Runway Gwth Fin reports strong Q3 results and announces SWK Holdings acquisition
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Runway Gwth Fin achieves $36.7 million in investment income, announces strategic acquisition of SWK Holdings to enhance portfolio resilience and growth prospects.


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  • Runway Gwth Fin reported third-quarter 2025 total investment income of $36.7 million and net investment income of $15.7 million, reflecting a slight increase from the previous quarter.
  • The company announced a definitive merger agreement to acquire SWK Holdings, aiming to scale its portfolio by approximately $242 million and enhance its position in the healthcare and life sciences sectors.
  • Runway Gwth Fin completed 11 investments totaling $128.3 million in new and existing portfolio companies, emphasizing diversification and smaller position sizes.
  • The transaction with SWK is expected to be accretive in 2026, with the merger structured as a NAV-for-NAV exchange, involving $75.5 million in shares and $145 million in cash.
  • Management highlighted the strategic integration benefits of joining the BC Partners Credit ecosystem, allowing broader origination channels and reinforcing portfolio optimization initiatives.
  • The company maintained a regular distribution of $0.33 per share for the fourth quarter, indicating confidence in covering the base dividend despite prepayment impacts.
  • Runway Gwth Fin noted a decrease in net assets to $489.5 million and a slight reduction in NAV per share to $13.55.

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OPERATOR - (00:01:42)

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Runway Gwth Fin third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Quinlan Abel, Assistant Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Quinlan Abel - Assistant Vice President, Investor Relations - (00:02:05)

Thank you, Operator. Good evening everyone and welcome to the Runway Gwth Fin conference call for the quarter ended September 30, 2025. Joining us on the call today from Runway Gwth Fin are David Sprang, Chief Executive Officer, Greg Greifeld, Chief Investment Officer of Runway Gwth Fin LLC, our investment Advisor and Tom Raiderman, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Runway Gwth Fin's third quarter 2025 financial results were released just after today's market close and can be accessed from Runway Gwth Fin's investor relations website@investors.runwaygrowth.com we have arranged for a replay of the call to be available on the Runway Gwth Fin webpage. During this call, I want to remind you that we may make forward looking statements based on current expectations. The statements on this call that are not purely historical are forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are not a guarantee of future performance and are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements, including without limitation, market conditions caused by uncertainty surrounding interest rates, changing economic conditions and other factors we identify in our filings with the SEC. Although we believe that the assumptions on which these forward looking statements are based are reasonable, any of those assumptions can prove to be inaccurate and as a result the forward looking statements based on those assumptions can be incorrect. You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. The forward looking statements contained on this call are made as of the date hereof and Runway Gwth Fin assumes no obligation to update the forward looking statements or subsequent events. To obtain copies of SEC related filings, please visit our website. With that, I will turn the call over to David.

David Sprang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:03:52)

Thank you Quinlan and thanks everyone for joining us this evening to discuss our third quarter 2025 financial results. Today I'll discuss our third quarter financial highlights, provide an update on our strategy and growth levers and recap our recently announced definitive merger agreement to acquire SWK Holdings. Then Greg will discuss our portfolio optimization initiatives and activity and to conclude, Tom will dive deeper into our financial performance. As I step back and look at what we have accomplished here at Runway Gwth Fin since our IPO back in 2021, I'm incredibly proud. Despite a challenging deal environment and significant changes to the venture ecosystem, we've always been proactive in positioning the platform to compete with the best in the business, we have demonstrated our acumen as a strong investor and operator that is dedicated to building an optimal portfolio for our shareholders while remaining disciplined. This has taken the form of both organic and inorganic deal execution to date and we will continue to evaluate all options that will enhance the platform. For the third quarter, Runway delivered total investment income of 36.7 million and net investment income of 15.7 million. Additionally, we completed 11 investments in new and existing portfolio companies across the high growth verticals of technology, healthcare and select consumer sectors representing 128.3 million in funded loans. We believe our third quarter investment activity is only beginning to show the benefits of our integration within the BC Partners Credit ecosystem which allows us to source from a broader set of origination channels and strengthen our ability to execute against our portfolio optimization initiatives. As a reminder, these initiatives include further enhancing the risk profile of our portfolio through diversification and smaller position sizes, expanding our suite of financing solutions and maximizing our existing commitments through robust monitoring and diligent risk mitigation. Inorganic growth is also a key lever available to us as a part of the BC Partners credit platform, which we believe sets us apart from our peers. For context, BC Partners Credit has been one of the most active players in BDC consolidation to date. Their experience and our combined network give us an edge in identifying and evaluating attractive portfolios that may be a fit in driving Runway's growth. To that end, in early October we were excited to announce Runway entered into a definitive merger agreement to acquire SWK Holdings, a specialty finance company with a focus on healthcare and life sciences. SWK provides minimally diluted financing to small and mid sized commercial stage healthcare companies. To reiterate, we think this deal makes both strategic and financial sense for Runway. We believe the acquisition of SWK will immediately scale our portfolio by an estimated 242 million and accelerating growth and diversification, expand our position and investment capabilities in healthcare and life sciences sector and enhance both our earnings power and overall financial profile. As Tom will discuss in more detail, with ever increasing competition across private markets, we believe this transaction positions us to grow and diversify our asset base and continue delivering value for our shareholders and borrowers. While SWK is a prime example of a complementary investment strategy, we will continue to evaluate all opportunities that align with our disciplined approach to inorganic growth. With that, I'll turn it over to Greg to provide a deeper look at our portfolio activity and outlook on venture debt.

