Orla Mining achieves record free cash flow and solid gold production, while advancing growth projects and maintaining strong operational resilience in Q3 2025.
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Summary
- Orla Mining reported a strong third quarter with record margins, free cash flow, and gold production, despite a pit wall event at Camino Rojo.
- The company is advancing growth projects, including Musselwhite mine life extension and the Camino Rojo Underground project, with a preliminary economic assessment expected in 2026.
- South Railroad project in Nevada is progressing towards final permits and construction, aiming for first gold in early 2028, with a feasibility study update forthcoming.
- The company sold 79,000 ounces of gold, generating $270 million in revenue, and reported net income of $49.3 million. The cash balance at the end of September was $327 million.
- Management highlighted commitment to environmental, social, and governance performance, with significant community engagement and sustainability initiatives across operations.
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Audra - Conference Operator - (00:00:35)
Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Orla Mining conference call for the third quarter 2025 results. My name is Audra and I will be your conference operator today. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Please be advised that this call is being recorded. I would like to turn the meeting over to Andrew Bradbury, Vice President Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead Mr. Bradbury.
Andrew Bradbury - Vice President Investor Relations and Corporate Development - (00:01:14)
Thank you Audra and welcome to Orla Mining's. Third quarter 2025 conference call. We will be making forward looking statements. During today's call and I would direct you to the second and third slides of the presentation which contain important cautionary notes. Notes regarding these forward looking statements. All dollar amounts discussed today will refer to To US Dollars unless otherwise indicated. The Orla executive team is on the call this morning and I'll now pass.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:01:37)
The call to Jason Simpson, President and CEO. Thanks Andrew Good morning everyone. I would like to walk you through the key developments of the last quarter, a period that tested our resilience but ultimately highlighted our operational strength and diversification. Most notably, we had another strong quarter with record margins delivering cash to the balance sheet. In particular, we generated record free cash flow supported by record gold production and price. At Muscle White the team had an outstanding quarter of strong gold production. At Camino Rojo, a pit wall event occurred in July but a stabilization plan was enacted quickly so the operations have rebounded nicely. The update to 2025 guidance reflects a deferral of mining higher grade material due to the mine resequencing. We are also making impressive strides in advancing our growth projects. At Musselwhite, our growth for longer vision is focused on both near term and longer term opportunities for resource growth, expanded production and mine life extension. Recent drilling has confirmed an extension of the main goal trend in indicating potential to extend the mine life and increase production from our cornerstone Canadian asset. At our Camino Rojo Underground project, work is underway on delivering the preliminary economic assessment in 2026. A key development steps and key development steps thereafter to advance this to a construction ready project which takes us to South Railroad, our heat leach project in Nevada that is now moving toward final permits and construction start with project updates to be delivered in the weeks ahead. This next building block will establish an operating presence in Nevada and take our annual production to closer to half a million ounces at competitive costs. We look forward to increasing the frequency of updates as we actualize this project. Andrew Cormier, our chief Operating officer, will now discuss our operating performance.
Andrew Cormier - Chief Operating Officer - (00:04:10)
Thank you. Jason Musselwhite mined 326,000 tons of ore and milled 329,000 tons at a mill head grade of 5.87 gram per tonne gold. Gold recovery rates of 95.3% resulted in production of nearly 58,000 ounces of gold. Our investment in new underground mobile equipment and preventative maintenance program on the existing equipment are contributing positively to the working conditions and productivity. Ventilation upgrades and underground infrastructure projects remain on track for completion in early 2026. The company continues to expect steady production and cost performance from the fourth quarter. At our Camino Rojo oxide mine, mining operations were temporarily suspended in late July following an uncontrolled movement material along the north wall of the open pit. Once again, I'm pleased to highlight zero injuries, zero credit damage, zero environmental impact as a result of the pit wall. Eventually, our pit wall monitoring systems worked well detecting the movement early and allowing us to pause mining and respond in a controlled manner. This incident validated our commitment to monitoring and safety protocols. We maintain production continuity by crushing and stacking existing stockpiles. I would like to thank our team who successfully mitigated the short term impact of ensuring consistent processing. The current plan includes mining from surface downwards to push back and stabilize the entire north wall and reestablish safe working conditions along the north side of the pit. The north wall will be reestablished at a lower overall slope angle at single 10 meter benches based on a design that reduces the risk. During the quarter, Shimito rojo mined nearly 0.7 million tons of ore and 2.4 million tons of waste for an implied strip ratio of 3.34. A total of 1.7 million tons of ore was stacked at an average grade of 0.44 grams per tonne gold, equating to an average stacking rate of approximately 18,900 tons per day. In addition, 1.1 million tons of low grade ore were rehandled and placed on the