SI-BONE reports strong Q2 results, reaching cash flow breakeven ahead of schedule while driving 22% revenue growth and expanding physician base by 25%.

OPERATOR - (00:00:01)

Good afternoon and welcome to SI-BONE's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. We will be facilitating a question and answer session towards the end of today's call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Saqib Iqbal, Vice President, FP&A and Investor Relations at SI-BONE for a few introductory comments. Sir, you may begin.

Saqib Iqbal - (00:00:35)

Earlier today SI-BONE released financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2025. A copy of the press release is available on the Company's website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that Management's remarks today may include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform act of 1995. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties including those set forth in our SEC filings such as our most recent Form 10-K, and actual results might differ materially from any forward looking statements that we make today. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. These forward looking statements may speak only as of the date that they are made and we do not assume any obligation to update any forward looking statements. Except as required by law. During the call, Management may discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including the company's adjusted EBITDA results. Unless otherwise noted, any reference to profitability is in terms of positive adjusted EBITDA. For a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to GAAP accounting, please see the company's full earnings release issued earlier today. Unless otherwise noted, all results are compared to the comparable period in the prior year. With that, I'll return the call over to Laura.

Laura - (00:02:07)

Thanks Saqib. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Since our inception, our strategy has been to build a unique platform of solutions targeting some of the most challenging procedures and patients treated by our physicians. Our proprietary solutions improve surgical outcomes with stronger fixation infusion and lower failure rates. This is recognized and supported by clinical data and favorable reimbursement. We're delivering on that strategy with another quarter of strong and profitable revenue growth supported by the increasing adoption of our platform. We had a record number of U.S. physicians perform our procedures this quarter, reinforcing the expanding reach and clinical acceptance of our differentiated solutions. We added an important growth engine to our international markets with the successful launch of iStork in Europe. Our strong top line growth coupled with our disciplined operating approach enabled us to deliver our third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted ebitda. Alongside maintaining consistent profitability, we reached an important cash flow milestone. We achieved cash flow breakeven in the quarter well ahead of our original timeline. Notably, we accomplished this while continuing to invest in building surgical capacity to support demand for our existing products as well as invest in product innovation to drive future growth. In the second quarter we delivered worldwide revenue. Revenue growth of approximately 22%. US revenue, which accounts for 95% of our business grew approximately 23%. US revenue growth was supported by a 25% increase in procedure volumes, reaffirming the robust underlying demand we continue to see across our target markets. The volume growth was broad based. We experienced double digit percentage growth in volume across all the modalities we serve. This robust volume growth reflects the rapid adoption of last year's new offerings and sustained momentum in our existing solutions. Our surgeon base expanded rapidly in the quarter as we experienced double digit percentage growth across all our call points. This was also our fifth consecutive quarter of sequential growth in the physician base. Our average territory productivity reached a new high watermark, underscoring the strength of our commercial execution. The high value of our unique solutions is recognized by payers, providers and regulators and is reflected in the favorable reimbursement decisions and designations for iFueze, Torc, TNT and iFuse Bedrock Granite®. These decisions validate our leadership and facilitate physician and patient access to our high quality solutions. With a target of over half a million annual procedures in the U.S. our current portfolio has significant growth potential. Meanwhile, new solutions in the pipeline are poised to target new addressable markets as we leverage our knowledge of dealing with patients with poor bone quality and deepening penetration of existing target markets by meeting the diverse needs and preferences of physicians. Now I'd like to highlight the progress. We'Ve made on our four key innovation in key markets, physician engagement, commercial execution, and operational excellence. Starting with innovation in the area of SI joint dysfunction, our commitment to offering the most comprehensive portfolio of solutions tailored to physicians varied needs and preferences continues to prove effective. In the second quarter, the number of physicians performing our SI joint dysfunction procedure grew by double digit percentage points. While surgeons account for the majority of our SI joint dysfunction volume. A growing base of interventional spine physicians are engaging us as they incorporate our procedures in the practice. On the product front, iFuse TORQ has become a preferred solution, especially among the newly trained physicians. Ifuzenture adoption is growing in markets where the interventional spine physicians initially prefer an in office or allograft solution and the reimbursement for CPT 27278 is clearly defined. On the clinical front, early safety data from our Stacy study was published in Pain Medicine. Stacy is the first study to evaluate lateral SI joint fusion using our ifuse Torque implant when when performed by interventional spine physicians. The data is consistent with the published surgical literature supporting the safety and effectiveness of lateral SI joint fusion as performed by this physician specialty. A manuscript detailing the six month primary endpoint outcomes is currently under peer review at a prominent journal. We're excited to announce that in June we received regulatory approval to launch IPUS Torque in Europe. If early reception from surgeons and interventionalists is any indication of future demand, we expect TORQ to accelerate adoption and growth across our international markets. In July, we completed cases across various European markets and in several instances even converted physicians who in the past used competitive products. Moving to Pelvic Fixation since the launch of the Ifuez Bedrock Granite Platform in 2022 and the subsequent addition of iFuse Bedrock Granite 9.5 last year, we have led the industry in providing sacropelvic solutions for spinal deformity and degenerative conditions requiring surgical intervention. Granite has been a stellar success with the potential to reduce the nearly 24% failure rate of lumbopelvic fixation. Granite9.5 continues to have a trifecta effect on the business. First, it was a key contributor to our physician growth. Second, it allowed us to build a deeper relationship with our customers. Granite was the crucial driver of the 24% growth in the number of physicians