady progress bringing Spectrum Group International, AMS Holdings and Pinehurst Coins Exchange under the AMARC umbrella, managing inventory levels and completing automation upgrades at our AMGL facility. With centralized operations now in place, we completed the migration of Pinehurst Logistics operations from North Carolina to AMGL in Las Vegas. One example of our cost saving synergies we expect to achieve from our recent acquisitions. As we continue to progress our integration initiatives, the scale and efficiencies we're achieving will help to optimize expenses, create greater operating leverage and maintain costs at more optimal levels going forward. We have also made significant progress in our expansion into Asia with LPM Group now fully operational in Singapore across both wholesale and e commerce channels, further broadening our reach into the Southeast Asian market. We believe these acquisitions, combined with our growing international presence, strengthen our distribution channels and expand our reach into higher margin, collectible and luxury segments. With a broader and more diversified platform, improved operational leverage and a strong balance sheet, we enter the new fiscal year well positioned to capture growth across multiple channels. Now I will hand the call over to our new cfo Kerry Dickson, who will provide a more detailed financial overview of our results. Then a Mark's President, Thor Jurdrum will discuss our key operating metrics. Afterwards, I will provide further update on our business growth and strategy for the upcoming fiscal year and then take your questions. Kerry.

Kerry Dixon - Chief Financial Officer - (00:05:36)