leach paddle at an average grade of 0.32 gram per tonne gold. In total, 2.8 million tons of ore at an average grade of 0.4 gram per tonne gold were placed on the heat beach pad during the quarter. Total quarterly production for Camino Royal was 22,059 ounces of gold. South Railroad hit an important milestone this corner with the Bureau of Land Management publishing the Notice of Intent in the Federal Register on August 13, which initiates the formal environmental impact statement process under NEPA. More recently, in November, South Railroad transitioned from participation under the FAS41 transparency process to a FAS41 covered project. The importance of this shift is that FAS41 coverage provides tools to support efficient reviews, reduce uncertainty, and help ensure the project meets the highest standards of environmental stewardship and regulatory compliance. In parallel, the US Army Corps of Engineers Section 404 permit application addressing Wetland and Surface Disturbance impacts was submitted in August 2025 and deemed administratively complete. The BLM the NEPA public comment period closed on September 18, with the largest category of submissions being letters of support reflecting strong community and stakeholder backing for the project and the US Army Corps of Engineers section 404 public comment period ended on September 15th with no significant comments received at the state level, the Company has secured Class 1 and 2 air operating permits while water related applications continue to progress with the Nevada Division of Water Resources, the Water Pollution Control Permit and the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System Discharge permit applications have been submitted for review in the third quarter 2025. The BLM's Record of Decision the final permitting decision is targeted for the second quarter of 2026. Following this approval, on site construction on the South Road Railroad project would commence with first gold targeted for early 2028. We continue to engage with local, state, federal stakeholders to sustain momentum in the Permian process in the United States. Our project team continues to work with M3, our EPCM on the engineering for the project to be prepared for on site construction starting next year. We are planning on providing a project update in the weeks ahead which will include a feasibility study update on the South Railroad project. The feasibility study we will release and construct honors the plan of operations submitted initially in 2020, but is significantly more advanced to a construction ready project supported by detailed engineering, vendor pricing and refined execution planning to enhance the overall confidence in the project. Our team is gearing up for the successful development of the South Railroad project. Etienne Moran, our Chief Financial Officer, will now discuss the financial results for the quarter.
Etienne Moran - Chief Financial Officer - (00:10:03)
Thanks Andrew. Firstly I'd like to mention that the transition and integration activities at Musselwhite are nearly complete until now. I want to continue to rely on some Newmont's infrastructure, but this transition, data migration and integration efforts should all be completed at the end of November. It was a very collaborative approach and thank you to everyone involved as we reestablish a more decentralized model at Musselwhite following the closing of the acquisition. During the quarter we sold 79,000 ounces of gold at a realized price of $3,417 per ounce including the impact of the gold prepay which resulted in approximately $270 million in revenue for the quarter. As a reminder, we delivered just over 12,000 ounces towards the gold prepay at an average price of $2,912 per ounce which is captured in the total average realized price mentioned excluding the impact of the gold prepay or average realized price for the quarter was $3,508 per ounce, beating the average for the quarter. Consolidated cash, cash cost and non sustaining costs for the third quarter totaled twelve hundred and one thousand six hundred and forty one dollars per ounce of gold sold respectively. We recorded net income for the quarter $49.3 million or $0.15 per share and on an adjusted basis. Adjusted earnings were $73 million or 22 cents per share. Cash flow from operating activities before changes in non cash working capital was $113 million or $0.13 per share for the quarter. Exploration and project development costs during the third quarter were $39 million of which approximately 13 million was expensed and 26 million was capitalized. Our cash balance at September 30th was $327 million with total liquidity including the undrawn portion of our revolving credit facility of $357 million, positioning us well for future growth and capital allocation. Subsequent to quarter end we repaid $30 million towards a revolving facility bringing the balance outstanding at $90 million down from 120. With South Railroad construction about to begin, we intend to use our strong cash position to self fund that construction phase and continue to delever. With that being said, we frequently review our capital allocation strategy to ensure the right balance between investments for future growth such as the South Railroad project, continued investments in exploration for new discoveries and also considering return to shareholders I'd like to turn it back to Jason now. To give us a quick update on. Our recent site tour at Musselwhite that we hosted in October.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:13:00)
