SiriusPoint achieves 17.9% operating return on equity, driven by strong underwriting and strategic MGA disposals, reinforcing positive future guidance.

OPERATOR - (00:01:42)

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to SiriusPoint third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. During today's presentation all parties will be in a listen only mode. Following the conclusion of prepared remarks, management will host a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and a replay is available through 11:59pm Eastern Time on November 14, 2025. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Liam Blackledge, Investor Relations and Strategy Manager.. Please go ahead.

Liam Blackledge - Investor Relations and Strategy Manager - (00:02:20)

Thank you operator and good morning or good afternoon to everyone listening. I welcome you to the SiriusPoint earning call for the 2025 third quarter and nine months result. Last night we issued our Earnings Press Release, 10-Q and Financial Supplement, which are available on our website www.siriuspt.com.. additionally, a webcast presentation will coincide with today's discussion and is available on our website. Joining me on the call today are Scott Egan, our Chief Executive officer and Jim McKinney, our chief financial Officer. Before we start, I would like to remind you that today's remarks contain forward looking statements based on management's current expectations. Actual results may differ. Certain non GAAP financial measures will also be discussed. Management uses the non GAAP financial measures in its internal analysis of our results of operations and believes that they may be informative to investors engaging the quality of our financial performance and identifying trends in our results. However, these measures should not be considered as a substitute for or superior to the measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Please refer to page 2 of our investor presentation and the company's latest public filings with the securities and Exchange Commission for additional information. I will now turn the call over to Scott. Thanks Liam and good morning. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining our third quarter and nine months 2025 results call. The third quarter was another successful quarter of delivery for SiriusPoint. A strong underwriting performance, deliberately targeted growth, the announcement of two MGA disposals insurer Reinsurer of the Year at the Insurance Insider US Honors and an upgrade to positive outlook from S&P means there is a lot to be pleased about. Our ambition remains the same. Keep building on the progress and momentum whilst targeting sustained levels of best in class performance. The third quarter was another step along the road on that journey and we remain completely focused with no room for complacency. In terms of specifics, our core combined ratio of 89.1% delivered an 11% increase in underwriting income versus last year, aided in part by no catastrophe losses. In the quarter we achieved a strong operating return on equity of 17.9% significantly ahead of our across the cycle 12 to 15% target range. More importantly, our year to date operating return on equity of 16.1%, it's still outperforming a range despite the heightened first half losses from the California wildfires and aviation. Therefore, we would not describe the first nine months as being quiet as in fact our catastrophe losses are over 50 million higher than prior year. This puts our 16.1% operating return on equity into contact and is an important proof point of the improvement in the quality of our earnings. In addition to a strong financial delivery, the third quarter also saw significant execution on the rationalization of our MGA investments. We announced agreements for the sale of our 100% stake in Armada and our 49% stake in Arcadian for combined total proceeds of $389 million, valuing them together at around 15 times EBITDA. Upon closure of these deals, over 200 million of off balance sheet value will be recognized in our book value representing a per share increase of approximately $1.75. Finally, the quarter also saw our third outlook upgrade of the year with S&P upgrading our outlook to positive. Joining the previous upgrades from am, Best and Fitch, we have added a new slide this quarter linked to delivery against our ambition to become a disciplined underwriter with a low volatility portfolio. Slide 10 shows our combined ratio volatility against our peers over the past two years. This demonstrates the significant progress we have made in managing the volatility of our underwriting both at an individual risk level and across the portfolio. We talk often about our disciplined approach to portfolio management of risk and as you can see since our turnaround and reshaping we now rank amongst the top performers over the past couple of years. Our aim is to continue to build this track record. We have now delivered 12 consecutive quarters underwriting profits and 18 consecutive quarters of favorable prior year development. I also want to spend a few moments talking about the strong top line momentum we have within the company. Gross premiums written grew double digit again in the quarter at 26% year over year. This is now our sixth consecutive quarter with a double digit growth profile. This was driven in large part by strong growth within our insurance and services business and particularly from our accident and health