Blackstone achieves record $1.24 trillion in AUM with 48% rise in distributable earnings, driven by strong capital inflows and optimistic market outlook.

OPERATOR - (00:00:00)

Please stand by. The conference will begin shortly. Good day and welcome to the Blackstone third quarter 2025 investor call. Today's conference is being recorded at this time. All participants are in a listen only mode. If you require operator assistance, please press STAR zero. If you'd like to ask a question, please Signal by pressing Star 1. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Weston Tucker, Head of Shareholder Relations. Please go ahead.

Weston Tucker - Head of Shareholder Relations - (00:00:52)

Thanks Katie and good morning and welcome to Blackstone's third Quarter conference call. Joining today are Steve Schwarzman, Chairman and CEO, John Gray, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Michael Chae, Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning we issued a press release and slide presentation which are available on our website. We expect to file our 10Q report. In a few weeks. I'd like to remind you that today's call may include forward looking statements which are uncertain and may differ from actual results materially. We do not undertake any duty to update these statements. For a discussion of some of the factors that could affect results, please see the risk factors section of our 10-K. We'll also refer to non-GAAP measures and you'll find reconciliations in the press release on the shareholders page of our website. Also note that nothing on this call. Constitutes an offer to sell or a Solicitation of an offer to purchase an interest in any Blackstone fund. This audiocast is copyrighted material of Blackstone and may not be duplicated without consent. Quickly end results. We reported GAAP net income for the quarter of $1.2 billion. Distributable earnings were $1.9 billion for $1.52 per common share and we declared a dividend of $1.29 per share, which will be paid to holders of record as of November 3rd. With that, I'll turn the call over to Steve.

Steve Schwarzman - Chairman and CEO - (00:02:10)

Good morning and thank you for joining our call. Before we begin, I want to take a moment to acknowledge the horrific shooting that occurred at our New York city offices on July 28. The random attack resulted in multiple deaths, including our beloved colleague, Wesley Lapatner. Wesley was a beloved wife and mother and a dear friend and mentor to many within and outside of our firm. We will greatly miss Wesley will continue to honor her legacy. We're also grateful for the bravery of our building security team, along with the New York Police Department who responded that day and who put themselves in harm's way every day. To protect others. Turning to our results, Blackstone reported an outstanding third quarter distributable earnings in increased nearly 50% year on year to $1.9 billion as Weston mentioned, underpinned by a 26% growth in fee related earnings and a more than doubling of net realizations. Inflows reached $54 billion the fourth consecutive quarter in excess of $50 billion and totaled 225 billion for the last 12 months. Our fundraising success lifted assets under management to a new industry record of $1.24 trillion. And looking forward, I believe our prospects for growth are as strong today as at any point in the firm's history. The structural tailwinds driving the alternative sector are accelerating. With Blackstone as the reference firm, more investors are being introduced to the benefits of private market solutions than ever before. With growing adoption across the vast private wealth and insurance channels and following the US Administration's recent executive order, we expect the defined contribution market to open to alternatives over time as well. In these areas, the powerful advantages of our brand scale and breadth of capabilities are even more pronounced. At the same time, institutional limited partners are increasing their allocations to alternatives in multiple areas and they're consolidating relationships with the best performing managers who can provide comprehensive multi asset solutions. Meanwhile, in terms of deployment, the scope of where we invest continues to expand significantly. As we scale our platforms in digital and energy infrastructure, private credit, Asia, the secondaries market for alternatives and and other key growth areas, we are in the early innings of penetrating markets of enormous size and potential. In addition to these secular forces, we're also now seeing the deal cycle turn, creating another significant tailwind for the firm. The combination of a resilient economy, declining cost of capital, equity markets at all time highs is leading to a resurgence in capital markets activity, including global IPO issuances, which more than doubled year over year in the third quarter. Notwithstanding the current government's shutdown, more conducive capital markets should lead to greater realizations for Blackstone, which in turn support fundraising and deployment. In the last three months we executed three successful IPOs and our IPO pipeline for the next 12 months, if converted, would translate to one of the largest years of issuance in our history. Despite all these positive developments, over the past several weeks there's been a significant external focus on