Thank you Etienne. In October we hosted our first site tour at Musselwhite Mine. It was a tremendous success that highlighted the mine's operation and the Muscle White team's expertise and teamwork and while we were only able to host a small number of participants, I'd like to provide a quick snapshot of what we discussed. Our tour showcased our growth for longer vision at Muscle White. This is our commitment to continued investment in Exploration and operational growth to expand production and extend the mine life for many years. We didn't just buy a mine, we invested in a future. And since closing the acquisition we launched an aggressive two year program designed to begin unlocking that potential. Our first priority has been to fully embrace the growth potential of this remarkable asset. We are committed to multi year exploration to test the mine trend extensions significantly expand our underground resources and ultimately identify new satellite deposits that will feed the operation for years to come. Also reinforcing team and culture. One of the most compelling things that drew us to Musselwhite was its people. Our job is to trust our team, support their needs and empower them to succeed. We are actively reinforcing the team and the culture at Muscle White. Since March we have recruited an additional 200 new team members to Muscle White to strengthen the operation and who are now embedded in making real contributions. It isn't just about incremental changes. It is about defining the next era of Musselblade. What do some of those changes look like? First, evaluating materials handling and improving mine productivity. Also purchasing newer lower emission fleet. Reducing ventilation demands constraints and improving the environment. Optimizing ventilation systems, minimizing dilution and more broadly establishing a decentralized structure that enables faster decision making right at the site level. The power to act is moving closer to the ore body. The growth objective is to fill the mill. The mill has always been underutilized at Musselwhite. So it is our objective to increase mining rates and leverage this untapped mill capacity for production and cost improvements. Expanding the resource is part of this objective which is supported by our aggressive exploration. It isn't just a list of tasks. It's a commitment to Muscle White's long term prosperity through strategic investment and most importantly through believing in the team. We are extremely proud of the work that is being done over these early months and stay tuned for exciting updates and developments. Our Senior Vice President Sylvain Garrard will provide you an update on our exploration programs. Notably the phenomenal first results from Musselwhite exploration that will feed this future vision.
Sylvain Garrard - Senior Vice President - (00:16:41)
Thank you Jason. We are very confident in the value and future of the Musselwhite operation and the outstanding exploration upside of the property. Our exploration strategy is clear. Aggressively grow our resource base to unlock opportunities that will significantly increase our annual production and extend our life of mine. In just eight months since the acquisition, our deep directional drilling program along the mine trend has delivered exceptional first results. Validating our investment thesis. This figure out some of these initial results Drilling has intersected high grade minimization 1.6 kilometer along strike from current operation including 4.1 meter at 15.1 gram per tonne goal with visible goal observed. Floral bowl geology continues another 400 meter pointing to strong potential to extend the mineralized corridor. The program began in late May with three rigs active. We have completed 8,000 meter of the plan 11,000 meter in 2025 with results reported from the first four holes of roughly 30 hole program in 2526. Each mother hole supports two drill sections spaced 200 and 400 meter apart moving to consistent 200 meter spacing in 2026 dollar holes will be testing 1.2 to 2 kilometer beyond current resources. Additional hole will be completed by year end with ASE results expected to be reported in early 2026. Overall, these early results confirm strong potential for resource growth supporting stronger production and a longer mine life at Musselwhite. Our on the ground exploration program has also delivered exciting high grade results in active mining areas like pq, Deep Links and Red Wings supporting our resources replacement and expansion effort. To illustrate the beauty and technical challenge of our efforts, the figure shows one of the three drill rigs across Lake Oppa successfully drilling all to the Minetran Extension 2km from the mine, an impressive technical achievement. Our near mine surface exploration is focused on testing multiple targets within 10 km of the mill as potential sources of medium term feed. Encouraging early stage shallow intercepts have been received from Ken Bay and Call Zmel. Building on significant historical drill results and evaluation to potentially advance both targets into resource categories are underway. In the third quarter alone our combined surface and underground drilling programs completed over 21,000 meters. Our near mine surface program was completed in October and will resume in winter once ground conditions at all. While our deep directional and underground programs will continue aggressively throughout the year, we are not just maintaining we are building for the future. In summary, we are executing a high impact exploration program that is already delivering impressive high grade results. Musselwhite is a cornerstone of our long term growth and we look forward to providing future updates as we continue to define this exciting potential. Our Camino ROFO on the ground exploration project continues to deliver. With the success of our initial infill program at zone 22, we expanded drilling by 5,000 meter to a total of 20,000 meter to continue upgrading and growing the resource. We expect this expanded program to be completed by end of this year. Our regional program also continues to test multiple targets and is on track for completion in the fourth quarter. In summary, we are advancing the underground project, expanding the high confidence drilling at zone 22 and systematically exploring our large land package for maximum value delivery at South Carolina Complex in Nevada. Our team has nearly completed the full 18,000 meter drill program with final assays and interpretation expected in near future. We are focused on growing and extending known resources and identifying new oxide gold mineralization both near our projected open pits and across our extensive highly prospective land position along the prolific Carlin trend where we see excellent upside potential. An exploration update for South Carolina Complex. Is expected to be released before year end.