Thank you Greg and good afternoon to everybody. Our revenues for Q4 fiscal 25 decreased 1% to 2.51 billion from 2.52 billion in Q4 of last year, excluding a decrease of 94 million of forward sales. Revenues increased 81 million or 5%, which was due to higher average selling prices of gold and silver offset by a decrease in gold and silver ounces sold for the full year. Our revenues increased 1.3% to 10.98 billion from 9.7 billion in the prior fiscal year. Excluding an increase of 446 million of forward sales, our revenues increased 832.9 million or 15% which was due to higher average selling prices of gold and silver, partially offset by a decrease in gold and silver ounces. Sold. Revenues also increased due to the acquisition of a controlling interest in Silver Gold Bull, which we refer to as SGB in June of 24 and the acquisitions of Spectrum Group International, which we refer to as sgi, and Pinehurst Coin Exchange, which we're continuously referred to as Pinehurst in February of 2025 and finally AMS holdings, which we'll refer to as AMS in April of 25. Gross profit for Q4 fiscal 25 increased 90% to 81.7 million or 3.25% of revenue from $43.0 million or 1.7% of revenue in Q4 of last year the increase was primarily due to the acquisition of a controlling interest in SGB in June of 24 and the acquisitions of SGI and Pinehurst in February 25 and AMS in April of 25. For the full fiscal year, gross profit increased 22% to $210.9 million or 1.92% of revenue from $173.3 million or 1.79% of revenue in the prior fiscal year. The increase in gross profit was due to higher profits earned by our direct to consumer segment partially offset by lower gross profits earned from our wholesale sales and ancillary services segment. SGA expenses for Q4 of fiscal 25 increased 135% to $53.4 million from $22.7 million in Q4 of last year. The overall increase was primarily due to an increase in compensation expense including performance based accruals of $17.6 million, an increase in advertising costs of $5.3 million, an increase in consulting and professional fees of $3.1 million, and other expenses expenses. Increases in SGA expenses including expenses incurred by sgb, sgi, Pinehurst, and AMS which were not included, were only partially included in the same year ago period. For the full fiscal year, SGA expenses increased 55% to 139 million from 89.8 million in the prior fiscal year. The increase is primarily due to an increase in compensation expense including performance based accruals of 24.1 million as well as increases in consulting and professional fees of 9.1 million, advertising costs of 8.4 million, facilities expense of 3.0 million, and other expenses. SGA expenses including expenses incurred by LPM, SGB, SGI, Pioneers, and AMS which were not included or only partially included in the same year ago period. Depreciation and amortization expense for Q4 of fiscal 25 increased 201% to $8.6 million from $2.8 million in Q4 of last year. The increase was primarily due to an increase in amortization expense of $6 million related to intangible assets acquired through the acquisition of a controlling interest in SGB and the recent acquisitions of AMS and sgi. For the full fiscal year, depreciation and amortization expense increased 101% to $22.9 million from $11.4 million last fiscal year. The increase was primarily due to an increase in amortization expense of $12.9 million related to intangible assets acquired through our acquisitions of LPM, SGI Pinehurst AMS and the acquisition of a controlling interest in SGB, an increase of 1.8 million of depreciation expense due to an increase in capital expenditures partially offset by a decrease in JM Bullion Intangible asset amortization of $3.1 million. Interest income for Q4 of fiscal 25 decreased 34% to 5.3 million from 8.1 million in Q4 of last year. The decrease is primarily related to lower interest earned from repurchase agreements with customers of $1.4 million and other finance products of $0.7 million. For the full fiscal year, interest income decreased 4% to $25.9 million from $27.2 million in the prior fiscal year. The decrease is primarily due to a decrease in interest income earned by our secured lending segment of $0.8 million and other finance product income of $0.5 million. Interest expense for Q4 of 25 increased 34% to $12.9 million from $9.6 million in Q4 of last year. The increase in interest expense was primarily driven by higher overall borrowings related to precious metal leases, the trading credit facility and product financing agreements. For the full fiscal year, interest expense increased 17% to 46.2 million from 39.5 million last fiscal year. The increase is primarily driven by higher overall borrowings related to precious metal leases, the trading credit facility and product financing agreements partially offset by the repayment of AM Capital funding notes that we had back in December of 2023. Earnings from equity method investments in Q4 decreased 201% to a loss from earnings of 0.8 million in Q4 of last year. For the full fiscal year, earnings from Equity method investments decreased 170% to a loss of 2.8 million from earnings of 4.0 million last fiscal year. The decrease in both periods was due to decreased earnings from our Equity Method investees. Net income on a GAAP basis attributable to the company for the fourth quarter of fiscal 25 totaled 10.3 million or $0.41 per diluted share. This compares to net income attributable to the company of 30.9 million or 1.29 cents per diluted share in Q4 of last year. For the full fiscal year, net income on a GAAP basis attributed to the company total 17.3 million or $0.71 per diluted share, which compares to net income attributable to the company of 68.5 million or $2.84 per diluted share Last fiscal year. Adjusted net income before provision for income taxes, a non GAAP performance measure which excludes depreciation, amortization, acquisition costs, remeasurement gains or losses and contingent consideration. Fair value adjustments for Q4 fiscal 25 totaled 19.2 million, a decrease of 5% compared to 20.1 million in the same year ago. Quarter Adjusted net income before provision for income taxes for the full fiscal year total 53.1 million, a 34% decrease from 80.3 million in the prior fiscal year. EBITDA another non GAAP liquidity measure which excludes interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. For Q4 fiscal 25 total 29.2 million, a 24% decrease compared to the 38.4 million in Q4 of fiscal 24. EBITDA for the full fiscal year totaled 64.4 million, a 40% decrease compared to the 106.5 million last fiscal year. Turning to our balance sheet at fiscal year end we had $77.7 million worth of cash compared to 48.6 million at the end of the fiscal 24. Our non restricted inventories total 794.8 million, up by 215 million from the 579.4 million we had at the end of the last fiscal year in 24. And that completes my financial summary. Now I will turn the call over to Thor who will provide an update on our key operating metrics. Thor.