Greg Greifeld - Chief Investment Officer - (00:08:24)

Thanks David and good evening everyone. I'll expand a bit on our portfolio activity and how the SWK transaction progresses. Our objective to diversify our investments by size and industry. As David mentioned, our team is consistently assessing our portfolio and the venture landscape to ensure we are finding the best avenues to deliver attractive risk adjusted returns for our shareholders. This includes maximizing our existing investments, completing new investments and adding to the portfolio through inorganic channels. As David mentioned, during the third quarter of 2025, Runway completed 11 investments in new and existing portfolio companies representing $128.3 million in funded loans. These investments include the completion of a new $10 million investment to Federal Hearings and Appeals Services, funding $7.5 million at close, and the completion of a new $10 million investment to DigiCert Inc. Funding $9.3 million at close. We also completed investments totaling $97.9 million to existing portfolio companies KIN Insurance, Madison Reed and Skillshare and completed follow on investments with an aggregate amount of $6.9 million to five existing portfolio companies. We'd like to call out that we have reduced our positions in KIN Insurance and Skillshare, which aligns with our strategy to decrease our average hold size. Lastly, we completed a $6.7 million equity investment to Runway CADMA1, our joint venture with CADMA Capital Partners. Turning to our acquisition of SWK, we are immediately scaling our position in the highly attractive healthcare and life sciences sector. The transaction will increase Runway's exposure in the sector to approximately 31% of the overall portfolio at fair value from 14% as of September 30, 2025. As a reminder, we are focused on the following three key industries Healthcare and life sciences, technology and select consumer sectors. This transaction expands our commitment to the healthcare and life sciences industries, which we believe is defensive by nature of high barriers to entry given the time and investment needed for FDA approvals as well as limited downside risk and excellent risk adjusted returns. To give you a sense of SWK's complementary portfolio, I'd like to highlight two standout investments, SkinV and Journey Medical. SkinV is a highly integrated prescription system dedicated to delivering customized medications for dermatology patients. SWK's $16 million financing has helped the company expand its product offerings, increase its manufacturing capacity and rapidly grow sales. Journey Medical is a publicly traded company focused on identifying, acquiring and strategically commercializing innovative differentiated dermatology products through its efficient sales and marketing model. SWK's $25 million financing helped the company launch Mrosi in innovative rosacea treatment. These companies are exemplary of the high quality additions to our portfolio as we solidify our standing as a destination of choice for growth investment. Looking ahead, we believe our transaction with SWK is timely and further positions Runway as a serious participate in the consolidation of the venture and growth lending markets. We believe this deal demonstrates our ability to structure, win and complete transactions utilizing both cash and equity to drive scale and enhance our market position. Further, it provides a repeatable yet flexible blueprint that is non dilutive to shareholders. Now I want to turn the call over to Tom to share more on our financial results.