Silvana Costa - Chief Sustainability Officer - (00:22:35)
Now I would like to introduce Silvana Costa, Chief Sustainability Officer to continue the presentation. Thank you Suzanne. Our commitment to environmental, social and governance performance is a cornerstone of our strategy and I'm proud to share key milestones from the third quarter across our sites. At South Railroad, the focus was on a comprehensive engagement program to ensure that key stakeholders had access to transparent and complete information about the project in advance of the public scoping period. Public comment events were hosted by the BLM during September and as we expected, the great majority of submissions demonstrated strong support for the project from a broad range of stakeholder groups. At Musselwhite we continue to foster strong relationships with communities and indigenous partners and to develop our talent pipeline. We successfully launched lead our signature leadership training program. During the quarter we trained 32 leaders across three workshops, investing over 500 hours into developing the MASA White Team's capabilities. On September 30, Orla observed orange shirt Day or National Day for Truth and Reconciliation. At Massa White, we held a ceremony at site to honor residential school survivors, their families and communities. Most recently, we announced the launch of a $6.6 million fund with our first nations partners dedicated to advance education, skills development and cultural revitalization for Indigenous youth and communities across northwestern Ontario. At Camino Rojo, we continue to advance social and environmental programs and concluded negotiations of a collective bargaining agreement. The third quarter marked the start of activities of the Water Biodiversity and Climate Project which we call PRO abc. This multi year, multi stakeholder project, in collaboration with a Mexican NGO in our host communities, is designed to go beyond the mine footprint to promote fauna and flora conservation, water stewardship and sustainable land based livelihoods in the region. As we implement PRO abc, activities so far have focused on improving practices in animal husbandry, new investments in apiculture, environmental education initiatives and ecological assessment work. Other milestones at Camino Rojo are the renewal of land occupation agreements with local communities and the successful negotiation of the collective bargaining agreement with the union, which was voted and approved on November 4th. These achievements demonstrate our commitment to responsible gold production and to work in partnership with our host communities, indigenous partners and union to build a sustainable and inclusive future for all of our stakeholders. The third quarter was also a critical time in our permitting timeline for Camino Rojo. We remain optimistic about the pending approval of a permit to expand the open pit and build an exploration drift in 2026. During the quarter, our team had the opportunity to meet with Mexican environmental authorities and respond to questions about our permit application. We have maintained positive engagement with state and federal level agencies in Mexico, often with the support of the Canadian Embassy. In September, Prime Minister Carney visited Mexico and met with President Shane Bound and discussed the role of Canadian mining companies operating in the country. That visit led to the development of a new Canada Mexico Action Plan which includes a commitment from both governments to work together in advancing responsible mining practices practices in Mexico. As part of this effort, Euler has joined other Canadian mining companies and committing to apply the Mining association of Canada towards sustainable mining protocols at our operations in Mexico. Then, at the end of October, Ola participated in a meeting in Toronto with Mexico's Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Alicia Barcena. Alongside other Canadian miners, Minister Barcena expressed her strong support for responsible mining, welcomed the New Canada Mining collaboration and reaffirmed her commitment to advance mining permit processes that have been delayed under the previous administration. These developments mark an important step forward in strengthening our partnership with Mexico and reinforcing orla's leadership in responsible mining. I'd like now to pass it back to Jason for his closing remarks.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:28:01)
Thank you Sylvana. Looking towards the remainder of 2025, we have several upcoming catalysts for Orla, notably a project update, including our feasibility on South Railroad as we move through the permitting process toward construction, an exploration update from our perspective South Carolin Complex in Nevada and continued exploration for the underground Deep Directional Drill program at Musselwhite to extend mineralization. This quarter was marked by operational resilience and significant advancements in our growth pipeline. Thank you to our teams in the countries where we operate whose commitment and delivery are driving this business forward. At this point I'd like to open the call to questions and hand the call back to the operator.