surety and attritional property books of business. In particular, I want to highlight our accident and health division. This business acts as a volatility shock absorber within the wider underwriting portfolio portfolio. Given its short tail and low volatility characteristics. It also boasts a long track record of high capital returns. Our action in the Health division allows us to take disciplined risk in other areas but still remain within our guide rails to achieve a low volatility portfolio overall. It also has the added advantage of being less correlated to wider P&C pricing cycles. This division accounts for almost 1 billion of gross premiums written on an annualised basis and forms a significant part of our company. Elsewhere within our insurance and services business we are seeing strong growth from surety which like accident and Health is less correlated to wider PNC pricing cycles. Premiums here are derived via the MGA distribution channel. Turning specifically to look at the premium we write via the MGA distribution channel again, we have included an additional slide in the quarter to share more details on our approach. Slide 13 focuses on the length of the relationship linked to the derived premium. In short, we are more careful with newer partners. Whilst they make up approximately a third by number we only make up 9% of our overall MGA premiums. We tend to have higher premium volumes with more mature partners where we have gained greater historical experience. Around 90% of our overall portfolio comes from partners who we have had a relationship with for three years or more. We think this seasoning is an important part of our approach to risk taking. Our selection process, which declines around 80% of opportunities presented, seeks out partners who want to form deep long term relationships. Looking at our existing relationships in the last year we have continued writing business with 97% of the partners of we have previously onboarded over a year ago. This demonstrates our ability to seek out those partners who we will work with on a long term basis and those who share our underwriting and risk philosophies. In addition to our cautious approach to risk taking in the early days of a relationship, we also apply the same logic to our reserving. Under a risk based approach to reserving, newer relationships are generally reserved above pricing projections to account for uncertainty from limited performance experience. Lastly, we have profit sharing features in place for around 87% of our MGA partners driving alignment of interest linked to underwriting performance Coming back briefly to the sale of our MGA investments, as I mentioned earlier, this quarter saw us reach agreements to sell two MGA investments, Armada and Acadian. Importantly, we also signed long term capacity deals with them both until 2030 and 2031 respectively. On existing economic terms, Armada, the most material to our book value, remains on track to close in the fourth quarter and Acadian remains on track to close close in the first quarter of next year. We reaffirm our commitment to a long term ROE across the cycle target of 12 to 15%. Post these disposals, IMG is now our only 100% owned MGA, generating roughly $50 million of net service fee income on an annual basis. As a reminder, the carrying value on our balance sheet is $70 million. IMG is a key part of our wider accident and health ecosystem, generating around 25% of the accident and Health Underwriting Division's premium as well as a healthy MGA margin in its own right. We are excited about the future of IMG and announced last week the appointment of a new CEO, Will Nihan who joins us from Travelex.. Finally, our capital remains Strong and our third quarter BSCR ratio improved to 226% which is within our target range as we continue to deploy capital to support the organic growth opportunities of the business. Of course we expect this to increase post the closing of the MGA transactions I have mentioned. As we think ahead on capital given these sales, we are taking a look at our capital stack and more specifically our hybrid instruments. When we conducted the buybacks related to the CMIG. shareholder agreement we increased our leverage. Jim will cover this in more detail but with the Series B preference shares having a rate reset coming up in February 26th, we have an opportunity to reduce leverage to pre CMIG. agreement levels whilst reducing our financing costs meaningfully. Before I pass across to Jim, I also wanted to highlight that last month saw the company earn another award, this time Insurer Reinsurer of the Year at the US Insurance Insider Honors Awards. This follows a Program Insurer of the Year award which we received in May at the Program Manager Awards. Whilst they don't mean anything in and of themselves, I think we can take them as further proof points of our progress. So I will finish what I always do. I'm incredibly proud of the team and the commitment, desire and determination they have shown again so far this year. As I reflect back on my third anniversary as CEO, our progress is strong but it could not be done without our biggest asset, our people. I am grateful to all of them for what they have done and what they do every day and I am excited about our future. Our collective aim is to continue our upward trajectory to become a best in class specialty underwriter. With that I'll pass it off to Jim who will take you through the financials in more detail.