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:12:27)

Thank you Greg and good evening everyone. Turning now to the third quarter results, we generated total investment income of $36.7 million and net investment income of $15.7 million in the third quarter of 2025, an increase compared to $35.1 million and $13.9 million in the second quarter of 2025. Our weighted average portfolio risk rating increased to 2.42 in the third quarter of 2025 compared to 2.33 in the second quarter of 2025.Our rating system is based on a scale of 1 to 5 where 1 represents the most favorable credit rating. As with previous quarters, we calculated the loan to value ratio for our loans in our portfolio at the end of the second quarter and at the end of the third quarter. Our dollar weighted loan to value ratio increased from 29.6% to 31.4%. Our total investment portfolio had a fair value of 946 million, a decrease of 7.7% from 1.02 billion in the second quarter of 2025. Our loan portfolio is comprised of 97% floating rate assets. To reiterate, we've structured our portfolio to be comprised almost exclusively of first lien senior secured loans, reflecting our focus on risk mitigation and diligent portfolio management. We continue to cover our base dividend of $0.33 per share, delivering $0.43 of net investment income in the third quarter. Earnings for the quarter benefited from elevated prepayment income. At the end of the third quarter, we had spillover income of approximately $0.53 per share. Our debt portfolio generated a dollar weighted average annualized yield of 16.8% for the third quarter of 2025, increasing from 15.4% quarter over quarter and increasing from 15.9% for the comparable period last year. Moving to our expenses, Total operating expenses were 21 million for the third quarter of 2025, a decrease from 21.2 million for the second quarter of 2025. We recorded a net realized loss on investments of 1.3 million in the third quarter of 2025 compared to a net realized loss on investments of1.5 million in the second quarter of 2025. During the third quarter we experienced seven repayments totaling 199.7 million and scheduled amortization of 1.5 million. As of September 30, 2025, we had only one loan on non accrual status to mingle health care. This loan has a cost basis of 4.8 million and fair market value of 2.4 million or 50% of cost, representing just 0.2% of the total investment portfolio at fair Value as of 09-30-20. As of 09-30, 2025, Runway had net assets of $489.5 million, decreasing from 498.9 million at the end of the second quarter of 2025. NAV per share was $13.55 at the end of the third quarter, a decrease of 1.9% compared to $13.66 at the end of the second quarter Of 2025. At the end of the third quarter of 2025, our leverage ratio and asset coverage were 0.92 and 2.09 times respectively, compared to 1.05 and 1.95 times respectively at the end of the second quarter OF 2025. As of September 30, 2025, our total available liquidity was 371.9 million including unrestricted cash and cash equivalents, and we had borrowing capacity of 364 million. As of September 30, 2025, we had a total of 143.7 million in unfunded commitments, which was comprised of 120.9 million to provide debt financing to our portfolio companies and 22.7 million to provide equity financing to our JV with CADMA. Approximately 30.3 million of our unfunded debt commitments are eligible to be drawn based on achieved milestones. Additionally, as of September 30, 2025, Runway had total assets of $963.3 million, which would have adjusted the fourth quarter 2025 base management fee paid to our external advisor to 1.6% per annum. However, the advisor has agreed to maintain the base management fee at 1.5%. I'd like to expand on David and Greg's commentary and reiterate how we believe our proposed acquisition of SWK enhances our financial profile and grows our shareholder base. As a reminder, we anticipate enhanced earnings power supported by the following key drivers first, by scaling up our portfolio to $1.2 billion on a September 30th pro forma basis. Second, by optimizing our leverage profile at approximately 1.1 times or the middle of our target range. Third, by benefiting from an attractive target portfolio that offers incremental yield relative to Runway's existing portfolio. Fourth, through greater expense efficiency as a result of our increased scale, we anticipate this transaction will generate mid single digit run rate net investment income accretion during the first full quarter following the close and support modest ROE expansion as well as improved dividend coverage. Notably upon close, this transaction will more than offset the repayment impact our portfolio experienced last quarter. This will contribute to preserving earnings power, maintaining our dividend, ensuring we are on the right trajectory even as shifting rates and a changing venture debt landscape impact the sector. As previously disclosed, the transaction will be a NAV for NAV merger structured as a tax free reorganization with an estimated purchase price of approximately 220 million. Consideration includes $75.5 million in Runway shares valued at closing NAV per share and approximately $145 million in cash. In support of the transaction and our shareholders, our External Investment Advisor is also contributing $9 million in cash as part of the consideration. To provide perspective, this significant contribution from the Advisor equates to a fee waiver of nearly three full quarters when calculated on a pre tax basis. As a result of our expanded shareholder base and trading liquidity, Oaktree's percentage ownership position will be reduced. Oaktree has been an exceptional partner to Runway on our path to becoming a public BDC and we believe this transaction will drive liquidity in our shares and we hope begin to lift trading levels. Lastly, in tandem with enhancing earnings power, we are lowering our risk profile demonstrated by sector diversification and what we expect to be smaller average loan size of 2%. Improved diversification and scale should enhance our access to new debt financing markets including ABS and other secured lending markets. Taking into consideration the ongoing government shutdown, we expect delays in the SEC regulatory approval process and anticipate the close to take place in early early 2026. As previously disclosed, on May 7, 2025, our Board of Directors approved a new stock repurchase program of $25 million which will expire on May 7, 2026 or earlier if we repurchase the total amount of stock authorized for repurchase under the program. During the third quarter, we repurchased 397,983 shares. We'd like to note that our use of the share repurchase program during the quarter was limited as a result of the blackout period associated with the SWK transaction. Finally, on November 6, 2025, our Board declared a regular distribution for the fourth quarter of $0.33 per share. With that operator, please open the line for questions.