OPERATOR - (00:28:56)
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press Star one again. We'll go first to Cosmos Chu at cibc.
Cosmos Chu - Equity Analyst at CIBC - (00:29:15)
Great. Thanks Jason and Team. Maybe my first question is on Musselwhite. You know, thanks a lot for all the details. I'm Musselwhite and I was on site as well. But as you mentioned today, you started a new stope in a Red Wings area commission in September, which is great. My question is, you know, to confirm this is in the higher portions of the ore body, am I correct? If that's the case, that will help you in terms of increasing your throughput at the mill, in terms of, you know, filling your mill strategy. Just because I believe this is beyond some of the constraints you might have in the sort of the materials handling system. So maybe if you can touch on. That, that would be great.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:30:00)
Yeah. Thank you Cosmos for remembering our detail from the site visit. And Andrew Cormier can build on any answer that I provide. You're absolutely right. There's really two opportunities at Musselwhite, both of which we're working on. The first is these additional stopes in the upper part of the mine. Red Wings is an example, as you described, to get a more efficient feed to the mill, but still at reasonable grades, as you can see on the section that sold land provided. And then separately there's opportunities for the higher grade stoves, particularly at the end of this year in the deeper part of the mine. But recognizing that it takes a longer material handling process to get to surface. So with the combination of more material from the upper part of the mine and higher grade material from the bottom part of the mine, we feel confident in the near term increasing our production throughput from Musselwhite, which of course build for that long term future that I spoke about. And Jason, anything further? Andy, in terms of the difference in,
Cosmos Chu - Equity Analyst at CIBC - (00:31:07)
Go ahead, Cosmos. Could you maybe share with us in terms of what that might be in. Terms of the difference in grade?
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:31:15)
Yeah, the grade in the upper part of the mine. Yeah. Grade in the upper part of the mine is closer to 5, whereas the grade in the bottom part of the mine is, you know, six to seven or even higher. As. As we get deeper, the, the grade gets better in this deposit. As. As we get deeper. Andrew can provide some additional clarity if he has it on hand.
Andrew Cormier - Chief Operating Officer - (00:31:38)
Yeah, Hi Cosmos. Consistent with our strategy, the combination of having more tons available to feed the milk from the upper part of the mine closer to surface and maximizing increased tonnage and grade vis a vis the PQ deeps. The other component that's contributing to that is the equipment fleet. So the higher tier engines, the more efficient air consumption that they require, less emissions allows us to Run more equipment down there. So that's allowing us to access those higher grade stopes and contribute to the higher performance that we're seeing and expect to continue.
Cosmos Chu - Equity Analyst at CIBC - (00:32:18)
Great. Maybe switching gears a little bit at South Railroad. Great to see that. You know, from early November, I believe November 4th, you're now a fast 41 covered project. I think, you know, as Andrew has mentioned, it does provide some tools around the process. But I guess my question is I'm just trying to get more granularity on it in terms of what it means because I see that the timeline hasn't really changed. 2028 sort of start early 28, 2028 start of production. That hasn't really changed. So is it really just in terms of certainty in terms of the process? Could you maybe talk a little bit more about the significance of now being a fast 41 coverage project?