Scott Egan - Chief Executive Officer - (00:14:44)

Thank you Scott. Turning to our third quarter results on Slide 16 in the third quarter and for the first nine months of the year we delivered excellent financial results on a consolidated basis and in each of our segments. Our diverse portfolio continues to showcase profitable premium growth with low volatility and highly attractive lines of business. At 89.1%, the core combined ratio is strong and broadly in line with the previous year. The combination of higher premiums, a strong core attritional loss ratio,, lower expense ratio and no catastrophe losses produced core underwriting income of 70 million. This is an 11% increase from the third quarter of 2024 and our 12th consecutive quarter positive income. These items are a testament to the team's strong execution, disciplined underwriting and focused capital management. Moving to net service fee income, we benefited from a 22% increase in year over year service revenues as well as net service fee income increasing 47% to $10 million. The investment result is 73 million. It includes the full impact of the actions taken during the first quarter to support our repurchase activities. Net investment income continues to benefit from a supportive yield environment and remain on track with our full year guidance of net interest income between 265 million and 270 million dol $75 million. Operating net income is 85 million. This excludes non reoccurring items such as foreign exchange losses. On a per share basis, this increased by 41% to 72 cents. We previously referred to this metric as underlying net income but have renamed it this quarter to better reflect the nature of this metric as the business moves past its repositioning history. Net income for the quarter is 87 million, a strong year over year improvement from 5 million last year. In summary, our third quarter results demonstrate our ability to profitably grow a low volatility portfolio and create meaningful value for all of our stakeholders. Moving to our nine month results on Slide 17, themes are consistent with the third quarter. Strong execution, disciplined underwriting and focused capital management is producing profitable growth. Gross written premium, net written premium and net earned premium grew 16%, 19% and 18% respectively. Growth was particularly strong in the third quarter. We expect fourth quarter premiums to be more in line with the growth produced on a year to date basis. Common shareholders equity increased 273 million to 2 billion, resulting in diluted book value per share ex aoci growing 13% were $1.83 to $16.47. Moving to Slide 18 and double clicking into our underlying earnings quality, our underwriting first focus continues to deliver strong underlying margin improvement. The attritional combined ratio chart on the left hand side of the page strips out the impact from catastrophe losses and prior year development. As these inherently vary over time, we believe this metric is useful to examine the quality of our underwriting income. Our 90.9% core attritional combined ratio in the first nine months of the year represents a 1.8 point improvement versus the prior year period of 92.7%. All facets of the ratio improved. The attritional loss ratio, improved 0.9 points, the acquisition cost improved 0.2 points and the OUE improved 0.7 points. Important to note, we continue to benefit from scale from our earned premium growth for the full year. We remain comfortable with our previously stated expense ratio expectation of 6.5% to 7%. The right hand side provides a bridge from our underlying earnings quality to our core combined ratio. This display 3 points of favorable prior year development in the first nine months partially offsetting 3.5 points of catastrophe losses that relate entirely to the first quarter California wildfires Turning to our insurance and services Segment Results On Slide 19, gross written premium increased 186 million or 49% to $562 million in the quarter driven by strong growth within all of our specialties. Year to date Gross written premium increased 367 million or 26% to 1.8 billion. The insurance and services segment achieved a combined ratio of 90.1%. This is a 2.3 point improvement from the prior year quarter. This was driven by a 2.3 point decrease in the loss ratio and a 2 point decrease in other underwriting expenses partially offset by a 2 point increase in the acquisition cost ratio. The improvement is due to improving risk selection and a shift in business mix. Double clicking on our accident and health book of business A and H provides us with a stable source of underwriting profit and a strong double digit return on capital. During the first nine months of the year premiums for this specialty grew 24% and now accounts for 45% of the segment gross written premium. For the areas we focus on, the pricing environment continues to meet our risk return requirements. We continue to see growth opportunities within this specialism. Turning to casualty year to date premiums have increased by 4% driven by strong rate offset by decreased volumes. In the first half of the year we allocated capital towards other opportunities that have more attractive underlying margins. Subsequently in the third quarter we saw growth opportunities, within select general liability subclasses. Overall, there are many classes we remain cautious on due to pricing challenges, notably public DNL and commercial auto. Where as previously indicated we have substantially reduced premium and exposure.In terms of casualty pricing, we continue to benefit from rate and excess of trend, particularly in excess casualty that has seen mid double digit rate increases. Our priority is the bottom line over top line. If conditions change, we will not be afraid to take decisive action to ensure appropriate underwriting margins. Other specialties continue to see strong growth highlighted by surety and environmental. Both of these lines have seen strong year over year and quarter over quarter increases in premiums within marine and energy, rate trends are similar to those described in the second quarter. Cargo and hull generally saw single digit rate decreases. Rates for marine liability are firmer ranging from flat to low and single digit rises. Energy liability rates remain positive and average 5%. Last premium for our property specialty are strong on both a third quarter and year to date basis. This is driven by growth from our international business where we are writing select opportunities mostly in the uk. This business has a controlled volatility profile with a focus on lower limit residential and SME properties protected by excess of loss reinsurance for larger events. Moving to our reinsurance Segment Results on Slide 20 this quarter gross written premium decreased by 5 million or 2% to 310 million. We saw growth in casualty offset by a decrease in aviation premium with property premium broadly flat. Trends were similar on a net written premium basis. On a nine months basis gross written premium increased by 1% while on a net basis premiums written decreased by 3%. The combined ratio for the quarter increased