performing more than one type of procedure in the quarter. Third, the number of granite cases utilizing four implants grew approximately 50% in the quarter. This has contributed to our strong average selling price per procedure. On the reimbursement front, Granite has a transitional pass through payment including a zero dollar device offset which CMS has proposed to continue for calendar year 2026 procedures. We see additional tailwinds for Granite in the significant changes proposed by CMS for hospital outpatient payments for higher cost lumbar fusion procedures. A Level 7 APC payment of nearly $28,000 has been proposed to compensate hospitals for for complex multilevel spinal fusion procedures performed on an outpatient basis starting in calendar year 2026. In addition, CPT 27280 describing open SI joint fusion was removed from the inpatient only list. We believe these changes will provide a tailwind for our business as some of these procedures migrate to the lower cost site of service. Granite will be an economically viable component of these procedures and can be an important part of the outpatient care for these patients. Moving to pelvic trauma IQ's Torq. TNT®, which was awarded a Breakthrough Device designation from the FDA, is ramping ahead of expectations as a record number of surgeons use tnt. In the second quarter, we're in active dialogue to significantly expand our agent partnerships to help trauma surgeons gain access to this breakthrough technology for their patients, which is targeted toward pelvic fragility fractures. With nearly 60,000 potential target procedures annually, the pelvic trauma market has the potential to be a significant growth driver for the business. We're pleased with the finalized new technology add on payment for inpatient procedures for TNT®. The NTAP will be effective starting October 1, 2025. This add on payment of over $4,100 translates to a 20 to 30% reimbursement increase to the hospital for pelvic fracture fixation for Medicare patients. We believe higher reimbursement for hospitals via the NTAP will expand access to our technology for trauma patients and provide additional momentum to TNT®'s already strong start. Turning to our Pipeline Innovation remains a core tenet of our long term growth strategy. We have a track record of applying our proprietary technology, biomechanical expertise, clinical data and real world experience to expand into new modalities. We identified pressing clinical needs where our platform technology superior fixation infusion capabilities can improve surgical outcomes. For the new SI joint solution we mentioned in prior calls, we expect to submit our 510 application to the FDA soon and remain on track for commercial launch later in the first quarter of 2026. The solution leverages our 3D engineering and design expertise as well as our clinical experience with intra. We believe the solution is optimized for the ASC environment and will allow us to reach an even broader group of physicians and extend our leadership position at that site of service. We're also excited about the significant progress on the technology milestones underpinning our third breakthrough device, which we discussed on the prior earnings call. We believe this novel solution has the potential to become the standard of care for addressing one of the most pressing needs in spine surgery. Based on this encouraging progress, we anticipate filing our 510 for this groundbreaking product sometime in the second half of 2026. Next, let's move on to physician engagement. In the second quarter, a record 1440 US physicians performed procedures using our products, representing an increase of 25% over the prior year period. The double digit percentage growth across all our call points highlights the broad based demand for our differentiated solutions. The elevated level of physician interest is an outcome of our commercial team's efforts to drive deeper engagement with existing customers and successful expansion. Across all our call points, our thoughtful platform expansion strategy clearly resonates with our customer base. Our platform supports multiple procedure types and many physicians who adopt one of our solutions increase their utilization over time and are more likely to adopt additional solutions. Physicians who performed a case in the second quarter of 2025 and 2024 averaged nearly five procedures per physician. This was double compared to the number of procedures performed by our physicians who were not active on our platform a year ago. Our academic programs remain a key contributor to our active physician and revenue growth in the second quarter. Revenue generated from physicians who were previously trained as residents and fellows grew by 63% year over year, highlighting the outsized impact of these programs. Now let's turn to commercial execution. Our U.S. commercial team delivered another strong quarter driven by our focused go to market strategy and operational excellence across our 85 territories. Our trailing 12 month revenue per territory increased to $2.1 million, representing 23% growth over the comparable prior year period. While we will add new territories over the next 12 months, we believe our hybrid commercial model will allow us to drive incremental productivity improvement over time. The hybrid model provides territory managers with the ability to maintain strong connectivity with their customers, focus on market development and expansion opportunities, while also allowing our sales agents to focus on case coverage. In 2022, when we were in the early stages of our hybrid model expansion, we did 11,500 procedures across 85 territories. Procedures have since grown by 70% to 20,000 in the trailing 12 months while the number of territories is unchanged at 85, demonstrating the effectiveness and efficiency of our hybrid model. Before I hand it over to Anshul, I'd like to provide a leadership update. Tony Recupero, our President of Commercial Operations, has announced his decision to retire. Since joining the company in 2016, Tony has been instrumental in expanding Si Bone's footprint, building a high performance sales organization and delivering sustained revenue growth while significantly increasing the company's influence across the industry. We're deeply grateful for his leadership, vision and the lasting impact he's made on Si Bone. Tony's retirement will be effective February 2026, at which point he will transition to an advisory role for a 12 month period. I want to thank Tony for his outstanding leadership, partnership and friendship over the past decade. Nicholas Kerr will take on the role of Chief commercial officer effective February 2026. Nick joined SI Bone in 2016 and currently serves as Senior Vice President of Product Marketing and Business Development. Throughout his tenure, Nick has been a driving force behind the company's innovation strategy, market expansion and commercial evolution. With more than 25 years of experience in the medical device industry, Nick brings a unique combination of strategic foresight, customer centric leadership and operational expertise. I would like to congratulate Nick on the promotion. We have a seamless transition plan in place. I'm confident that our seasoned sales team will continue to execute and deliver exceptional performance under the direction of our deeply experienced leadership team. With that, I'll hand over the call to Anshul to provide an update on our fourth key priority, operational Excellence, and share our second quarter results and updated guidance in more detail.