the implications of certain credit defaults in the market. These events have been erroneously linked to the traditional private credit market as a result of misunderstandings and misinformation. Importantly, the defaults in focus resulted from bank-led and bank-syndicated credits, not private credit. Moreover, these situations are widely believed in to involve the fraudulent pledging of the same collateral to multiple parties. The traditional private credit model is characterized by direct origination in the context of a long term hold strategy with due diligence performed by sophisticated institutional managers and rigorously negotiated documentation. For Blackstone, our 150 billion plus direct lending platform is comprised of over 95% senior secured debt with low loan to value ratios of less than 50% on average, meaning there is significant borrower capital subordinate to our positions, in nearly all cases from companies backed by financial sponsors or public companies. And in the private investment grade area, we've concentrated our activities in multitrillion dollar markets where Blackstone is often a leading player, including data centers, energy, infrastructure and real estate, with our loans secured by underlying assets of excellent quality. Our loan term highly disciplined approach to investing in credit is the foundation of the strong results we've produced in this area. As with every business at the firm, our non investment grade private credit strategies have generated 10% returns annually net of all fees since inception nearly 20 years ago. In direct lending specifically, we've experienced annual realized losses of only 1/10 of 1% including through the global financial crisis, and our investment grade focused private credit platform in BXCI has experienced zero realized losses to date. Of course, as the cycle progresses, it's reasonable to assume we'll see some increases in defaults, but we believe our structural advantages will continue to produce superior results. Performance has powered our growth in private credit and we believe it will continue to power our growth in the future. Stepping Back this month we celebrate Blackstone's 40th anniversary. It's been, I can assure you, an extraordinary journey. The firm has grown from a startup in 1985 to the largest alternative asset manager in the world today and one of the 50 largest public companies in the United States. Importantly, we achieved almost all of this growth organically, which is quite distinctive among large firms in our industry. We are business builders at Blackstone, not business buyers, and while it's harder to build a business than buy it, over the past 40 years we methodically planted seeds that would grow into major market leading platforms in nearly every area in which we operate. What we've achieved over the past four decades would not have been possible without the efforts of three extraordinary individuals who worked alongside me to either start the firm or to take it to the next level. Pete Peterson, my co founder, gave us the necessary credibility that provided the launchpad for our growth. He was joined in 2002 by Tony James, who helped professionalize the organization and led us into many new business areas. John Gray took over in 2018 and has done a remarkable job managing the firm and pioneering a plethora of new business lines and products. John also redefined our investment approach to emphasize thematic positioning, resulting in our concentration today in data centers where we're the largest in the world. Energy and power, logistics, private credit and India, among other winning areas. John, as did Tony and Pete during their time at Blackstone, demonstrates an unstoppable work ethic and profound care for the firm, its reputation and its people. Each of them changed the destiny of the firm and have been the best partners for me that I could have imagined. I owe them all an enormous debt of gratitude. Looking forward. What's been built at Blackstone is ideally designed for the environment we see before us and to capture the generational shifts underway in the global economy and markets. In terms of where we raise capital, we believe Blackstone is the partner of choice to bring the best of private markets to a rapidly expanding universe of investors. In terms of where we invest, the future requires massive capital solutions across all forms of equity and debt capital to power the AI revolution, to develop the infrastructure needed to meet the rising global demand for energy, to fund the extraordinary advancements in drug development in the life sciences area, to partner with large investment grade rated corporates who are increasingly looking to private credit to meet their objectives, to help India meet its incredible growth potential and to drive forward other transformative megatrends that will define the investment landscape for decades to come. Alternatives will play a vital role in this future and we see Blackstone leading the way with the largest and broadest platform and the deepest investment capabilities underpinned by the power of our brand. The firm has achieved much in the past 40 years, but I strongly believe the best is ahead. Thank you to our shareholders for joining us on this adventure. The adventure continues with that. I'll turn it over to John.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:14:40)