by 3.3 points to 87.9%. The result was driven by a 1.2 point improvement in the acquisition cost ratio offset by a 4.4 point increase in the loss ratio, largely the result of decreased favorable prior year development. Double clicking into casualty reinsurance. Gross written premium increased 7% in the quarter. It is down 2% for the nine months. Casualty reinsurance continued to benefit from positive rate that exceeded trend aligned with our fourth quarter 2024 guidance. We reduced exposures on structured deals and certain casualty classes at 1:1. This is a result of underwriting discipline and our ability to allocate capital to the best opportunities. Other specialties saw gross written Premium decrease by 10% this quarter. Year to date we are up 6%. The reduction is the result of reduced aviation premium. We remain cautious on this specialty as we seek further rate increases to achieve rate adequacy, particularly with major airlines. A majority of major airline renewals occur in the fourth quarter. Our capital allocation to this area will depend on rate achieved and price adequacy elsewhere. In other specialties, credit and bond pricing continues to be pressured stemming from favorable historical results and ample market capacity. Within property reinsurance premiums were flat in the quarter with softening in excess of loss largely offset by an increase in demand for surplus relief via quota share. Here, carriers are driving additional demand specifically for secondary perils coverage following market expansion resulting from the improved market conditions and regulatory environment. For the first nine months, premiums are roughly flat with reinstatement premiums from the California wildfires offsetting premium reductions. We will continue to monitor rate adequacy and property reinsurance and be disciplined capital allocators slide 21 shows our catastrophe losses versus peers and the reduction in the volatility of our portfolio following portfolio actions taken in 2022, we have materially decreased our catastrophe exposure in order to deliver more consistent returns to our shareholders. The charts show how we reduced our catastrophe losses in 2023 and 24 and have continued on this path in 2025. Catastrophe losses in the first nine months represent 3.5 points of our combined ratio and were largely driven by the first quarter California wildfires. We have a comparatively low loss ratio demonstrating the benefits of our diversified portfolio. I would like to take a moment on behalf of all of serious point to send our thoughts to all those who have been affected by Hurricane Melissa earlier this week. At present we expect this to be a manageable loss with our net exposure in the affected regions around 10 million. Moving to reserving Our strong history of prudence is shown on slide 22. Favorable prior year development in the quarter stood at 9 million for the core business versus 30 million in the prior year quarter. It is important to consider our consolidated result here as this includes the business we have put in runoff. We had favorable prior year development on a consolidated basis of 9 million, marking the 18th consecutive quarter of favorable prior year development.Our track record of consecutive favorable releases well exceeds the average duration of our insurance liabilities of 2.8 years, highlighting our. Prudent approach to reserving. Additionally, we show here the strong level of protection we have on each of these Loss Portfolio Transfers that were completed in 2021, 2023 and 2024. Turning to our strong investment result on Slide 23, net investment income for the first nine months of the year was $206 million, down slightly from the prior year period as a result of a lower asset base following the settlement of the CM Bermuda transaction in the first quarter, we reinvested over 900 million this quarter. With new money yields continuing to be in excess of 4.5%, the portfolio continues to perform well and there were no defaults across our fixed income portfolio. We remain committed to our investment strategy which focuses on high quality fixed income securities. 83% of our investment portfolio is fixed income of which 99% is investment grade with an average credit rating of AA minus Our overall portfolio duration remained at 3.1 years while assets backing loss reserves remain fully matched and are at 2.8 years. Moving on to Slide 24 looking at our strong and diversified capital base, our third quarter estimated BSCR ratio increased 3 points to 226%. Our capital position remains strong and contains sufficient prudence as shown by the stress test scenario of a 1 in 250 year PML event. Moving on to our balance sheet on slide 25 we continue to have strong balance sheet with ample capital and liquidity. During the quarter the debt to capital ratio fell to 23.6% driven by an increase in shareholders equity from net income offset by weakening of the US dollar Swedish Korona exchange rate increasing the value of our debt issued in Corona. Our debt to capital levels remain within our targets. We continue to have strong liquidity levels including 662 million of liquidity available to the Holdco following the final payment of $483 million to see in Bermuda in the first quarter. As a reminder in the first half of the year both AM Best and Fitch revised our outlook to positive from stable. Whilst Moody's and S&P affirmed our ratings during the third quarter, S& P also revised our outlook to positive from stable. We believe our balance sheet continues to be undervalued in relation to the consolidated MGAs which we own. During the quarter we announced the sale of Armada which will increase book value by roughly 180 million upon close. We also announced the sale of our 49% stake in Arcadian. This will increase book value by roughly 25 to 30 million upon close. Following the sale of these MGA's we reaffirm our commitment to producing 12 to 15% ROE across the cycle. We expect to use the proceeds to redeem the 200 million of preference shares that we have outstanding at their upcoming rate reset on a pro forma basis. Using the proceeds from the sale to redeem the preference shares would reduce our leverage ratio including preference shares from 31% to 24%. This will enhance our credit profile and reduce our cost of debt. With this we conclude the financial section of our presentation. This quarter saw a continuation of strong double digit growth in our top line while delivering a core combined ratio in the high 80s that contains continued attritional loss ratio improvement. This is our seventh consecutive quarter of attritional loss ratio improvement. Operating return on equity for the quarter of 17.9% contributes to a nine month operating return on equity of 16.1%. We are on track to deliver another year with a strong return on equity at or above our 12 to 15%. Across the cycle target. We have built a strong track record of delivery and this quarter's result further validates the significant progress we have made on our journey to becoming a best in class specialty underwriter. With that, I hand the call back over to the operator. We can now open the lines for questions.