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:33:05)
Yes, certainly. Even under being part of the transparency process, you know, under this administration we have seen an acceleration in the permitting. With the NOI submission in August, mid August, we would have planned for and predicted about a 12 month process. That acceleration began with BLM moving that timeline up into the second quarter of next year. So before we became a covered project, I would offer that this administration was responsibly accelerating things. The benefits of the being a covered project offer us different access to different departments. And in particular the Department of Interior now has responsibility to inquire on the projects under this list to make sure that they're advancing, that there's no impediments. We have a very aggressive schedule which we're appreciative of from the blm. But we have to recognize that we have to bring along all the other satellite agencies and the cooperating agencies and they've done a great job of doing that. The oversight by the Department of Interior enabled by being a covered project will affect that. And so we now access, can access and will engage with the Department of Interior and all of the cooperating agencies to make sure that we're doing our part to make sure that we can meet our permitting timelines in terms of the production date. What I'd like to comment about that is, you know, I will protect Andrew and his team and their build construction schedule. We or a company that likes to deliver on our cost and timeline objectives. And it really all comes down to how quickly we can get started in the spring. The current timeline as published on the federal website shows towards the end of the second quarter final permitting record of decision. If that can be accelerated earlier into the spring, you know, there Is prospects for us to pull that first gold into the tail end of 27. But officially we are on the record saying that we will pour first gold early in 2028 and have effectively an almost full year of production. 2028. If things change with the permitting and things continue to get accelerated, as we've seen over the last six months, Then we'll update the market.
Cosmos Chu - Equity Analyst at CIBC - (00:35:40)
That's great. Maybe one last question that Camino Rojo in Mexico, I guess we've seen recently the granting of permits, not for Orla per se, but for some of your peers. Any kind of read through in terms of, you know, the permitting needed at Camino Rojo for the permanent pushback of the pit as Savannah, you know, kind of talked about, there's continual engagement with the Mexican authorities. And I believe there were some questions being asked and answered by the Mexican authorities. To the extent that you can, Jason, could you share with us some of the questions they might have?
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:36:25)
Sure. Before we get to the questions that they had, maybe what I'll offer to build on what Sylvana said, you know, there's engagement is important, but also delivery on the part of the Mexican government is equally important. And so now what we are having is in addition to the engagement directly with Solana and other Canadian mining companies, we're also seeing the delivery of permits and the one that you referred to as we're certainly aware of and would be a great example of them following through on their commitments that they made in Toronto. So I'm extremely confident in our permit being granted in the near future because of those engagements and because of that demonstrated effort on their behalf. I will acknowledge that they have a lot of permits in their backlog, but they're very aware of our permits and the importance of it. We do have production certainty into 2027, but we would like to have that permit not only for the expansion of the open pit, but the continuation of Camino Rojo underground, which needs to begin with an exploration drift, which could start as early as next year, subject to board approval. And finally, I think I heard a question there, Cosmo, about the kind of questions that they had around our permit application. There was really two categories of questions. One was around the expansion in our environmental mitigation practices that we would undertake flora, fauna, water and otherwise for that expansion. And the second category was around the context for the underground exploration drift, and in particular that it is an exploration drift which will certainly serve as a future production drift, but that we would subsequently be submitting a permit for. For a cil plant and underground mine to the Mexican federal authorities once we have sufficient data to do so. Part of that data is obtained from the work we do underground. Not only exploration drilling, but geotechnical information, hydrogeologic information and so on that you'll appreciate are necessary for a comprehensive permit submission, which we would make for the continuation of communal Camino Rojo from open pit to underground.
Cosmos Chu - Equity Analyst at CIBC - (00:38:54)
Great. Thanks Jason and team for answering all my questions. And congrats again on a very solid. Q3 and the positive free cash flow.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:39:03)
Thanks Cosmo.
OPERATOR - (00:39:06)
And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, press star one. We'll go next to Lauren McConnell at Paradigm Capital.
Lauren McConnell - Equity Analyst at Paradigm Capital - (00:39:14)
Hi Jason and team, thank you for taking my question. I just had a question a little bit on guidance and going into Q4, you obvious reaffirmed 2025 guidance and mentioned costs should ease in Q4. Can you elaborate a little bit more on how quickly all sustaining costs at Camino Rojo should normalize and whether Q4 should still be viewed as sort of a transitional quarter or is it going to be back to sort of city, state levels with that remediation?
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:39:41)
Yeah, I would offer that. Clearly Q3 there was an impact to the remediation work we were doing at Camino Rojo reflected in our all income sustaining cost. There will still be some work in that regard through Q4 as we do a higher level of strip than we had budgeted because we're back at the top, continue to reestablish that ramp and mine from the top down. So I think that some of that cost pressure could continue through Q4. The difference of course will be on the denominator in Mexico, in Canada. What I can offer is there will be some cost relief beginning towards the end of the year. By the end of this month, we should be fully extricated from the Newmont Systems and the TSA payments that we make. So we should also see some cost relief, but on an average over the quarter. Lauren, I would offer that those costs are trailing off, but we'll still have a certain impact on Q4.