Thank you, Steve. And good morning everyone. What Steve has done to both create and continue to drive this firm for 40 years is the stuff of legend. I'd also like to emphasize what Steve said about Wesley. She was an extraordinary woman, colleague, and dear friend. Simply the best of the best. We will miss her a ton. Moving to the quarter. This is an exciting time for the firm and our investors. The deal dam is finally breaking and we have a bunch of secular tailwinds driving us forward as well. I'm going to focus my remarks specifically on the growing sources of capital inflows at the firm in corporate and real Estate credit, we crossed the $500 billion milestone up a remarkable 18% year over year. In private wealth, our AUM in the channel grew 15% year over year to nearly $290 billion. And in our institutional business we're seeing strong momentum across numerous areas in our drawdown and open ended vehicles. Diving into credit. Private credit markets are expanding from their origins in non investment grade corporate credit and direct lending to become a key mechanism for financing the real economy, including commercial finance, consumer and residential finance, fund finance and of course infrastructure. Blackstone is tremendously well positioned to lead this evolution as the largest third party investment manager in credit globally. Alongside our continuous innovation. Notably our infrastructure and asset based credit business grew 29% year over year to $107 billion, one of the fastest growing areas at the firm. Our scale gives us access to what we believe is a broadest set of opportunities across the risk spectrum which we can offer holistically to clients. As a result, we're seeing robust demand for multi asset credit solutions across our three institutions, insurance companies and individual investors. Another important development underway in credit markets is the rising opportunity to partner with large investment grade rated corporates which we've discussed previously. Fortune 500 companies with substantial funding needs are increasingly looking to private credit for customized long duration capital solutions which are difficult to replicate in public markets. Scale and reputation are key and Blackstone has established ourselves as a partner of choice. Following our landmark transactions with EQT Corp. And Rogers Communications. In the third quarter we executed another major partnership, a $7 billion investment we are leading in a venture with energy infrastructure company Sempra to support construction of a liquefied natural gas project on the Gulf Coast. These corporate partnerships provide our clients with access to high quality directly originated investment in a sector where we have high conviction as always without taking on balance sheet risk. Meanwhile, in the insurance channel, our AUM grew 19% year over year to $264 billion. Across IG private credit, liquid credit and other strategies, our open architecture multi client approach is a major advantage. Our platform now includes 33 strategic and SMA relationships and we continue to add. More importantly, in the past 12 months nearly two thirds of our clients have expanded their relationship with us, the strongest testament to the value we deliver for them in our IG focused area. Overall, we generated over 170 basis points of incremental spread year to date versus comparably rated liquid credit. Our farm to table model, which brings clients directly to borrowers, is designed to produce a structural premium to liquid markets, particularly vital in an environment where spreads and interest rates are tightening. Turning to private wealth, where our platform has grown to nearly $290 billion, as I mentioned, up threefold in the past five years. To put our scale in perspective, a recent Goldman Sachs research report highlighted that Blackstone has an estimated 50% share of all private wealth revenue among nine major alternative firms. To put our momentum in perspective, we raised over $11 billion in the channel in the third quarter, more than doubled year over year to the highest level in over three years. B-CRED led the way, raising $3.6 billion and is on pace for a strong Q4. B-XP raised $2.1 billion in the third quarter, bringing its NAV to $15 billion in only seven quarters. B-REIT generated healthy sales of roughly 800 million in the third quarter, while repurchases continued on their downward trajectory to the lowest level in three and a half years. Finally, B-X Infra raised over $600 million in Q3, with its NAV exceeding $3 billion only three quarters after launch. In private wealth, as with every business at Blackstone, it all comes back to investment performance. B-CRED has achieved 10% net returns annually since inception nearly five years ago. B-REIT has generated 9% net returns for its largest share class for nearly nine years, a 60% premium to public real estate markets, including approximately 5% net for the first three quarters of the year. B-REIT's exposure to data centers, now almost 20%, continues to be extremely helpful in driving its results and B-XP has delivered a 16% annualized net return for its largest share class since inception. Our investment performance powers our fundraising along with our ability to innovate. Looking forward, we expect 2026 to be our busiest year yet in terms of product launches, with a significant focus on multi asset opportunities. We're also broadening distribution in several major markets around the world and moving deeper into key sub channels including the RIA channel. With these developments, alongside our strategic alliance with Wellington and Vanguard, our partnership with LNG in the UK wealth and retirement markets, and the massive potential in the US defined contribution channel over time, the opportunity in private wealth continues to expand for Blackstone, moving to our institutional business, which has grown by 64% over the last five years and has strong momentum across multiple areas. In infrastructure, our dedicated platform grew 32% year over year to $69 billion, including over 3 billion raised in the third quarter. The Co Mingle Bip strategy has generated remarkable 17% net returns annually since inception. Our multi asset investing business BXMA grew 12% year over year to a record $93 billion, again driven by performance. Q3 represented the 22nd consecutive quarter of positive composite returns for BXMA's largest strategy. Investors are responding favorably with BXMA, generating year to date net inflows of over $5 billion, the highest in nearly 15 years. In our drawdown fund area, it was another quarter of fundraising. We held additional closings for our new private equity Asia flagship, bringing it to over $9 billion as of quarter end, already significantly larger than the prior $6 billion vintage and we expect to meaningfully exceed our original $10 billion target. We also raised additional capital for our next Life Sciences flagship, bringing it to $3.3 billion, already more than 2/3 the size of the prior $5 billion. I'm sorry, already more than 2/3the size of the prior 5 billion vintage. In credit, we held an initial close of $1.6 billion for our new high yield asset based finance strategy targeting $4 billion in secondaries. We finished raising the largest ever infrastructure vehicle at $5.5 billion and we're now raising our next PE secondaries flagship, targeting at least the size of the prior $22 billion vintage, with the first major close expected in the fourth quarter. Also in Q4, we expect to launch fundraising for the fifth vintage of our private equity energy transition strategy, with the prior vintage already approximately 70% committed only 16 months after starting the investment period. Other drawdown strategies we are raising include opportunistic credit, tactical opportunities and GP stakes. Overall, we believe investor confidence in Blackstone is as high today as ever, which as you've heard, is translating to growing capital commitments across many areas. In real estate specifically, investor sentiment is starting to improve following the downturn. We remain firm believers in the sector's recovery and that flows ultimately follow performance. Commercial real estate values bottomed in December 2023 and since then have been slowly improving. We think they're now approaching a steeper point in that recovery curve. The cost and availability of capital have been steadily strengthening and transaction activity has been increasing, including by 25% year over year. In logistics, US logistics in the last 12 months. In a market driven by supply and demand, the dramatic decline in new construction starts, including to the lowest level in over a decade in US Logistics and apartments, our largest sectors in real estate, should be very positive for values over time. As we stated before, we believe Blackstone is the best positioned firm in the world to benefit from the recovery underway in real estate markets. In closing, the firm is in outstanding shape by any measure. A cyclical resurgence in transaction activity alongside multiple secular growth engines should be very positive for our shareholders. And with that I will turn things over to Michael.