Anshul - (00:16:44)

Thanks Laura Good afternoon everyone. My comments today will cover second quarter revenue growth, profitability and liquidity and then I will talk through our full year guidance. All of the comparisons provided will be against the prior year period unless noted otherwise. Starting with revenue growth, our Worldwide revenue was 48.6 million in the second quarter representing growth of 21.7%. Our strong momentum in the US continues with revenue of 46.4 million representing 22.8% growth. Our US procedure volume was up 25%, driven by double digit volume growth across all modalities. International revenue in the second quarter was 2.2 million. Our revenue growth in Europe in the quarter was impacted by the later than expected regulatory clearance for Torc based on early user feedback. The enthusiasm for Torc is evident. Consistent with our experience in the US we expect TORQ to boost revenue growth in Europe in 2026 and beyond. Moving to profitability Our focus on operational excellence is reflected in our industry leading gross margins as well as strong operating leverage, with revenue growth nearly double the level of operating expense growth. Our Gross profit was 38.8 million, an increase of 7.2 million or 22.9%. Gross margin was 79.8%, expanding by 80 basis points year over year, driven by our actions to improve manufacturing and supply chain efficiencies. Over the last 12 months, our average procedure ASP declined slightly but remains more stable than our assumptions. Going into the year due to the favorable procedure mix, our operating expenses were 45.8 million, an increase of 4.2 million or 10%. The increase was mostly due to growth related investments and higher commissions as well as elevated G&A spending. In the quarter, our net loss narrowed to 6.2 million or $0.14 per diluted share compared to a net loss of 8.9 million or $0.22 per diluted share. In the prior year. We delivered Positive Adjusted EBITDA of 1 million compared to an Adjusted EBITDA loss of 2.7 million in the prior year. This is our third consecutive quarter of positive Adjusted EBITDA. For the trailing 12 months ended second quarter 2025, we delivered positive Adjusted EBITDA of 3.1 million compared to an Adjusted EBITDA loss of 15.4 million in the prior year period. Given the momentum in the business, we remain on track to deliver positive adjusted EBITDA in fiscal year 2025 and beyond while investing across our growth priorities. Turning to liquidity, we exited the quarter with $145.5 million in cash and marketable securities, up from $144.4 million in the previous quarter. The sequential increase of $1.1 million marks an important milestone as this is our first quarter where we were cash flow breakeven. Our ability to achieve this milestone ahead of plan is an indication of the potential for the business to consistently drive positive free cash flow at scale. Based on the planned increase in surgical capacity, we expect to consume a modest amount of cash in the second half of 2025. Now let me provide an update on our outlook for 2025. We're updating our full year revenue guidance to range between 195 million to $198 million. The updated guidance implies year over year growth of approximately 17% to 18% as compared to the previous guidance of approximately 16% to 18%. The updated guidance reflects the strong first half of the year and our conviction in the growing adoption of our solutions. Given the strength of our gross margins, we now expect the full year gross margin to be between 78.5 and and 79% compared to a previous guidance of 78%. We still expect fiscal year operating expenses to grow at least 10% at midpoint of our revenue guidance and we expect positive adjusted EBITDA for the full year of 2025. With that, I will turn the call over to Laura.

Laura - (00:21:25)

Thanks Anshul. I want to thank all my colleagues for their commitment and contribution for delivering industry leading top line growth and consistent profitability. We're energized by the momentum we're carrying into the second half with multiple growth drivers. We're excited about our innovation engine as we launch products that will address some of the most challenging patient needs. In addition to delivering strong top line growth, we're committed to growing our profitability and making progress toward delivering consistent free cash flow. With that, we're happy to answer your questions. Operator.

OPERATOR - (00:22:02)

Thank you ladies and gentlemen. To ask the question, please press Star one one on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press Star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. First question comes from the line of Craig with you with bank of America. Your line is open.

Craig - Equity Analyst - (00:22:26)

Good afternoon, Laura Anshul and congrats on another strong revenue growth and good profitability quarter. That said, I do want to start with the guidance on the top line and you guys had 20 plus percent growth in the first half. I think the guidance implies a step down from there. So maybe you guys can talk a little bit about what some of the assumptions are underlying that growth for the second half and maybe even a little bit of color on cadence between Q3 and Q4.