OPERATOR - (00:30:15)

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Phillips with Oppenheimer and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Phillips - Equity Analyst - (00:30:41)

Thank you. Good morning everybody. Good afternoon. First off, congrats on the quarter and appreciate the slide. The new slide, slide 13 is nice to see. I'm so glad you guys added that. Question on I guess insurance and kind of to Jim's last couple comments on the attritional loss ratio, improvements. You know, you've taken it nicely down from mid-60s to, you know, now teasing 60s, low 60s and I assume part of that, a good part of that is because of the mix shift in. The company in that segment. I guess so as we think about continued probably mix shift, A&H maturity and different things that you're really growing in. And think about that line item for the attrition of acting or loss ratio, it seems like, you know, are we teasing to get below 60 as we.

Scott Egan - Chief Executive Officer - (00:31:24)

Look forward is the question. Michael, thank you very much for the question and thanks for your comments at the beginning as well. Jim, you can jump in a second as well. Look, I think, Michael, the way I think about it is obviously we've done a lot of the hard work over the past few years which was really reshaping the portfolio obviously because of the profile of our distribution. Sometimes when we win a new MGA relationship that can see things sort of move. But I wouldn't expect any material movements if I'm honest with you. As we sort of, you know, look out and over, our ambition is always to, is always to reduce it obviously all of our ratios. But obviously we have to take into account the environment as well. So I would say look, it's more sort of status quo, Michael, to be honest, rather than sort of incremental moves. But obviously if that Mix shift change changes because we are making decisions or because we win sort of new relationships, then obviously we'll be very clear in our guidance. But Jim, do you want to add anything beyond what I've said?