Lauren McConnell - Equity Analyst at Paradigm Capital - (00:40:43)
Okay, perfect, that's helpful. And then just another question sort of around capital and your balance sheet. I mean obviously there was, you know, really strong free cash flow generated this quarter and I know you're probably within your budgeting processes right now for 2026 and obviously with the gold price, you know, hovering around 4100, how are you guys sort of thinking about capital allocation, you know, between debt reduction growth and shareholder returns, has that really changed with this gold Price environment in the last couple of months. Yeah, any color you could provide there.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:41:14)
Would be really helpful. Thanks Lauren. The answer is it has changed. The gold price requires, you know, different considerations to get through those three categories that you described. The market can expect us to continue to explore across our three properties in 2026 and frankly, you know, an approximately equivalent investment rate on exploration. The big project next year of course will be the development of South Railroad. We are planning for and have sufficient balance sheet to deliver that through 26 and 27. And in addition to that, because of the strong gold price and Ed Chan's and Andrew's management of the costs, we'll also be able to continue repaying debt probably on a more accelerated basis. Chan described two out of plan debt repayments that we made this year totaling $60 million. I can't telegraph what the payments will be next year. That will be decided upon gold price costs and growth requirements. But predictably we'll likely continue an accelerated delivering. And then finally it's important and is an active conversation currently with the current gold price and the health of our balance sheet to begin graduating to return additional returns to investors likely through a dividend. So that conversation is active and once the board approves any changes to our capital allocation strategy, we'll announce it to the market.
Lauren McConnell - Equity Analyst at Paradigm Capital - (00:43:00)
Perfect. Thank you guys so much. And that's it for me.
OPERATOR - (00:43:05)
We'll move next to Andrew McKitchick at BMO Capital Markets.
Andrew McKitchick - Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets - (00:43:13)
Thank you. Lots of great questions already asked. Just a quick one about railroad. Can you give us a little bit. Of a idea of what's going to be included in this project update for railroad and the feasibility will be folded into that. You know, it's been years since we saw the update and you know, even on today's call there is a highlight of, you know, a fairly material drill program is is there a resource update going into this is just simply updating.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:43:44)
Of the development plan. What should we expect? Yeah, Andrew, your question is a very important one so let me unpack that for you. The first thing I'll say is that the feasibility update, you know, needs to reflect the multiple years that have passed since the original update. So you can expect us to, you know, make sure that things are updated for $2025. But it needs to honor the original plan of operations that was outlined to the American government in 2020 and so it will honor that outline from 2020 and so on. The question of resources, although we have identified tremendous opportunity for additional oxide gold ounces in Nevada, this update will not Include material changes to the gold production plan Based upon the 2020 Plan of Operations which we're updating for cost. But there will be some considerable changes to the plan that we will construct and operate. Namely as we talked about for many years we intend to build a crushing system that will do two things. One, increase the recovery and produce more gold particularly important at these gold prices. But also de risk any concerns about the heat leach not performing as planned. So that's an important change. I'll also point out that that crushing system will be owner operated and will not be contract operated. Which builds on to the next point I'll make which is we have elected to move to an owner operated mining model as well. And so we'll provide that update. So in summary in the coming weeks we are going to provide a complete update on the self railroad project that is up to $2025 is a buildable project that we will execute over 26 and 27 will for the time being only include the original oxide ounces plan for Darkstar and pinion with increased recovery that I talked about with an absolute certainty of ability to add ounces to that that we've already discovered and get communicated to the market over several years. And then we'll outline the cost schedule of all that in our feasibility update. Keeping us true to the plan of operations and making sure that the permitting process is not disrupted. And we look forward to being in Nevada for many many decades.
Andrew McKitchick - Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets - (00:46:36)
Thank you. I'll pass the microphone to the next question.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:46:41)
Thanks Andrew.
OPERATOR - (00:46:44)
And that concludes our Q and A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Jason Simpson for closing remarks.
Jason Simpson - President and CEO - (00:46:51)
Thank you operator. Since there are no further questions, I would like to thank you for your time. Never hesitate to reach out to ORLA for questions. This quarter was marked by operational resilience and significant advancements in our growth pipeline. So thank you once again to the teams of the countries where we operate.
OPERATOR - (00:47:14)
And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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