Thor Jurdrum - President - (00:14:44)

Thank you Kerry. Looking at our key operational Metrics for the fourth quarter and full year 2025, we sold 346,000 ounces of gold in Q4 fiscal 2025, which is down 23% from Q4 of last year and down 20% from the prior quarter. For the full fiscal year we sold 1.6 million ounces of gold, which was down 11% from last fiscal year. We sold 15.7 million ounces of silver in Q4 fiscal 2025, which was down 38% from Q4 of last year and down 0.2% from the prior quarter. For the full fiscal year we sold 73.6 million ounces of silver which was down 32% from last year. The number of new customers in the Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) segment, which is defined as those who register, set up a new account or made a purchase for the first time during the period, was 108,900 in Q4 fiscal 2025, which was down 81% from Q4 of last year and decreased 88% from last quarter. For the three months into June 30, 2025 and June 30, 2024, approximately 30% and 92% of the new customers were attributable to the acquisition of AMS and the acquisition of a controlling interest in SGB, respectively. For the three months ended March 31, 2025, approximately 84% and 9% of the new customers were attributable to the acquisitions of Pinehurst and sgi, respectively. For the full fiscal year, the number of new customers in the Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) segment was 1,129,200, a 57% increase in from the 718,500 new customers in the prior fiscal year. Approximately 79% of the new customers from the fiscal year ended June 30, 2025 were attributable to the acquisitions of SGI, Pinehurst and AMS. Approximately 73% of new customers in fiscal year 2024 were attributable to the acquisition of a controlling interest in sgb. The number of total customers in the Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) segment and at the end of the fourth quarter was approximately 4.2 million, a 37% increase from the prior year. Their year over year increase in total customers was due to the acquisitions of sgi, Pinehurst and AMS as well as organic growth of our JMB customer base. The DTC segment average order value, which represents the average dollar amount of products ordered excluding accumulation program orders delivered to customers during Q4 fiscal 2025 was 2,443, which is down 15% from Q4 fiscal 2024 and down 21% from the prior quarter. For the full fiscal year, our DTC average order value was 2,886 which was up 19% from fiscal 2024. For the fiscal fourth quarter, our inventory turn ratio was 1.9, which was 17% decrease from 2.3 in Q4 of last year and a 21% decrease from 2.4 in the prior quarter. For the full fiscal year, our inventory turn ratio was 9.1, a 1% decrease from the 9.2 last fiscal year. And finally, the number of secured loans as of June 30, 2025 totaled 445, a decrease of 9% from March 31, 2025 and a decrease of 24% from June 30, 2024. Our secured loan receivable balance at the end of fiscal year was $94 million, a 9% decrease from March 31, 2025 and a 70% decrease from June 30, 2024. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn it over to Greg for closing remarks.

OPERATOR - (00:18:30)

Greg Roberts?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:18:33)

Thank you, Thor and Kerry. Our recent acquisitions and growing international presence have strengthened our competitive position while expanding our footprint into higher margin luxury segments. Our investment in infrastructure and automation technology at our Las Vegas facility has enabled us to centralize our operations, manage costs and allows us to scale up as market conditions evolve. Looking ahead to fiscal 2026, with our expanded brand portfolio and ongoing integration and optimization opportunities, we remain confident in A-Mark's long term trajectory and our continuing ability to deliver shareholder value. That concludes my remarks. Operator. We can now open the line for questions.

OPERATOR - (00:19:20)

Thank you. At this time we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, while we poll for questions. Once again, please press Star one if you have a question or a comment. Our first question comes from Thomas Forte with Maxim Group. Please proceed.

Thomas Forte - Equity Analyst - (00:19:56)

Great. Thanks, Clark. So three questions for me. I'll go one at a time. The first one's high level question. You had indicated and you saw in the quarter an improvement in the performance versus the prior quarter at a high level, though I was curious where you think we are in the cycle right now.

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:20:18)

I mean, we saw some real strength in April. May and June were a little more, a little slower. You know, what we've talked about the last two or three quarters, the continued higher spot prices which result in higher carry costs for Amarc as well as the headwinds as it relates to the premium in our, particularly our silver products. It has continued and we continue to battle these issues and you know they are continuing. I do. I am optimistic that our integration of our acquisitions and our continuing effort to optimize and integrate and reduce the expenses in these acquisitions will ultimately, you know it's going to pay off. But at the moment, the market is about how it has been over the last three to six months.