Laura - (00:23:07)

Thanks for the question, Craig. I'll start and then I'll have Anshul talk a little bit more about the details of the guidance. So first of all, we're really pleased with how the core ended and especially led by the US growth of 23%. And what's interesting is if you look at the CAGR for the last two years, we actually saw growth acceleration between Q1 and Q2. So it really tells us that our strategy is working. In addition to growth, what we're doing is growing our way to profitability. So top line momentum helped us to deliver a third quarter of adjusted EBITDA profitability. And we're actually really excited about achieving cash flow breakeven during the period which was quite a bit earlier than our stated goal. So we're proud of the business model. We really think we're a differentiated medical device company, high margin asset light and growing company, a profitable company and these new cash flow metrics are substantiating. Also before we turn it over to Anshul to talk further about guidance, just talk about some of the highlights of the quarter. So 25% US procedure volume growth and that was broad based with double digit procedure volume growth across all of the modalities that we serve. Also 25% growth in our physician base. So a new record of 1,440 surgeons, gross margin expansion by 80 basis points, additional gains in sales productivity moving up to 2.1 million per territory. And I've already mentioned our adjusted EBITDA and our cash flow goals as well. So all of this gives me really a strong sense of confidence about the demand across the portfolio and and across all of our call points for the remainder of 2025. And I also talked a little bit about how we're thinking about new product development and continuing to broaden and deepen our solutions to solve these Challenging unmet clinical needs. So I'll turn it over to Anshul to talk a little bit further about the details of guidance.

Anshul - (00:25:33)

Yeah, thanks Laura. Craig, good to connect again. As Laura has highlighted, we're really encouraged by the strong first half performance and our updated guidance on revenue and gross margin reflects that strong first half. When we think about the business going into the second half of the year, we're maintaining our consistent and prudent approach to guidance. We've got a lot of tailwinds in the business going into the second half. All the surge in momentum. Laura talked about the broad based volume demand that we're seeing. Beyond that as well. You look at the tailwinds that could provide potential for upside in the second half or faster than anticipated. Continued adoption of granite, especially within Degenerative spine. Our assumptions around sort of this low single digit decline in ASP, around 3% to 4%. It could play out better, especially as we continue to see four implant deformity cases with granite continue to go strong. As we saw, it was a 50% increase year over year in the second quarter. So you've got that playing out. You've got the potential for additional TNT capacity, surgical capacity being rolled out and the potential impact of NTAP that goes into October 1st, that goes effective October 1st. And then to a lesser extent you have the upside from TORQ in Europe. So a lot of tailwinds. But again, we just want to be thoughtful as we set guidance. We want to grow into those tailwinds, especially the ones with TNT and torque. So we're feeling good about how that setup Is your question on cadence between Q3 and Q4. So consistent with what we've talked about on our prior calls, our assumption in our guidance is a sequential decline of approximately, I'd say 4% in Q3. Most of that is driven by seasonalities, vacations and conferences. Now if you go back the last few years, we've actually done better than that. Part of that is through execution. So we think there's potential to do better. But that's embedded in our guidance right now is sort of a sequential decline of about 4%. And then Q4, which is traditionally our largest quarter, our expectation is the continued ramp in Q4.

Craig - Equity Analyst - (00:27:53)

Got it, thanks. That's all very helpful. Maybe a similar question on the gross margin guidance and obviously it's been very strong, close to 80% in the first two quarters. It implies a little bit of a step down. Maybe that is also conservatism. But just talk about how we should be thinking about that you don't seem to be getting that pricing pressure that you had called out to beginning the year and then even beyond 25. Just how do we think about those gross margins? Is it right to think about it stability there or should there be pressure in future years?

Anshul - (00:28:34)

Yes, I'm happy to take that Craig. So again on the gross margin side, similar to revenue, we're being very thoughtful. If you recall, we started the year expecting gross margins to be around 77 to 78% for the year. We've obviously outperformed that original expectation, but also growing gross margin on a year over year basis by 80 basis points. I in my prepared remark talked about some of the efforts that we've been doing on supply chain and manufacturing that's helped improve the gross margin. So some of that is going to be sticky in terms of our updated guidance which is now at 78.5 to 79%. We're embedding some of that stickiness sticky improvement in gross margins flowing through for the rest of the year. But we are being thoughtful around the ASP impact. Like I said, we're assuming sort of a 3% ASP pressure in the back half of the year driven by just the procedure mix happening again. Granite with Degen Opportunity and even Deformity is a strong revenue driver, but they are a little bit more expensive so that has an impact on COGS as well. We're putting out more TNT capacity, especially with the NTAP coming on and some of the other distribution arrangements we're working on. So you'll see some depreciation go through that and then we just are in the final stages of implementing an automated platform through Salesforce Health Cloud and you'll see some depreciation from that as well. So I think we're fairly embedding some of those headwinds in the gross margin. Now what we're not embedding in there is the potential for better than anticipated ASP. As you said, ASP has turned out better than we expected starting of the year and also impact of additional margin improvement initiatives. So I think there's going to be a balance put and take there in terms of beyond 2025. What we've shared previously is we're going to continue to look at improving our operating gross margins through various initiatives. But we do have new product launches coming out. Loras talked about the potential commercialization of the next product in Q1. We're going to be filing the 510 for our third BDD device in 2H26. So our expectation is over the medium term. So I'd say over the next two to three years, gross margin sort of stabilizing in the 76 to 77% range. Now, a lot of that is newer products take time to scale, so they tend to put pressure on the gross margins initially. But we've got existing products that will be getting to scale to offset that. Got it.