Jim McKinney - Chief Financial Officer - (00:32:29)

No, I think that's well said. I think at this stage we're likely it's a mix shift element. What is clear is our targets from an ROE perspective and our commitment that we're earning appropriate returns on the deployment of capital. And so I would think about us continuing to optimize and to grow that as the real focus point.

Scott Egan - Chief Executive Officer - (00:32:53)

And Michael, I'll just come back on that as well, because one of the things, for example, in something like reinsurance, you know, as we look into some of the more structured products, you know, if that mix shift changes, obviously you can get quite a shift in terms of sort of, you know, loss ratio, acquisition cost, et cetera. But look, for us, we'll go after where we think there's the most value. If we pull back in certain areas, we'll be very clear on what and why. But always with good first principles, which is number one, underwriting principle. And I think Jim captured it perfectly for me, which is, look, we think of it holistically in ROE and don't just sort of pull one particular lever. And we can sometimes see value in different areas, which obviously would shift between acquisition cost and loss ratio and obviously oue much smaller number. But ultimately we've made great progress in that over the last few years. So look, we'll be as transparent as it possibly can be. And look, hopefully the slides helped a bit as well. And thank you for your comments in that regard.

Michael Phillips - Equity Analyst - (00:33:53)

Yeah, no thanks. I guess, given the pretty significant jump in insurance growth this quarter. I know last year is when you, I think you took out the 90 million dollars, so I know we're apples to apples from this year to last year, but just help us think about how we can, I guess, model the premium growth going forward. Was there any anomalies in this quarter in either A&H or Shuri that kind.

Scott Egan - Chief Executive Officer - (00:34:15)

Of led to the growth this quarter? Not anomalies. I definitely wouldn't describe them as that, Michael, I mean, what can happen obviously is we can win new relationships and obviously that can impact it. Obviously, we've tried to be clear over the last few quarters, I hope, where we can say we've been sort of leaning into them. So I think you can see the difference between our gross growth and our net written growth. And obviously there's a linkage there to earned premium, which is still to come, which I think is the point that Jim often. That Jim often makes. So look, I think what you could expect, subject to market conditions, profitability and a few other assumptions, is our ambition is to make sure that we season the relationships that we bought in in the one to two year segment on the pie chart. But obviously that will be subject to us being satisfied with the sort of underwriting performance and obviously market conditions. But I think that's effectively what we would be looking into. There's not really any anomalies per se. But, Jim, do you want to add anything?

Jim McKinney - Chief Financial Officer - (00:35:23)

Yeah, I would just say, Michael, maybe just thinking a little bit about trends. As Scott indicated, no anomalies from a quarter perspective or in a year over year that you take a look at. It's been a pipeline that has been growing and the strength of our relationships have been growing that have enabled what, you know, we've seen from a quarter growth perspective. I would highlight, and we tried to, you know, call this out. When I think about what, you know, growth might be, for example, in the fourth quarter, we're thinking that it would be much closer to what we experienced maybe year to date, recognizing that the fourth quarter tends to be or sometimes is a little bit slower than maybe kind of what your first quarter or some of the other quarters might be from just an overall kind of seasonality perspective and just where we see policies being written. Yeah, thanks, Jim. And that comment was more on insurance, correct?

Michael Phillips - Equity Analyst - (00:36:25)

Just to. Just to be clear.

Jim McKinney - Chief Financial Officer - (00:36:27)

Yes, it was.

Michael Phillips - Equity Analyst - (00:36:28)

Yes. Yeah. Okay, cool. All right, good. Thanks. That's all I have for now. I'll circle back quick. Thank you very much. Thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:36:37)

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you'd like to join the question queue, Please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We'll pause a moment to allow for any other questions. Mr. Blackledge, there are no other questions at this time. I'll turn the floor back to you for final comments.

Liam Blackledge - Investor Relations and Strategy Manager - (00:37:06)

Thank you everyone for joining us today. If you have any follow up questions, we will be around to take your call or you can email us on investor.relations@siriuspt.com thank you for your ongoing support and I hope you enjoy the remainder of your day. I will now turn it back over to the operator to wrap up the call.

OPERATOR - (00:37:24)

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