Thomas Forte - Equity Analyst - (00:21:27)

Okay. And then for my second, thank you for that. You did engage in a lot of strategic MMA over the last 12, 18 months. What are your thoughts today? Seems like you have more opportunities to take advantage of. But I don't know if you feel like you need to digest what you just did or what are your current thoughts on strategic ma?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:21:51)

I mean, I think we're always looking for opportunities, and there are still opportunities in the pipeline that we're looking at. I do believe that, you know, we closed three acquisitions in our Q3 and we did digest those. And we do believe that we've, you know, made good progress in integrating them, although we're not complete yet. I think that the team at Amarc has done a great job with the integration, and I believe that we are ready to digest something else if the opportunity presented itself. And we're just trying to, as usual, balance our capital allocation between inventory and acquisitions and continuing to optimize what we've already purchased. So work is ongoing in all areas. But I certainly wouldn't shut the door on future acquisitions. I've said before for quite some time that when the market is slow, we believe that opportunities will present themselves and that the acquisitions that we can make now, when the market is slower, are a lot easier for us to digest and grow and expand than making an acquisition when the market's very hot. So feeling good about it, doors open and looking for opportunities.

Thomas Forte - Equity Analyst - (00:23:24)

Two more. I just thought of one more I wanted to ask quickly. So I think that the answer to this one is that there's still in their early days, but some of the acquisitions you did were intended to give you some element of countercyclicality. So where are we with those efforts?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:23:45)

I mean, I think particularly in the Stacks Bowers area. We just concluded last Friday our largest sale in history on the rare coin auction side. It was a $62 million sale over nine days. We sold over 14,000 lots. A very good result. The team at Stacks Bowers did excellent work getting that auction and those auctions out the door. And that particular market on the rare coin side is very strong right now and to the counter. Cyclical nature you just mentioned it is proving out that we're benefiting on the higher margin rare coin side right now than maybe on the 1 oz silver rounds. So I believe that the strategy is sound. I think the acquisitions were appropriate and they were well timed and we just need to continue to expand on them.

Thomas Forte - Equity Analyst - (00:24:52)

Great. And then last one, and thanks for taking my questions. So it wasn't clear to me in the prepared remarks. I apologize if it was clear and I just didn't understand. Have you finished fully upgrading your Vegas distribution center? I know you're adding in or implementing some pretty impressive tech. Is that fully upgraded now?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:25:09)

Yeah, I would say we're 95% complete from an infrastructure standpoint. We are complete. We continue to. To work on the Software and IT side of it, integrating all of our different customers and all of our internal DTC customers. We are integrating that, but it is operational and I would say that, like I said, it's mostly complete. We're very happy. The increased capacity and cost savings has been everything we expected it to be. We have been able to onboard a number of new clients there, which ultimately in the long term is going to translate into more business and give us opportunity to take market share when the market heats up.

Thomas Forte - Equity Analyst - (00:26:08)

Great. Thank you, Greg.

OPERATOR - (00:26:12)

The next question comes from Mike Baker with DA Davidson. Please proceed.

Mike Baker - Equity Analyst - (00:26:17)

Okay, thanks. A few for me. Starting big picture, you said, Greg, at the beginning, you know, just the environment remains weak or soft or slow, whatever you said. Can you just remind us bigger picture, What's a good environment for you guys? What are we from, you know, looking, looking from the outside, looking in. What do we need to see in the world for it not to be a slow environment? I mean, April, we had a lot of volatility around Liberation Day. I guess that's sort of calmed down. Is it just that the world's too good right now? What makes a good environment for you guys?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:26:50)