Craig - Equity Analyst - (00:31:16)

All very helpful. Thank you, guys.

OPERATOR - (00:31:19)

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Dave Turkerle with Citizens. Your line is open.

Dave Turkerle - Equity Analyst - (00:31:30)

Hey, congrats on the momentum. Laura, I was wondering if you might be able to provide a little color on the the number of interventional docs that are now using product and maybe also maybe some color on how many of them are using more than one. I know that you called out inter. And torque in the past, but I'm just trying to get a feel for how fast that base is growing.

Laura - (00:31:53)

Thanks for the question, Dave. The addition of interventional docs, we added them a little over a year ago. At this point, we started to work with interventional and it has been a very strong growth driver for the business. We don't break out how many of those 1440 physicians are interventionalists, but as I said, it's a really nice, strong growth driver for us in terms of the mix of the product that they're using. TORQ still is the product of choice for them, but quite a few of these interventionalists that are in areas where the reimbursement is clearly defined really like our intra® product as well. So just to be clear, surgeons continue to account for the overwhelming majority of SI joint dysfunction procedure volume. But as I said, interventional, really nice growth opportunity for us. The other thing that we're doing is that a lot of the interventionalists that we're working with, they're in areas where the surgeons are not doing these procedures. And so it's been a real nice balance for us there. Overall, what we've tried to do is just develop the most comprehensive platform for SI joint dysfunction and really meet the needs of the physician and of the the patient as well. We do see some surgeons, some interventionalists that are actually using both products depending upon what they think the needs are of the patient. The other thing that may be a little bit interesting to comment on here is that CMS has actually proposed around an 18% increase in the payment for CPT 27278 when it's performed in office. And so our intra® product, which is the only truly percutaneous product on the market. That is primarily where that product is used. And so once again, the reimbursement needs to be clearly defined in those particular markets. But we do think that we have a great solution for interventionalists that are interested in using the product. Just the last thing I would say, Dave, on Interventional is the new SI joint product we're launching in the first quarter of 2026 that's going to provide another surgical solution, and we believe it's going to simplify workflow and allow us to further expand our engagement with interventionalists.

Dave Turkerle - Equity Analyst - (00:34:42)

Great. Thank you for that. Maybe just as a quick follow up, given some of the positive commentary around Granite, I know you kind of highlighted maybe 40% of those procedures with the TPT could go outpatient over time. Curious if you still think that's the right sort of target or could it be higher? Thank you.

Laura - (00:35:02)

Yeah, you're exactly right that based on the data right now most of the surgeons that we're working with are performing these procedures inpatient. But there was a pretty significant shift and proposal to increase and allow various procedures into the outpatient setting and ASC setting as well. So one of the things I'd highlight is that CMS proposed a Level 7 APC, which was around a $28,000 payment for certain higher cost lumbar fusion procedures, and they're now allowed to perform those procedures in an outpatient setting. Also, CPT 27280, which describes open SI joint fusion, was removed from the inpatient only list. So it gives more confidence in the flexibility, the code selection and the economic viability of Granite. And then the last comment I would make is given that Granite has been awarded a transitional pass through code effective at the beginning of this year and a $0 device offset, we do think that that may be another driver for surgeons to take some of these patients that previously had done procedures in an inpatient setting and move them to an outpatient setting. And it's a big opportunity. Specifically, especially short construct degenerative spine procedures. There's around 100,000 of those that are performed every single year. And those are the particular procedures that we would expect to see more of in an outpatient setting.

OPERATOR - (00:36:53)

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Young Lee with Jeffries. The line is open.

Young Lee - Equity Analyst - (00:37:03)

All right, great. Thanks for taking our questions. I guess to start kind of curious. You know, you've been adding more and more surgeons on a quarterly basis. Is there any way you can help us understand, you know, how Quickly the newer surgeons come up to the curve versus surgeons in prior cohorts, prior years, with more experience, you know, is it sort of easier to convert them to do more procedures just given there's more broader experience and literature out there?

Laura - (00:37:42)

Yeah, it's a great question. And our product platform expansion strategy really is set centered around increasing procedural density. So with the broadening of our portfolio and the ability for our surgeons to do multiple procedures, it really does help to drive that procedural density. We did talk a little bit about this information in our prepared remarks where we said if you looked at a surgeon that had done a procedure a year ago, that that's same surgeon on average was doing over five procedures per quarter, which is almost double what the average surgeon is actually doing. So it does give you an idea of how significant the maturation of the physician base will have on the growth and procedural density that we should see over the coming quarters. That at least gives you a little bit of a picture. I'll also just say that on average it takes around three years for a physician to fully ramp up and get to the overall average. Now that is just for SI joint dysfunction, but if you include deformity, it does go a little bit faster. But at least those year over year numbers should help answer the question that you're asking.