Michael Chae - Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer - (00:26:00)

Thanks John and good morning everyone. Over the past several quarters we've highlighted how the scaling of the firm's platforms in key growth channels is driving robust momentum in fundraising assets under management and FRE. In addition, we've outlined a path of accelerating net realizations over time as capital markets strengthened. The third quarter was an excellent illustration of these dynamics at work and reinforces a favorable multi year picture for the firm. Starting with results, Assets Under Management (AUM) continued to advance to new record levels. Total Assets Under Management (AUM) rose 12% year over year to $1,242,000,000,000 while fee earning Assets Under Management (AUM) grew 10% to $906,000,000. Management fees increased 14% year over year to a record $2,000,000,000, underpinned by continued double digit growth in base management fees, including 23% growth in base management fees for the private equity segment, 18% for credit and insurance and 15% for BXMA. At the same time, transaction advisory fees for the firm nearly doubled year over year to $156 million with our Capital Markets business reporting one of its two best quarters in history following a record Q2. While we expect a lower baseline of these revenues in the fourth quarter quarter, the expanding scope of the firm's investment activity is widening the aperture of activity for the capital markets business fee related performance revenues grew 72% year over year to $453 million in the third quarter, generated by nine different perpetual strategies including BCRED and multiple other vehicles across the credit complex Vreit in real estate, BXPE and private equity and VIP and infrastructure. Overall, total fee revenues for the firm grew 22% year over year to $2.5 billion in the third quarter. Fee related earnings increased 26% year over year to $1.5 billion or $1.2 per share, one of the three best quarters of FRE in our history driven by the growth in fee revenues along with healthy margin expansion. With respect to margins, as we stated before, it's most informative to look over multiple quarters given entry year movements on a year to date basis, FRE margin was 58.6% reflecting expansion of over 100 basis points versus the prior year comparable period. While we expect FRE margin in the fourth quarter to be sequentially lower due to seasonal expense factors for the full year 2025, we are tracking favorably against the initial view of margins we provided in January. Distributable earnings increased 48% year over year to $1.9 billion in the third quarter or $1.52 per share powered by the strong double digit growth in FRE alongside a significant acceleration in net realizations. We generated $505 billion of net realizations in the quarter, more than double the prior year period and up 55% sequentially in Q2. The largest single realization in the third quarter was the sale of an interest in the GP stakes portfolio within our secondaries platform at the end of September. We also completed the full exit of hot wire sales of certain US Energy assets and a number of other realizations across the private and public portfolios. Looking forward in terms of fund dispositions, we have a robust pipeline of processes underway amid the improving transaction backdrop and we believe we're moving toward acceleration in 2026. Concentrated in private equity with expanding contribution from real estate over time and the firm's underlying realization potential is significant. The net accrued performance revenue on our balance sheet our store of value stood at $6.5 billion at quarter end or $5.30 per share, while performance revenue eligible Assets Under Management (AUM) in the ground has reached a record $611 billion. Turning to investment performance, our funds delivered healthy returns overall in the third quarter. Infrastructure led the way with 5.2% appreciation in the quarter and 19% for the last 12 months reflected in broad based gains across digital infrastructure including continued notable strength in our data center platform along with gains in our power and transportation related holdings. The corporate private Equity funds appreciated 2.5% in the quarter and 14% for the LTM period. Revenue growth at our operating company strengthened to 9% year over year in the third quarter while margins have remained resilient supported by labor market conditions that are in balance and continuing to moderate in credit. Our non investment grade private credit strategies reported a gross return of 2.6% in the quarter and 12% for the LTM period reflecting healthy underlying credit performance. Default rates across our non investment grade holdings overall ticked up slightly but remained minimal in our direct lending portfolio. Specifically realized losses were only 12 basis points over the last 12 months. The XMA reported a 2.9% gross return for the absolute return composite in Q3 and 13% for the last 12 months. Notably, BXMA has delivered positive composite returns each of the past 30 months, which is leading to strong inflows in the segment's fourth consecutive quarter of double digit Assets Under Management (AUM) growth in Q3 in real estate values were stable overall in the third quarter quarter. The core plus funds appreciated modestly driven by the third straight quarter of positive performance by B REIT. The opportunistic funds declined slightly in the quarter with positive overall appreciation in the underlying real estate offset by the negative impact of foreign currency movement. In total, our real estate platform remains well positioned, three of our highest conviction sectors which are supported by very positive long term fundamentals. Data centers, logistics and rental housing comprise approximately 75% of the global equity portfolio and nearly 90% of B REIT. Overall. Our investors have continued to benefit significantly from the firm's positioning with leading platforms to address many of the most important market opportunities globally, including the largest data center business leading energy infrastructure platform, the largest third party focused private credit business, one of the largest private market secondaries platforms, a leading life sciences business and what we believe is the largest alternative business in India. These platforms have powered our investment performance and our growth and we expect will continue to do so in the future. In closing, Blackstone is exceptionally well positioned, supported by both cyclical and secular tailwinds. The breadth and diversity of our global portfolio is a source of strength while the firm's culture of innovation continues to drive us forward, leading to outstanding financial performance for shareholders. With that, we thank you for joining the call. We'd like to open it up now for questions.

OPERATOR - (00:33:17)

Thank you. As a reminder, please press star1 to ask a question. We ask you limit yourself to one question to allow as many callers to join the queue as possible. We'll take our first question from Dan Fannin with Jefferies.

Dan Fannin - (00:33:32)

Thanks. Good morning. Wanted to follow up just on the private credit market. Given all the headlines and uncertainty, can you just discuss in more detail any changes in credit quality across your portfolio and then potentially also just in terms of what you maybe have done differently here given some of the news and the recent bankruptcies we've seen in recent weeks.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:33:53)

Well, I would go back to the idea that this really isn't private credit story that what occurred here were bank led, bank originated, bank syndicated credits. It also was a bit idiosyncratic as it appears that there was at least according to the reporting fraud involved. So I don't think there's much look through to private credit per se. None of these are what happens. These are not directly related to the private credit market and given the idiosyncratic nature, I don't think it really speaks to credit overall. I'm not sure anything really changes in our model. Steve spoke about the way we underwrite in private credit which is doing deep due diligence underwriting. What we're doing to hold in terms of defaults today, they Remain minimal. Realized losses date still almost non existent at these levels. You would expect as you get deeper in the cycle, you could see a little more over time. But when we look in aggregate at our business and what we think will deliver to our investors, we think it'll continue to be quite strong. So I would say given the underlying strength of the economy, what we've seen with margins, we just don't see a lot of credit issues out there.

OPERATOR - (00:35:19)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Craig Siegenthaler with Bank of America.