I mean, the world is too good. If you're in the equities market and that's where a lot of people are right now, it's hard to compete with their returns, as you point out. Yes, April, there was a great deal of volatility. If you look at the VIX levels, they were very high and our business performed very well in the first 10 days of April. The uncertainty as it relates to tariffs and as it relates to interest rates and our cost of financing has been negatively affected by a lot of the current administration's strategies. And I, and I believe that when you ask the question, what's good for us? Well, certainly, you know, volatility and some uncertainty in the equity markets would be good for us. The, you know, the bigger picture macroeconomic issues that are generally good for us are fear and uncertainty. And our last really big run was the Silicon Valley bank crisis. So, you know, these are things that would affect us positively, but we can't just wait and hope they're going to happen. I mean, we're continuing to grow this business. We're continuing to take our take seriously our view of our SGA and particularly our inventory and carrying costs. And you know, historically we've held a very good size inventory in preparation for higher premiums and for more activity. But really over the last nine months, we probably had a bit too much inventory. So that is something that we're taking a look at. Certainly the higher spot prices have put a spotlight on precious metals, but they haven't particularly been good for us. Most of the demand and drive in the higher spot prices has been from central banks and it has not yet translated into a FOMO type effect as it relates to our DTC customers. You know, we see glimpses of change and of things, you know, kind of rebounding, but no, what we could consider, you know, multi month traction at the moment. So doing everything we can and just making sure we're in a position where if something happens tomorrow that we're able to take advantage of it. Understood.

Mike Baker - Equity Analyst - (00:29:47)

Okay, that's helpful. A couple follow ups. One, you said you mentioned tariffs. Remind us, how are tariffs impacting your business right now?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:29:58)

Well, certainly the tariffs are causing a great deal of consternation as it relates to countries that are subject to tariffs and changing tariffs. In particular, a high percentage of the gold that comes into the United States comes from outside the U.S. particularly Switzerland, London and some other areas. There have been a number of occasions over the last eight to 12 weeks where uncertainty as it relates to where metals should be located to avoid tariffs has disrupted a number of our different places that we borrow metal or where we borrow dollars and the cost of carry has just been higher for us. I think also the uncertainty, just as it relates to what will be taxed or what will be tariffed and what will not has caused some disruption in our hedge position which historically has been a regular contributor to our profitability. And that what we call contango has had some periods of flipping to backwardation so that, you know, in general we get paid to have a short position and that reduces our carry costs. In a backwardation situation, near term spot prices are higher than longer term prices and that can negatively affect our profitability. So it has been, I think we managed it well, but it has certainly caused a bit of uncertainty in parts of our business.

Mike Baker - Equity Analyst - (00:31:58)

Yeah. Okay. A lot there. If I could ask one more good news question. Your gross margin was really strong. So I get that gross profit dollars are helped by acquisitions, but what was the big driver to the margin? So gross profits relative to sales, it was up.

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:32:15)

I mean, I think the gross profit versus 1.7.

Mike Baker - Equity Analyst - (00:32:18)

Yeah, what was that?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:32:19)

I mean, the gross profit is up because we've added in gross profit from our acquisitions. We've also, as Kerry noted, we've added a lot of SG and A so so our actual gross profit percentage margin is likely to be up because we've integrated the higher margin Businesses. But those acquisitions and higher margin top line is just a minor percentage of our $11 billion annually in sales. The higher margin businesses are, you know, a few hundred million dollars. So it's going to add gross profit. I mean, our job right now is to continue to look at efficiencies and synergies and how to capture more of that gross profit. And we can do that by making sure we're taking a close look at our SGA as well as I do believe there's, there's an initiative we're working on right now to reduce our inventories a bit and lower our cost of carry. Our interest carry cost, as you can see from the release, are very high. And historically that has given us optionality as it relates to selling that inventory and being able to maximize the premiums we achieve in the current environment. Those premiums have shrunk. So we just don't believe we're going to need to have the same inventory in the future.