OPERATOR - (00:20:59)

Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, press star 11 again. One moment. While we compile the Q&A roster, our first question will come from the line of Melissa Weddle with JP Morgan. Your line is open. Thank you. Appreciate you taking my questions tonight. First, I appreciate the update on the expected closing date of the SWK merger. Given that that's now likely to be in 2026 close date, how should we be thinking about origination activity and repayment activity in 4Q? Should we be thinking about that as sort of a net exit quarter ahead of the onboarding of the other portfolio?

Melissa Weddle - Equity Analyst - (00:22:20)

Yeah, so I would say in terms of repayments, I do think it will be a relatively muted relative to Q3 quarter. We definitely did see an elevated amount and I would expect some of those or we had expected some of those repayments in Q4, but ultimately came in Q3. But in terms of origination, we're utilizing the pipeline we have as well as the broader BC Partners credit platform and seeing many interesting opportunities out there in the market. Okay, appreciate that. And then as a follow up, when we think about the integration of the two portfolios, obviously the existing portfolio is multiples larger than the one that you'll be onboarding and integrating. But can you give us a sense. Of like the yield profile between the two and where you expect that to sort of shake out once the two are combined? Thanks.

Greg Greifeld - Chief Investment Officer - (00:23:28)

The yield profile will be slightly greater. The SWK portfolio has a slightly higher yield than our portfolio and we'll have complete pro formas in the N14 when filed shortly. I think one other thing to highlight too about the SWK portfolio, as you said, it is, you know, dollar wise smaller than our and there's a degree to which they were limited with capital constraints in terms of some of the positions. So I think you should expect once we do move closer to closing, us re exploring where there's opportunities to upsize the best loans in their portfolio in order to get some organic growth out. Of this deal as well.

OPERATOR - (00:24:26)

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Mickey Schlein with Clear Street. Your line is open.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:24:38)

Yes. Good evening everyone. I Want to start off by asking about which were the portfolio companies that were the main drivers, the realized loss and the unrealized portfolio depreciation. And do these reflect problems at specific sectors or was it more idiosyncratic?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:25:07)

Those losses were mainly in the equity portfolio.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:25:12)

And you know, were they. Is there some theme across the equity portfolio that drove those losses?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:25:21)

There were some expirations of warrants, there was liquidation of some IPO shares at less than the carrying cost. There really wasn't any specific theme. Most of them were completely idiosyncratic.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:25:41)

Fair enough. You discussed the prepayment activity in your remarks. But could you provide us some color on what's driving that activity? And you know, do you expect that to continue next year? Yeah.

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:26:02)

In terms of the activity, I would say that there's a degree to which we're seeing M&A remain active across our portfolio companies. There's a degree to which some of our companies have outgrown our cost of capital and found refinancing options with cheaper. Or rather with cheaper options. But I would say in general repayments are a double edged sword where at some point you do need to get paid back. While you do also want to keep the best names on your book. But I would say we do expect a normal course of prepayments to occur from here on out as well.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:26:45)

Okay. And on the flip side, obviously we're very active in terms of investments with increased sourcing from BC Partners. Could you share with us perhaps some idea of what share of the recent deals came from that ecosystem and how do those opportunities differ from your legacy pipeline?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:27:11)

Yeah, I'd say that there's definitely a good split between the two. I'd say we're still very actively focused in terms of our legacy pipeline and focus and that's what we here spend all day, every day doing. I would say where we'll look to. Share opportunities with them will be a circumstance where the check is something larger than we would want to write in terms of the BDCs optimal hold size and then in terms of things that they'll share with us. We're not looking for any type of style drift or anything like that. Things that they show us are firmly within the three sectors that we deal with, healthcare technology and as well as select consumer. And they have to meet our ethos of being growth stage businesses while generally larger than we'll deal with. And also they have to meet the structural and return profile that matches our portfolio. So I would say we're definitely showing them things. And in terms of what we're choosing to put in our book that they're showing us, it's the deals that firmly look, smell and feel like Runway deals that's really helpful.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:28:28)