Craig Siegenthaler - (00:35:26)

Good morning, Steve.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:35:27)

John. Hope everyone's doing well. Congrats on the 40 year anniversary. This is the first quarter following President Trump's executive order for privates and foreign Ks. And just last week I saw that you launched your defined contribution business. So I wanted to ask an open end question. What are your plans and do you do this alone or can you leverage your partnership with Vanguard and Wellington? Well, we're obviously starting to move. I think the announcement was important. We were already heading in that direction, building up our capabilities. But we thought it was important to have a dedicated group of senior people focused on it. And between Heather, Tom, Paul, the individuals we announced, we've got a great lineup of people. I think this is an area where we will work with others. It's a broad market. You've got a lot of constituents involved. Certainly there are large corporate plan sponsors where we already have deep relationships. Some of this will be done through some of the large financial institutions who have platforms. There's going to be a range of partnerships here. Yes, we would intend to work with some of our existing partners, but it's still early. Obviously this has been announced by the administration. There needs to be the rulemaking. Of course, with the government shutdown, that's been slowed. But I think everyone's expectation is that individuals in retirement who are in defined contribution plans should have the opportunity to to invest in alternatives just like their counterparts and defined benefit plans have. And we continue to believe, given the scale of our offerings and the breadth of our offerings, we can really provide holistic solutions. So I would say it's an area we're going to spend a lot of time on. Obviously it will take some time to build, but again, the benefits of returns and diversifications I think will really resonate with platforms, plan sponsors, with consultants. Once the right legal framework's in place, we will do this. And yes, I think we'll work with others along the way.

OPERATOR - (00:37:40)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Michael Cypress with Morgan Stanley.

Michael Cypress - (00:37:47)

Hey, Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Wanted to ask about your brand strategy and how that's evolving as you extend further into the private wealth channel globally. Understand you had, I believe, your first TV advertisement in Japan. So I was hoping you could talk about your approach to marketing, advertising, brand, how that's evolving as you pursue opportunities from 401k to private wealth globally. And might we see a Blackstone stadium anytime soon? I don't expect a Blackstone stadium anytime soon. You know, what we do is, is fairly targeted. Of course, we did do a launch in Japan, which we think is a very important market. I think it's the country in the world with the second most in savings. And the leadership there has done, I think, a really terrific job of pivoting just their citizenry from being savers to being investors. And they've opened up alternatives both offshore and onshore. And that's really important because Steve, going back 40 years, has thought about Japan as a key market. We've got a really strong brand there. Made a big difference. He was recently there. There's a lot of enthusiasm, I believe, for Blackstone and our products. And making it more top of mind does make sense. Doing advertising, I think, for us will be targeted. Obviously, we're pretty focused on who we're talking to in private wealth, financial advisors and customers who these products are appropriate for. So I think you will see us with a broader footprint over time. It makes sense as we grow to hundreds of thousands of customers. But at the same time, I think we'll do it in a targeted way in markets and in sectors where we think we can have a real impact. What's promising is just the growth in the private wealth area. The fact that we had this doubling and fundraising in the third quarter year over year, and that the number of products we have, where we're going to expand to is very promising. So when we look out, we love our positioning in this space. And yes, we're going to do it on a global basis. And yes, it will involve a little more advertising versus what we've done historically.

OPERATOR - (00:40:00)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Bill Katz with TD Cowan.

Bill Katz - (00:40:05)

Okay, thank you very much. Apologize for the hoarse voice here this morning and our condolences for your loss as well. Tragic. Just thinking about maybe. Michael, a question for you. As you think about the interplay between the margin outlook ahead and also what seems to be a pretty healthy pipeline for realizations, any thoughts on how we should think about the comp within the. Fre versus the comp on gross realizations. Thank you.

Michael Chae - Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer - (00:40:32)

Hi Bill. Thank you. And thank you for your remarks. No, I think in terms of the overall fre margin dynamics, obviously they continue to be healthy, Bill. And I think the bottom line is over time we'll continue to see operating leverage. We're obviously pleased with our year to date performance with performance revenue fee margins especially carry. As you know, those comp ratios can vary quarter to quarter based on sort of the mix of realizations, the vintages of realizations and overall in terms of the relationship between the two, I think we've said before that we're happy with our basic approach. You know, we have the ability and some control, you know, on a year to year basis to allocate compensation between the two in a way that we've talked about before. But so while we have that lever, I think the overall approach is one we're going to stick with.

OPERATOR - (00:41:35)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from from Brian McKenna with Citizens. Thanks.

Brian McKenna - (00:41:42)

Good morning everyone. So I had a question on wealth retail investors today. They have access to a number of different strategies within private markets, but there. Are some parts of the market where the risk rewards are better than others. So for example, lower base rates and. Spreads are a bit of a headwind for direct lending. Returns are likely moving lower there, but. It'S generally a positive for private equity and real estate and performance should be accelerating there. All else equals. So I'm curious how much time is being spent with your counterparts on education. Just in terms of what you view as the proper allocations within private market. Portfolios through the cycle?

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:42:20)

Well, we spend a lot of time at the home offices and in the field and in large scale zoom calls talking about how we see the markets. What we try to remind our wealth clients is that they should think about this similar to institutional investors and it shouldn't be, hey, I'm going to just flip from here to there. If you went to a large state pension fund or sovereign wealth fund, they would have allocations to real estate, to private equity, to credit, to infrastructure. They may modulate them a bit, but they take long term approaches and we think that is very prudent. Yes, there are moments in time where certain asset classes outperform relative to others, but we think all of the areas today actually look pretty good. You mentioned private credit. Yes, we have seen we're in an environment where base rates are coming down, but the premium relative to liquid credit that endures, that is a real value to investors when they think about incremental return. So valuable the farm to table model. And yes, in our equity oriented strategies, there's a benefit from lower rates, no question, in real estate, in private equity, in infrastructure. But I think the biggest message to our investors is take a long term approach, have a balanced portfolio so that you get the benefit of diversification and then the long term compounding from each of these asset classes.

OPERATOR - (00:43:53)

Super helpful, thank you. We'll take our next question from Ben Butish with Barclays.