Mike Baker - Equity Analyst - (00:33:59)

Understood, thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:34:02)

The next question comes from Andrew Scott with Roth Capital. Please proceed.

Andrew Scott - Equity Analyst - (00:34:09)

Hey, good afternoon and thank you for taking my questions. So you talked a lot in the on the call about, you know, greater exposure to international markets. If you look at it, I know revenue is not maybe the best indicator for your business, but as a percentage of revenue it's grown substantially around 50% last year, over 60% year to date. Can you just kind of talk to us where you see that mix balancing out maybe over the medium and long term as you continue with these strategic acquisitions?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:34:44)

Yes, I would say that we're very pleased. It took six to nine months, but we've been able to integrate our LPM acquisition that was in Hong Kong, that is in Hong Kong. And LPM has been able to expand and open a retail facility in Singapore. We've also made a couple of hires to move more into the wholesale trading business in Singapore. And those areas are new to us. We're very optimistic of what we've seen, particularly, you know, in the more recent months as the opportunities there appear to be what we hope they would be. And so I think we, we just like the growth opportunity down there. I'm not saying that it's going to be immediately a material portion of our top line sales. But we are onboarding new customers and we have gained access through our LPM brand to a number of new product offerings and higher margin products that originate in China or in Southeast Asia. And having access to those products gives us optimism that this is going to be a new kind of frontier for us. That we haven't tackled before. We continue to have good, strong new customer growth numbers in the US but certainly we are very new to the Asian markets and we see some good client onboarding there and we're starting to see some very positive numbers.

Andrew Scott - Equity Analyst - (00:36:40)

Great. Thanks for the details. And while I know it is a soft environment, you guys have really expanded your DTC exposure to different types of markets, online sales, over the phone sales. Are there any particular pockets right now that are currently showing promise and kind of can you talk about how that expansion has benefited you in this environment?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:37:09)

Like I said earlier, I think the semi numismatic, some higher premium bullion products as well as the rare coins in our new Stacks Bowers brand has been very positive. I believe that our CFC finance business is strong right now. I think that is growing. We did get back over 100 million our loan book in the last few weeks and there does seem to be. I don't know if it's connected to the overall economic environment or what it is, but we do see an uptick in new loans and new draws against existing loans. So those areas are good. But we're still buying back a lot of material from customers. Our DTC brands are buying back.

Andrew Scott - Equity Analyst - (00:38:15)

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Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:38:15)

Very high percentage of what they're selling is coming through buybacks. We're keeping up with that with regular melt lots where we're actually melting quite a bit of stuff right now. So you know the premiums continue to be a challenge and you know we're looking towards when that's going to change and an uptick in silver in particular over the last few weeks. With silver getting above $40, we have seen a bit of positivity there from the silver buyer. So there's a few pockets of positivity and again I believe that we're headed in the right direction and we're making the right adjustments with our business. So looking forward to the future.

Andrew Scott - Equity Analyst - (00:39:11)

Great. Well thanks for taking my questions.

OPERATOR - (00:39:16)

Once again, if you have a question or a comment, please indicate so by pressing Star one on your touchtone phone. The next question comes from Greg Gibiss with Northland Securities. Please proceed.

Greg Gibiss - Equity Analyst - (00:39:28)

Hey thanks Greg. Kerry and Thor wanted to follow up on what you mentioned earlier regarding backwardation. I know we talked about it last quarter just regarding the impact that maybe backward and the cost of carry had in the quarter in fiscal Q4 versus fiscal Q3. Was it pretty similar or are you seeing it lighten up as there is a little bit more clarity in terms of tariffs.

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:39:52)

Your question is Q4 versus Q3 2025.

Greg Gibiss - Equity Analyst - (00:39:58)

Yes. And just kind of how it's trending. Maybe post that as well.