And to follow up, you know, we've seen very intense competition, the liquid markets and to some extent in the more conventional direct lending markets. Could you describe, you know, the competitive dynamics and the pricing pressures in the venture debt space currently?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:28:50)

Yeah, I would say that we have seen a degree of spread compression, but definitely nowhere near what I think has been seen in the broader middle market as well as broadly syndicated markets. I think that as rates do drop as well, we have seen less pressure on spreads, and it's something I think will continue in this new rate environment.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:29:18)

That's interesting. And just a couple questions on the merger. Could you give us a sense of how you plan to integrate the SWK team into your platform? And let's leave it at that. How do you expect to integrate the SWK team?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:29:38)

The SWK team, Mickey, will join us for transition services to help us move that portfolio onto the BDC's platform. They'll help with the BDC and origination during this time period, and then we'll see how things move after that. But initially it will be assisting with the transition, assisting with the portfolio relationships, and assisting with new originations in the space for the bdc. Assisting the BDC with that.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:30:14)

Okay, and my last question, I'm not sure whether it's been discussed, but are the SWK shareholders locked up post merger? And if they are, what is the schedule of the lockups?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:30:32)

There's no lockup, per se. We do have a key shareholder agreement, and we've outlined the key elements of that shareholder agreement in our SEC filings, but there is no specific lockup.

Mickey Schlein - Equity Analyst - (00:30:47)

Okay, I understand. Again, thank you for taking my questions. That's it for me this evening.

OPERATOR - (00:30:55)

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Casey Alexander with Compass Point Research. Your line is open.

Casey Alexander - Equity Analyst - (00:31:05)

Hi, good evening. Thank you for taking my questions. First off, earlier today you declared a dividend of 33 cents a share, and yet net investment income per share was 43 cents a share. And usually, you know, there's some relative attachment between the earnings power and the dividend. I'm a little curious how to take that, that you didn't add on any special distribution. Should we be thinking of that dividend.

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:31:35)

As looking forward to your earnings power in the fourth quarter because of the substantial pay down, or how did the board go about making that decision? Well, thanks, Casey. For that question. And as you remember, when we rebased and reset the dividend earlier this year, we looked at the earnings power of the portfolio with the anticipation of several things. One was we knew we were going to have a heavy year of prepayments weighted toward the back end of the year. And second, that we were likely to see several decreases in the interest rates. And so as we said it, we said that we would pay up to 50% of the delta between NII per share and the base dividend. So as we look forward, we had $0.10 per share in prepayment related income during Q4. So as you look forward into Q4, as we rebuild the portfolio, which doesn't happen overnight, deals tend to close at the end of the quarter so you don't get the benefit of the earnings from the new asset. We're looking at covering the base dividend with Q4 earnings. Okay. And secondly, the SWK team, do they currently have the ability to make new loans? And if they do, do you guys have any say on any new loans that they would make? Well, as you might expect, as part of the merger agreement, there are interim operating covenants. And so while they're still an independent company, any modifications to loans are worked through with Greg and his team and our investment committee. And in all likelihood we would look at doing any upsizes or new opportunities either jointly or as part of the Runway portfolio going forward.

Casey Alexander - Equity Analyst - (00:33:55)

Okay, thank you. All right, thanks for taking my questions.

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:33:58)

Thanks Casey. Appreciate you being on tonight.

OPERATOR - (00:34:02)

One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Eric Zwick with Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Eric Zwick - Equity Analyst - (00:34:13)

Thanks. Good evening. Just curious if you could provide any characteristics of the loan that you added to the Cadma JV and why it was a good fit for that vehicle as opposed to your primary portfolio?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:34:34)

Yeah, it was a loan that definitely is firmly a growth loan. I don't believe that we have explicitly named the portfolio within it, but in general you're going to see either some partial allocations of loans that we've done in the bdc, but you'll also see some other deals that are very similar to Runway loans, but for one reason or another are better suited to come into there.