Young Lee - Equity Analyst - (00:39:09)

All right, great. Very helpful. And then I guess on the commercial side, you know, you've been keeping the territories and agents pretty steady over the past year. You know, they've been growing more and more productive, increasing the the average ticket per territory. Think you're going to be expanding to more territories? Probably around 100. Can you maybe add some thoughts around that timing and the pace of that as well as on the agent side? Should we expect to see some sort of expansion on the agent side as well?

Anshul - (00:39:58)

Yeah, Young, happy to take that question. So really pleased with how the commercial organizations actually ramped up the revenue per territory over the last several years. Now, just in this quarter, you saw that revenue per territory grow 23%, about 2.1 million. So ahead of the goal that we had set when we went public at 2 million. We're not setting a new target at this point on how much more we can do per territory. We know we've got examples out there where a lot of our large territories have used various permutations of the hybrid model and do well north of 3 million in annualized revenue. So we know we can do better, but what we're focused on is adding more territories over the next 12 to 18 months. You're right. We want to get to about 100 over the next, I'd say 15 months. Part of that is in preparation for the new product launches that we have coming in. first quarter and also the third directory device that once we file the 510(k), we want to start ramping up our sales force to be able to be set to drive the adoption there as well. So you will see us grow there on the agent side. That model has actually worked out really well for us. You will continue to see the agent side expand as well. It provides our territory managers with the ability to maintain the connectivity with the customers while focusing on market development and expansion. And the agents and distributors can then provide bandwidth for case coverage.

Young Lee - Equity Analyst - (00:41:31)

Right.

Anshul - (00:41:31)

So that model's worked out really well for us. We don't see that change. And so I think that model will continue on our end. We will add new territories, but we do expect the hybrid commercial model to drive incremental productivity over time.

Young Lee - Equity Analyst - (00:41:49)

All right, thank you very much.

OPERATOR - (00:41:51)

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew o' Brien with Piper Sandler. Your line is open afternoon.

Matthew O'Brien - Equity Analyst - (00:42:02)

Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe Laura, just for starters, on the new product side of things, can you just talk a little bit about where you are in terms of momentum across the portfolio? Because it sounds like it's building and you've got some reimbursement tailwinds that could accelerate it next year and then beyond. So just kind of where are we at in terms of a bunch of these new products and then some of these catalysts that may help you kind of even sustain or accelerate the performance of the business over the next two or three years?

Laura - (00:42:33)

Yeah, great question. So what I'd say is the growth that we're experiencing is broad based at this point, Matt. So we're seeing strong demand for our existing solutions and then rapid adoption of some of our new products. We had three products that actually launched in 2024, so experiencing double digit growth in our physician base across all of our call points. We also have healthy double digit procedure volume growth across all of our modalities. And if I even dig a little bit deeper, Granite 9.5 is clearly becoming a preferred solution for our surgeons who are adopting pelvic fixation and then TNT, although it's still small. As I said in my prepared remarks, we saw a record number of physicians perform a procedure there and we're really excited about putting the when the NTAP® goes into Place on October 1st. And I also mentioned a little bit about putting Additional third party agents into place. Very similar to the strategy that we used with Granite. That's been highly successful. We see something similar happening here. Finally, on SI joint dysfunction, we also saw that double digit procedure volume growth and double digit percentage physician growth. And it's off of a bigger base, as you may guess. So it really highlights the strength in the market. So the strategy that we're really following here is to maximize the potential of each of our physicians. And we're trying to gain share as a leader in all of our modalities. The idea is to continue to drive that surgeon density, increase the number of procedures that are being done per surgeon, while also trying to further penetrate that broad market opportunity we have. There's 12,000 physicians that we're targeting with our various procedures. And then finally ASP is an important aspect of this too. And we're seeing continued strength in our ASPs beyond what we had even guided to. So the strategy that we have in place is working. We're seeing strong results. And even though we're being conservative about how we're approaching our guidance for the second half of the year, we've never been in a better position as a company. And even talking about those new products as well, what we're trying to give you a flavor for is what's to come in 2026 and what's to come in 2027. That SI bone really provides this unique, differentiated high growth platform that we're now seeing consistent profitability and we're seeing the turn toward positive cash flow.

Matthew O'Brien - Equity Analyst - (00:45:25)

Okay, I appreciate that. And then can you just talk. Your commentary about the ASC opportunity, especially with the new product that you should get early next year, is intriguing. Can you talk about that opportunity to grow the business and then additional investments that are required there that we may not be fully contemplating? Thank you.

Laura - (00:45:44)

Yeah, actually it's a very natural extension for US. Currently in SI Joint Fusion, I think we're going on around 35% of our business. That is, those procedures are being done in the ASC. So this isn't anything that's new for us. It's been a very strong area of growth over the last few years, starting basically from zero a few years ago to where we're at today. So in terms of the new launch that we're talking about for SI Joint Display Function, as I said, we are expecting to launch it in the first quarter of next year. So we're preparing our 510 application for the FDA and expect to submit that soon. That's going to be a Nice driver here for 2026 coming up. And that will be a product that would be targeted toward ASCs specifically. And, you know, from an investment standpoint, because it's with the existing call point, the existing sales force, you know, it fits naturally into the bag of our commercial sales force.