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:40:04)

I mean, I don't think it's eased up at all. I think it continues to be challenging. Within the last three to four weeks, the White House announced that silver was going to be a strategic metal or was going to be a rare earth type strategic item. That threw a great deal of disruption into the silver market. And it does affect our ability to finance our silver inventory and as well as our hedge, because a good portion of our hedge is in silver. But what it tends to do when you have these disruptions is it causes the curve in contango to flip. And you have thousand ounce bars. There was a period two weeks ago where thousand ounce bars were trading at a $1 premium over the melt value for delivery into New York. I mean, we're struggling to sell 1 ounce silver rounds at $0.40 an ounce over melt. So it gives you an idea of the flip. And when large traders around the world believe that they're going to get metal locked, the demand coming out of New York to get the metal into New York as soon as possible creates this very near term spike in the premium over the spot price. So that is what leads to backwardation. And that's the definition of it is, is where future values are lower than near term values. So to this point, we haven't seen this become long term. For the most part you get announcements out of the White House or out of other parts of the government and it creates a bit of immediate panic or a week or two of uncertainty and then things tend to settle down again. I mean, we had an announcement that was kind of what I guess is fake news a few weeks ago where there was a rumor out there in the Financial Times and there was a story that Trump was going to put tariffs and taxes on, on gold being imported from Switzerland along the same time that there was a lot of trade war chatter going on. In the end, Trump came out a few days later and said, no, I'm not going to tariff gold from Switzerland. But it was only, this was four or five weeks ago. It was only in the last week that the administration came out with proper guidance to the import agents as to what code they were supposed to use for gold bars. There's just a lot of disinformation out there. I believe there's a lot of trading strategies going on taking advantage of some of this. I think in all of my analysis of our book, of our hedge book, you know, of where we're at, you know we have 20 year history of managing our book and managing, you know, contango environment very profitably to Amarc. But you know we are, there are a few bumps in the road right now and you know, every morning we wake up wondering what's going to be next. So that's, you know, that's really what's going on.

Greg Gibiss - Equity Analyst - (00:44:02)

Yep. Appreciate the details Greg. And I guess I just wanted to follow up too in terms of, you know, the solid progress that you've made digesting those recent acquisitions. Could you maybe just go over the. Highlights in terms of what's been done and maybe what's on the horizon regarding integration work that's not yet completed with SGI and ams?

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:44:22)

Sure. You know, I mean I think the first big lift was for Kerry and Jill. You know on our finance team. They've done a great job of the purchase price accounting. You know. We were able to complete our year end. We're here talking and we have our release here. And I think the integration of the accounting for the acquisitions is 90% complete now and a great job by the finance team. We started and it was our plan first to integrate Pinehurst and you know, Pinehurst was a standalone business that we had a minority interest in located in North Carolina and we have completed moving their inventory and all of their shipping and logistics, storage, pick and pack. All of that has now been moved to Las Vegas. Thor Jerdrum spearheaded that along with Brian Accolino and Vince from Pinehurst and that's now complete. We've been able to eliminate a lot of redundancy and a lot of costs there. From the pioneers DTC side of things. We are continuing to look for redundancies and synergies that we can find with JM Bullion and our DTC operations in Texas. As it relates to ams, I think we are in process of looking at where the synergies are, particularly with their marketing department and some of their marketing expertise that we're rolling out across some of our other platforms and again looking for synergies and looking for redundancy in expenses that we don't have to incur. And I think on the stack side, you know, we've moved some of our resources from El Segundo, we've moved them down to Orange county and we are developing and building a more integrated trading desk down here. So we have a lot on our plate. We have a lot going on but very excited about the opportunity.

Greg Gibiss - Equity Analyst - (00:46:45)

Got it. Thanks very much.

OPERATOR - (00:46:50)

At this time. This concludes our question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Roberts for his closing remarks.

Greg Roberts - Chief Executive Officer - (00:47:04)

I'd like to thank our many shareholders once again for your loyalty and being with the company and joining our call today. Continued interest and support is important to a mark. I'd also like to thank our many employees for their dedication and commitment to amarc.