Ben Butish - (00:44:00)

Hi, good morning and thank you for taking the question. One of the questions we get a. Lot on your investing strategy around data centers is how do we know we're not in a bubble? So just curious your response to that question and then maybe you could help us understand a little bit. What are the key drivers of return returns for that strategy? Is there a cash flow component? Is it valuations? You talk a lot about supply and demand dynamics. To what extent might cap rates matter? That will be helpful. Just get a sense of what is driving the excellent returns we've been seeing there. Thank you.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:44:33)

Yeah. Well, I think the key thing for us in our data center business is how we do the business. The vast majority of our investing and the vast majority of return comes from building, developing, leasing these data centers. We do it now in the us we do it in Asia, we do it in Europe. We have leading platforms around the globe. And the key to what we do from a risk standpoint is we make sure we have an investment grade counterparty today, I would say in general, the largest companies in the world with roughly a trillion dollars to $4 trillion market caps and we get lease terms of 15 to 20 years and that's when you start to deploy capital at real scale. And to us that seems like a very prudent way to do this. The returns come from the differential between the cost of doing those projects and then what they're worth is stabilized assets. So when you have a high investment grade company and a long term leased asset, that is quite valuable. So I think this, when you think about what's happening in AI, the demand for compute, I think this is a very good sector to be in. I think it's also worth noting that the demand for data center space continues to grow. In fact, in our portfolio in Q3, we saw doubling in our leasing pipeline globally versus Q2. To give you a sense of the acceleration we're seeing now, obviously some people may be concerned about that, but compute power and compute needs are going up. The key for us on behalf of our investors, primarily in real estate and infrastructure, where this exposure sits, is to make sure we do this in a prudent way. Long term leases, credit tenants, we continue to do it that way. And by the way similarly we're doing this at scale in our credit business. There were we're also lending to entities where there's equity plus they have these long term leases as well. And so this is a huge need. It's one of the reasons why private equity and alternatives as a segment are growing so much. This reindustrialization, the air infrastructure requires large scale capital and we as a firm who does this on the debt and equity side with real expertise has a big competitive advantage. So I think this will continue to grow but we'll keep doing it in a very disciplined way.

OPERATOR - (00:47:03)

Great.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:47:04)

Thanks John.

OPERATOR - (00:47:05)

We'll take our next question from Alex Bloestein with Goldman Sachs.

Alex Bloestein - (00:47:11)

Hi, good morning everybody. Thank you for taking the question as well Chad. I wanted to go back to the wealth discussion for a second and apologize for the two parter I guess on this. So on credit, totally hear your point around the relative premium to liquid markets but how important is the sort of of 10ish percent gross return to the retail channel? So does the point you make, does that resonate or it's really viewed as an absolute product and any sort of color you can give us on the ground today what the response in either gross sales or redemptions has been to BCRED's dividend cut from a couple of weeks ago. And then zooming out, I was intrigued by the multi asset comment you guys made around launches for next year. Could you maybe just expand on that, what that could look like, what parts of the market you're trying to attract with these vehicles. Thanks.

OPERATOR - (00:48:04)

Sure.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:48:04)

So I think Alex, the key of course is relative returns. When we launched BCRED now I guess five plus years ago, we were targeting I think eight plus percent returns given where base rates were. And the product has done very well as we go from a 5.5% short rates to now low 4% probably a year from now low threes. I think what investors will be looking at is how does that size up relative to what I can get in other forms of fixed income, particularly liquid fixed income. It could have some impact but I think generally the key will be this relative premium to date. We've continued to see healthy gross sales this quarter to date on pace in B cred in a good way. We have not as of yet seen any sort of elevated redemptions. We haven't seen material changes and I think the key is we continue to deliver for customers, deliver that relative premium, have A healthy portfolio from a credit standpoint. I think if you do that for investors, that that's what matters. And by the way, it's not just in the Wealth Channel. Think about our growth in insurance there. Actually, as rates come down, there's some spread compression, the need for private assets, comparable risk, investment grade, comparable risk, but with higher returns becomes even more important in that context. So I think the key for us is to deliver premium returns over base rates, be they long rates or short rates. If we do that, I think our private credit business will grow a lot.

OPERATOR - (00:49:52)

Thank you. We'll take our next question.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:49:54)

I forgot. Sorry, Michael. Michael just pointed out multi asset credit. Let me just quickly hit that. Our multi asset. I would say what's happening in the Wealth Channel is we have a scale now where we can do some interesting things. We obviously have the collaboration with Wellington and Vanguard. And if we do something there, it would be not surprising that it involves potentially multiple of our products. We have the ability, we have some of our partners who are seeking things with different mixes of products based on incoming growth. And so creating those offerings is something that's pretty unique to Blackstone because we're not just in private equity or infrastructure credit or real estate. We can offer, I think, unique combinations, unique solutions to investors. And as this industry matures, those kind of comprehensive offerings I think will be more attractive. Sorry, next question.

OPERATOR - (00:50:51)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Brennan Hawken with Bank of Montreal.

Brennan Hawken - (00:50:58)

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to circle back on Alex's question. You know, so totally get, John, that this is not a private credit issue that we've seen public markets have a tendency to overreact and certainly we've seen that. But curious about you guys just recently had a dividend cut in bcred. What I'm really curious about is what is the feedback you're hearing from the Wealth Management Channel given the big reaction in the public markets around some of this? Are you seeing, are you hearing similar things from the ground within your wealth management counterparts and partners? And what can you tell us about the flows since October began and how they're looking in the credit vehicles? Is there any sort of pullback with the dividend cuts and maybe some apprehension around credit, albeit misplaced? Thanks.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:52:00)

Well, we expect strong flows in decred in November, so that's all we know as of today. I would say the reaction in the Wealth Channel is a realization that these products in credit are 97% floating rate. So by definition, when rates come down, that impacts yield and they want us to be responsible managers in terms of where we set the dividend level. So I just think that's the reality of the world we live in today. And again, the key is the relative premium over what you can get in liquid credit. And that continues to be enduring. And so I think the conflation of declining short term rates with credit issues supposedly from these three non private credit related situations is odd. And I think investors understand that, that with floating rate products, as floating rates come down, that has an impact, but you're still getting that meaningful premium I keep talking about.