Eric Zwick - Equity Analyst - (00:35:09)

And then switching gears just a little bit, the PIC income is, I guess in the quarter comprised about 11.5% of total investment income. Can you provide just a, a breakdown between what is any kind of split between structured PICC versus credit related pic and just kind of any thoughts on the overall level of the contribution?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:35:38)

Well, as you know, there's good pick and there's bad pick and I don't have the number at my fingertips. But in this quarter, there are a number of transactions that had structured pick as a part of it. That there were two deals in fourth quarter of 2024 that had structured PIC going forward that is not the entirety of the loan, but is a portion of the loan.

Eric Zwick - Equity Analyst - (00:36:09)

That'S helpful. And how long is that? If it's at the beginning structured, how long is that usually provided for that they pay pic? I assume it kind of rolls off after a certain period of time. Is. Is that correct?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:36:26)

That's correct. And Greg can give a little more insight because it's really varied on a deal by deal basis. It's quite bespoke based on the cash flow characteristics of the borrower. Yeah, I'd say in general, as you highlighted, there's a portion of the loans where we will structure it that they can have a partial pick toggle for. One or two years. As you can imagine, the companies typically, if not always opt for the PIC while it's offered. And then depending on either the competitive nature of the deal or the cash flow dynamics of the business, we might allow for 1 or 1.5% of the overall interest rate to be paid for. PIC for the life of the loan.

Eric Zwick - Equity Analyst - (00:37:15)

And I can see the attractiveness, especially for a growth company, to have that pick toggle at the beginning to have more cash to help supplement growth. I guess from your perspective, when you structure that in, do you underwrite any differently versus a loan that does not have PIC in it? Yeah.

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:37:34)

So we're incredibly focused on loan to value. And to that point, as you accrue the pic, you've obviously increased the size of the loan. So we'll do an incremental analysis to make sure that we're comfortable with the loan to value once the total PIC has accrued over the life of the loan so that we don't create any issues with ourselves in terms of getting out over our skis with loan to. Value through accrued pick.

Eric Zwick - Equity Analyst - (00:38:11)

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking my questions. Thanks.

OPERATOR - (00:38:15)

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 11. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Salmon. Your line is open.

Christopher Nolan - Equity Analyst - (00:38:27)

Hey guys, do you expect the deal to be accretive in 2026?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:38:34)

We do. It will be. It should be accretive in the first full quarter after closing. We're hopeful that we'll get this closed as early in Q1 as possible. Some of that's really out of our control at this point with the government shutdown and the number of days that they have to review our filings.

Christopher Nolan - Equity Analyst - (00:38:58)

And for a merger like this, correct me if I'm wrong, but all the investment assets of the acquired company are marked at fair value. Did you guys reevaluate that fair value and if so, is there the possibility of some OID accretion or discount accretion following the deal close?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:39:25)

You have been sitting in the meetings, you must have our offices bug because those are things that we're looking at right now. Chris? Yeah, there is the possibility. So we will set NAV the way that the price is determined at closing, the values determined at closing. As there's a fair value mark prepared by swk, we will adopt that fair value mark and that's then compared to effectively the look through price. So there is the prospect for some OID accretion over time.

Christopher Nolan - Equity Analyst - (00:40:07)

Great. Two more questions. One, is the shares going to be issued based on NAV per share runways NAV or on the current runaway share price?

Tom Raiderman - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer - (00:40:18)

No, it will be a NAV for NAV merger. So it will be issued at our current nav determined 48 hours before closing.

Christopher Nolan - Equity Analyst - (00:40:27)

Final question, what stage development is the typical companies that SWK invests in, please?

Greg Greifeld - Chief Investment Officer - (00:40:40)

Yeah, I would say SWK targets pretty much the same space that we're in. When you look at the scale of the businesses, most of them are generating meaningful revenue, still in growth phase, so still pre profit for the most part. But I would say that there really is a tremendous amount of strategic overlap and as we've looked at their book and really gotten to know does have a lot of the same structural elements and just underwriting ethos that that we see in our existing healthcare and life sciences book. So these companies will be right at home in our portfolio.

Christopher Nolan - Equity Analyst - (00:41:24)

Got it. Okay, thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:41:27)

Thank you. That is all the time we have for question and answers. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. David Spring for any closing remarks.

David Sprang - Chief Executive Officer - (00:41:37)

Thank you operator. We look forward to making continued strides on the objectives we outlined in upon joining the BC Partners credit platform. Thank you all for joining us today and we will see you in the new year to discuss our fourth quarter 2025 financial results.

OPERATOR - (00:41:56)

This concludes today's program. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.

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