Matthew O'Brien - Equity Analyst - (00:46:58)

Got it. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:47:01)

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Caitlin Cronin with Canaccord Genoti. Your line is open.

Caitlin Cronin - Equity Analyst - (00:47:11)

Hi. Congrats on a great quarter, and thanks. For taking the questions. So, you know, just to start, I. Would have thought historically, you know, new surgeons would start utilizing your SI joint dysfunction products first. But as your portfolio evolves, maybe just.

Laura - (00:47:26)

Provide some color on if naive SI bone surgeons are, you know, first engaging on other parts of your portfolio before SI joint fusion. Yeah, we do see. SI joint fusion has been the cornerstone of the business. And we do, as I said previously, we're continuing to see significant growth around our SI joint fusion business and the number of physicians that are performing those procedures. But we also have seen it coming from our granite business as well, because granite really is working with different surgeons in some cases. So especially, let's talk about surgeons that focus more specifically on adult deformity. Those typically are not surgeons that are going to do SI joint fusion. So all of a sudden, we are actually being introduced to a new population of surgeons that previously had not adopted SI joint fusion. And what we try to do is meet the surgeon wherever they're at. If they're interested in SI joint fusion, we're working with them and educating them on that side of the business. If they're more interested in pelvic fixation, we're focusing there, too. So in terms of how we think about deepening our relationships with these surgeons, let's take a typical SI joint future fusion surgeon. What we're able to do is get them started on SI joint fusion, and then especially as it relates to their shorter construct procedures, which those are the procedures that these surgeons are doing every single day in their practice. We'll talk to them also and train them on our granite product. But we'll also do the opposite with somebody that's a granite user that really better understands the role of the SI joint and how SI joint fusion makes a difference for their patients as well. So it's a halo effect that we see with our SI joint fusion business, but similarly with our granite business.

Caitlin Cronin - Equity Analyst - (00:49:38)

That's great. And then just a bit more color. On the investments that you expect would lead to cash use in the second half is that the surgical Capacity for. TNT specific specifically or just overall surgical capacity and spending?

Anshul - (00:49:53)

Yes. On the free cash flow side, Caitlin, look, we're really pleased with our third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted ebitda and that's a reflection of the operational excellence and the business momentum that we have now. We did get to cash flow breakeven in Q2, and we're really proud of that milestone. It's ahead of what we had set as an external target in terms of the second half of the year. Yes, most of the spend is going to be on surgical capacity and building the inventory, especially as we go into the fourth quarter, which tends to be our biggest quarter, but also as we start ramping up for the launch of the product Laura talked about within the SI joint dysfunction® in the first quarter of 2026.

Caitlin Cronin - Equity Analyst - (00:50:42)

Makes sense. Thanks so much for taking the questions.

OPERATOR - (00:50:46)

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Osborne with Canto Fitzgerald. The line is open.

Matthew Park - (00:50:55)

Hey guys, this is Matthew park on Ferocity. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess starting with the OUS business and the torque rollout in Europe, I was just hoping to get some additional color on how the launch is ramping in terms of procedural volume or acquisition interest. And then more broadly, how are you thinking about the role of international markets and contributing to overall growth over the next few years?

Laura - (00:51:16)

Yeah, I'm happy to take that. So international is a small percent of our business, but it's a really important market for us. And just to keep in mind, the last time we launched a new product in Europe, it was seven years ago. So we're really excited about the impact torque could have in those markets. We know the impact TORQs had in the US on the SI joint dysfunction business. It's been a very important growth driver, especially with newer docs. So we were really excited about the potential for that in Europe. And then like I said in my prepared remarks, if early indications, both from surgeons and interventionalists, is an indicator of what that potential is, we're feeling pretty good about the impact TOR can have on reigniting our growth in Europe. Now, we did get the regulatory approval a little bit later than we expected. So the first cases were performed in the third quarter versus our expectation of the second quarter. And as we all know, third quarter in Europe can be a little bit slower. So our assumptions going in is most of the training will take place in the latter half of third quarter into the fourth quarter. So our current guidance assumes a very minimal impact of torque revenue in Europe in Q4. So that could be an upside if Things go better, but our expectations is torque will accelerate growth for Europe in 2026. Got it. That's helpful.

Matthew Park - (00:52:50)

And then maybe one more from me. I guess, given that you guys achieved cash flow, break even this quarter and maintain a strong cash, how are you thinking about prioritizing capital deployment, particularly between the balance of continued investment and commercial and product initiatives versus other uses?

Anshul - (00:53:09)

Yeah, I'm happy to take that. So from cash flow perspective or profitability perspective, our expectation is revenue growth rate will outpace OPEX growth rate going forward. Now, it may vary from one year to another. It could be 1.25 to 1.75x depending on the year and the amount of investment we're making. We are going to continue to make investment in R&D. Laura has talked about two products. We've got additional products in the hopper that will come out in subsequent years. So we will continue to make investments there. We will. So you could think about it as sort of 10% of revenue in R&D, similar to what we've done historically. On the sales and marketing side, you will see us add to our direct sales force, but most of the increase will be linear to revenue growth because it's variable compensation. And on the GNA side, I think you will continue to see leverage there as well. So net net, I think the P and L is well positioned to be able to drive that leverage and we have the liquidity to make investment in some of these organic growth initiatives that we have. Got it. That's helpful.