OPERATOR - (00:53:10)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Glenn Shore with Evercore isi.

Glenn Shore - (00:53:17)

Hello there. So, hello. So the big banks and brokers are all giving very supportive cover for you on the forward M and A and IPO calendar that's upon us. You were able to replace whatever you monetize with some, some more accrued carry. So six and a half billion as you mentioned, I think 80% of it is across private equity and secondaries. So I guess my question is if the deal calendar comes to fruition over the next handful of quarters, the way just about everybody is saying it's going to be, how does the maturation of your assets fit? Meaning should we see an incremental pickup in line with overall volumes? Is it more IPO dependent because it's pretty spread across all your products? You know, I don't know if we certainly don't want to get in the business of forward projections here, but I would say, Glenn, just directionally that as M and A markets and as IPO markets pick up, our ability to monetize accrued net carry goes up. And you certainly saw some of that this quarter. You would expect as you move into 26, you'll see more of that. So directionally healthier markets, more liquid markets, better credit markets, better IPO markets. That's healthier for realizations and it does accelerate the timeframe. That being said, it takes time to get IPOs done, it takes time to get sales processes done. But the overall outlook which you keep hearing from us is getting better. This deal dam is breaking and it should lead to more realizations over time. All right, thanks.

OPERATOR - (00:55:11)

We'll take our next question from Brian Bedell with Deutsche Bank.

Brian Bedell - (00:55:16)

Great, great. Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. You answered a lot on the private credit, but maybe just John, but maybe just area. And that would be like the competition that you're seeing with banks. Are you seeing banks become more competitive.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:55:31)

In the direct lending business? How is that impacting spreads and then related to that, obviously credit insurance has been a huge growth driver from a fundraising perspective, accounting for more than half of your fundraising over the past two years. Do you see that dynamic continuing? And then if I could just squeeze in one more to Michael. And that's just the outlook for base fee growth for 4Q on a year over year basis. I think you may have talked about that earlier but just wanted to reaffirm that you got a lot in there. Brian, the banks I think are feeling healthy. They are in the marketplace there is this sort of constant set of choices. Should you do a bank led deal or direct lending deal. That's been going on for a long time. And even for us on the private equity side, each deal is a little bit different. So to me that dynamic is a little more of a constant. I would point out one of the benefits of the markets getting better is deal volume goes up. So you need I think both the private credit and the bank money because I do expect that volumes certainly next year in the deal business will go up which creates a healthier supply demand balance for capital. On the insurance front there it's pretty limited in terms of the number of people with an open architecture model not competing in the insurance space and who can do this at real scale. And that I think has been very beneficial for us. I think that's why you continue to see our rapid growth growth. I would say the momentum we have in our insurance business is pretty exceptional today. You know, clients are recognizing that this is a favorable risk return trade off, that they have long duration balance sheets and getting an average of 170 plus basis points of incremental return on investment grade credit makes a ton of sense. And doing with with us, with our scale and our brand and our open architecture model really works. So that is an area where I think you will continue to see a lot of growth.

Michael Chae - Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer - (00:57:47)

And Brian, on the management fee outlook, I mean we'll just step back and reiterate that, you know, we've been talking for some time about how the launching and scaling of our platforms in these key growth areas is leading to an expansion of firm's earnings power. And you certainly saw that, you know, in the results this quarter and third consecutive quarter of double digit base management growth. As it relates to Q4. We'd expect continued top line momentum. That would note we expect slower year over year base management fee growth in Q4 versus Q3 primarily given multiple private equity flagship step ups in the prior year period and some sequential slowing in real estate. But in terms of that and the outlook for 2026. We're very positive.

OPERATOR - (00:58:31)

Great, thank you.

Steven Chubock - (00:58:34)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Steven Chubock with Wolf Research. Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my question. So, wanted to ask on the real. Estate outlook, you know, the performance indicators admittedly have been a bit mixed. On the positive side, monetization revenues tripled sequentially. Performance has also improved, but the pace. Of fundraising has moderated and the absolute returns still remain tepid despite the interest rate tailwinds. So I was hoping you could speak. To the performance outlook both for opportunistic and core plus in 4Q and looking. Ahead to next year.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (00:59:10)

And just thoughts on the timing of an inflection in real estate fundraising and what would inform that expectation?

Steven Chubock - (00:59:17)

Well, we've been pretty consistent. We said at the beginning of 24 we thought real estate was bottoming. We said it would be a slow, non V shaped recovery. That has certainly been the case. It's hard to say exactly when things turn, but a number of the tumblers are falling into place for real estate. First off, we've seen cost capital come down pretty meaningfully. The 10 year back down here at 4% spreads have come down quite a bit. That is very helpful for the sector. The CMBS market volumes are picking up. I think they're up about 25% year to date. We're also seeing this very constructive decline in new supply, which you heard about in our prepared remarks, which starts to set a foundation for cash flow growth. As you look out over time, I would tell you qualitatively, we are seeing some good signs in the sense that in the last couple of weeks we announced two large transactions, big office building here in New York City and then that we were selling and then we sold some logistics in the UK to a public company. These sort of transactions were very hard to get done 12 months ago. And I would note that during one of a recent transaction we've been involved in, I got multiple calls from buyers asking if they could be positioned to win. And I joked internally, that was the first time in three and a half years that has happened. So I think we're at a point here. The combination of a capital markets recovery and a sharp downturn in construction sets the groundwork for getting closer to that inflection point. And I think when you see that, obviously it'll be very helpful to our business, given the exposure we have. And it's why you see us trying to deploy, deploy capital at scale to capture this before people start to feel more comfortable I will also say the sentiment amongst global investors, I was in Europe and Asia the last couple of weeks is definitely moving to a better spot. But in general investors want to see a little more positive performance and that will make a difference. Now in B REIT we've had nine months of positive performance. I think that will begin to have an impact there on flows. So it'll take some time but at some point I think investors will recognize, wow, this is a sector that's been out of favor. It's not going away. People are still going to live in apartments, they're going to order logistics. These things are long term asset classes and I can invest in them at discounts to replacement costs at attractive prices. I think that'll start to make a difference and I definitely think we're getting closer to that point.

OPERATOR - (01:02:00)

That's helpful. Color. John, thanks for taking my question.

Ken Worthington - (01:02:04)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from ken Worthington with JPMorgan. Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. You talked about a greater focus on. The RIA channel for wealth maybe to. Help level set us what is or how much of your wealth aum is RIA sold at this point versus the broker wirehouse channel. And is this focus about adding more in different sales personnel or does the product need to be adjusted as well in terms of fees and structure?

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (01:02:37)

So Ken, I don't know. I don't think we disclose or have certainly not the information here now about where the different forms of distribution. But I would say the RIA channel is very large but is harder to access as you know. I mean at the bigger wirehouses you can work at the top of the house. It can get distributed out. One of the advantages we have as a firm is having 300 plus people on the ground and that enables us to go out there and talk to people. And I think for us we recently put a brought in a new senior person to run that area for us and we're really trying to do a concentrated outreach. Obviously the marketing, the advertising, those things matter when you're going to a more distributed market. But the underlying pricing of the program product, that doesn't really change but it requires a lot of effort. I will say we did create an interval product in Multi asset Credit which was our first real interval product which we launched in the RIA channel specifically. So I think for us it's about going after it. It's a little bit like foreign markets where you have to put a concentrated effort. If it's Japan or Australia or Canada, Asia, it's The same sort of thing here. And again, given the track record of our products, the performance we've delivered, the strength of our brand, if we put the right resources on the ground, I think we can build big relationships and large AUM in the RIA channel. So I think that's an area of major opportunity for us.

OPERATOR - (01:04:15)

Great. Thank you.

Patrick Davitt - (01:04:19)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Patrick Davitt with Autonomous Research. Hey, good morning, everyone. A different angle on Brian's question. Maybe it's a bit too early to know, but had some wobbles in the bank loan market to your points earlier. Seen some deals pulled and or repriced, which I think you could argue is actually good for direct lending dynamics. So curious if you're seeing any signs that the banks are rethinking how aggressive they've been in that channel, potentially getting less competitive because of what's happened and or any sign new origination spreads could get a little bit wider on the back of those bank loan blow ups. Thanks.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (01:04:58)

You know, the bank market obviously has to be sensitive because they're in the distribution business. So when you see what happened in the last couple weeks, not a surprise, you could see a little bit of hesitancy. But I think market participants have concluded that this was pretty isolated and it is not a sign of something bigger. And as a result, I don't think we would say today we're really seeing any sort of pullback from the banks.

OPERATOR - (01:05:25)

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Crispin Love with Piper Sandler.

Crispin Love - (01:05:36)

Hi, Good morning, Crispin J.D. we'll take the next question, please.

OPERATOR - (01:05:44)

Thank you. We'll take our final question then from Arnaud Giblot with bmp.

Arnaud Giblot - (01:05:52)

Good morning. Yes, in credit and insurance, your dry pad has closely doubled in the last 12 months. I was wondering if that was the case as well in direct lending, private debt, given how tight the spreads have become and loose the covenants are with the competition of the board in the loan markets. And specifically, if I could just follow on that specific point into bcred. How do you see capacity developing if conditions remain really hot and tight? Do you start worrying perhaps a bit about capacity and the speed at which you're deploying capital, assuming that flows remain strong? Thank you. Well, I'll just comment. Michael can comment on where the dry powder sits in credit, but I think there's a bit of mischaracterization here as to how hot the markets are overheated. You know, loan to value that we originated in our direct lending in Q3 was at 38% loan to value. That's probably half the level it was if you went back to 0607. So.

John Gray - President and Chief Operating Officer - (01:07:03)

And spreads are sort of in line with historic levels. So yes, it's a, it's a business that has grown a lot but it's taken a significant amount of share and we just haven't seen sort of the erosion of credit standards and we actually have had very strong deployment year I think we've had a record year this year, first nine months in terms of deployment so we feel good about the business in terms of.

Michael Chae - Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer - (01:07:29)

I just point out, dry powder, as you probably know, is largely about drawdown funds and our direct lending capital obviously sits in a lot of different vehicles, including perpetual ones. The direct lending just sort of structurally is a smaller fraction of our dry powder.

OPERATOR - (01:07:50)

Thank you. With no additional questions in queue at this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Weston Tucker for any additional or closing remarks.

Weston Tucker - Head of Shareholder Relations - (01:07:57)

Great. Thank you everyone for joining us today and look forward to following up after the call.