Matthew Park - (00:54:27)

Thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on the quarter.

David Saxon - (00:54:30)

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Saxon with Needleman company. Your line is open. Great.

Laura - (00:54:40)

Good afternoon, Laura and Anschel. Thanks for taking my questions. And congrats on the quarter. So maybe I'll start with active surgeons up 25% year on year. Really strong growth there in the script. Laura, you talked about med school training programs. So in terms of the kind of average profile of the new doctors you're adding, are they mostly coming out of med school or are these more experienced doctors? And then is there any difference in the utilization ramp that you see across docs coming out of med school versus more experienced or more established doctors? Yeah, those are good questions. So we are really pleased with the 1440 surgeons who did at least one case in the second quarter, 25% growth. But as I said previously, there's actually around 12,000 physicians that are targets for us. And so we do have this very significant Runway to expand our active user base. You talked a little Bit about residents and fellows and it's really a multi year effort to engage residents and fellows. We started these activities in 2019. But what's great about it is once you've provided that education to them, they think about diagnosis and treatment as soon as they start practicing. So it's very different from working with a surgeon who has been working with patients for many years. In terms of the profile, by and large, I would say that it continues to be physicians that have been in practicing for many years. Just because there's only a few hundred surveys, surgeons typically coming out of a fellowship program and starting their careers in any given year. So it's a broad based activity that we engage in in order to both work with existing surgeons as well as new surgeons. In terms of utilization, as I said, the utilization is probably a little bit higher with the new physical physicians that we see coming in just because they're going to start regularly diagnosing and treating. But the reality is it's just getting those surgeons to fully adopt our procedures, number one, and then number two to get them to be doing multiple procedures as well. So we're really pleased with what we're seeing. We see a very nice Runway in front of of us in terms of continuing to bring on active physicians and also deepening the relationship and increasing the number of procedures that our active surgeons are performing.

David Saxon - (00:57:35)

Okay, great. Thanks for that, Laura. And then in terms of granite, I think you've been working on getting a new code for that procedure. So is the NTAP extended extension related to that work or could we still see that new code come out at some point? Thanks so much.

Laura - (00:57:55)

Yeah, it's a very good question as well. So in terms of what's happening on the reimbursement side, so CMS's decision was to increase spinal fusion DRGs by 6 to 8% for inpatient procedures. That's a result of the cost data that's out there and it reflects the increased frequency of lumbar fusion procedures that incorporate pelvic fixation. We believe the impact of the increased DRG could be as high as around $5,100 in unadjusted rates, but averaging around $3,800 in total. And that's comparable to the incremental NTAP reimbursement that the hospital received. Just as a reminder, for commercial payer cases, they never benefited from the ntap. And, and the majority of our cases have actually been these commercial pay patients. What CMS said is that they need more time to analyze the underlying data given the number of DRGs impacted by a reassignment request. So we're confident on our data. We're working closely with CMS through what we see as an administrative process. And the timing referral really is not related to our request. It's just the workload that CMS is working with right now. So we're excited about the proposed addition also of the level 07 APC, which is higher cost lumbar fusion procedures going into the outpatient setting and also removing 27280 from the inpatient list and TPT for granite with that table PPT with a zero device offset, we think that could be a pretty significant tailwind to our business. So overall, a lot going on from a reimbursement perspective, from a granite perspective specifically, significant increase in the existing DRGs, continued activity from us around a DRG reassignment, excitement around the transitional pass through code, and finally the addition of the level 7 APC codes, moving some of these procedures that would include granite into the outpatient setting.

David Saxon - (01:00:15)

Great. Thanks so much for that.

OPERATOR - (01:00:18)

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Richard Newitter with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Felipe - (01:00:27)

Hi, this is Felipe on for Rich. Just in the context of gross margin, the first half has been pretty strong as we think about 2020. The street is modeling about 100 basis points of gross margin compression. Could you just remind us just the different pieces that are impacting gross margin in 26 that we should be thinking about? Thanks so much for taking the question. Yeah, I'm not going to be providing specific 2026 guidance at this point. We'll provide that when we get into 2026. But as I've shared in my prepared remarks in previous, we expect our gross margins to be a little bit more dynamic over the next few years. We've obviously outperformed our original expectation for gross margin that we set at the start of this year, which was, like I said, 77% to 78%. We're now upping our guidance to 70.5% to 79%. So that bodes really well going into next year. We do think over the medium term, so you could think over the next two or three years gross margins sort of settling in that 76% to 77% range. Part of that, as I said earlier to an earlier question, we do expect savings from our ongoing gross margin initiatives to play out. But offsetting those are the cost of newer products that we want to launch and the surgical capacity that goes with them. Those will be subscale in the initial year, so the cost tends to be a bit higher. So we think that's the appropriate, thoughtful way of setting gross margin expansion expectations over the next two, three years.

Anshul - (01:02:02)

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Laura for closing remarks.

OPERATOR - (01:02:12)

Thank you so much and thanks everyone for participating in our call today, as well as your interest in Si Bone. And we look forward to seeing you all at upcoming conferences. Goodbye, Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.