Firefly Aerospace achieves $30.8 million in Q3 revenue, driven by $1.3 billion backlog and successful SciTech integration.

OPERATOR - (00:00:00)

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Michael Sheets - Director of Investor Relations - (00:00:33)

Thank you operator hello there, I'm Michael Sheets and welcome to Firefly's third Quarter Financial Results Call. I'm pleased to be joined on the call by CEO Jason Kim and CFO Darren Ma as we report for the period ending September 30, 2025. Today's call will include forward looking statements including but not limited to, statements the company will make about its future financial and operating performance, growth strategy and market outlook. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward looking statements. Factors that could cause the actual results and trends to differ materially are set forth in the annual and quarterly reports. Filed with the sec. Firefly assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements which speak only as of their respective dates. Also in this call we will discuss both GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP measures is included in the third quarter 2025 filing. Unless otherwise stated, financial information referred in this call will be non gaap. Our earnings press release, SEC filings and a replay of today's call can be found on our Investors relations website@investors.fireflyspace.com Now I'll turn the call over to Jason.

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:01:53)

Thank you Michael and Welcome to our third quarter 2025 earnings call. As yesterday was Veterans Day, I want to kick off today's call by thanking our country's service members for their dedication, courage and sacrifices in serving our nation, ensuring we remain the home of the free in the land of the brave. Firefly proudly employs many veterans like myself and we are honored to continue to serve as we work critical national security missions supporting our war fighters. Firefly is a space and defense company delivering innovative hardware and software to perform the hardest missions in space for national security, exploration and commercial technology. Built to keep America as the leader in space while inspiring the world, Our hardware is represented by four revenue generating our Small Lift Alpha Rocket, Medium Lift Eclipse Rocket, Blue Ghost Lunar Lander and Electra Satellite Orbiter. These hardware products have a robust backlog of $1.3 billion at the end of quarter three. Our software offerings come through our recent strategic acquisition of SciTech. These Capabilities include AI enabled defense software proven in operations including missile warning and defense intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, space domain awareness, remote sensing and analysis, and autonomous command and control to support diverse spacecraft missions. Firefly's product suite is strategically tailored to support the growing opportunities in space. Every day there are new industry tailwinds for the space artificial intelligence development, data center expansion and an intensifying focus on the strategic and economic benefits of the Moon. In addition, we have seen a major shift on defense funding and priorities supporting golden dome with $175 billion planned for the program over three years, we are positioned to meet the call from the Secretary of War in his Arsenal of Freedom address where he demanded commercial speed and scale similar to what we delivered on the US Space Force with the 24 hour turnaround Victus NOX launch as well as our landing on the Moon earlier this year at a fraction of the time and cost of previous missions. Before I get into our third quarter business updates, I will provide an update on the status of one of our multiple product lines. Alpha A few weeks ago, an event during a ground test firing at our facility in Texas led to the loss of the Alpha first stage booster that we were preparing for Flight 7. Following a thorough review, Firefly identified a process error during Stage one integration that resulted in a minute hydrocarbon contamination which then led to a combustion event in one of the engines. During the ground test, proper safety protocols were followed and all personnel were safe. The test stand structure remained fully intact and no other facilities were impacted. We immediately took action and implemented corrective measures, including a production stand down day. As this was not a design issue. Those corrections included increasing inspection requirements for the fluid systems, optimizing the first stage sensors, and incorporating additional automated aborts for testing. We also implemented key process improvements following the stand down day where the production integration and test teams conducted exercises to review and optimize existing procedures. As part of Firefly's effort to improve reliability and quality, the team will continue to hold regular exercises for sustained process enhancements. Flight 7 will now utilize the next Alpha first stage booster from our production line which is currently undergoing final preparations for shipment to our launch site in Vandenberg. Prior to the event, we had already tested the second stage and fairing and delivered them to the launch site as part of Firefly's test campaign ahead of each launch. The team will then conduct a Stata fire test at our launch pad prior to Flight 7 launch. Our Flight 7 launch is targeted between late fourth quarter to early first quarter depending on range availability. Firefly will have More details to share on the technology demo mission in the coming weeks and I have full confidence in our vehicle's design as well as our passionate and dedicated Alpha team to return to flight safely. Additionally, we're concurrently upgrading the Alpha stage test stand at our Briggs facility. These previously planned upgrades are expected to be complete in the next few months. Another key update since the end of the third quarter is that Firefly closed the acquisition of SaiTech in line with our strategic growth plan. SciTech is an exceptional company with more than four decades of operational excellence bringing game changing proven software applications and big data processing elements that bolster Firefly's proven hardware elements. As an analogy, Firefly builds the hardware smartphone such as our launch vehicles and spacecraft. SciTech develops the software apps such as Mission Autonomy, Targeting and Sensor Intelligence. Together we expand from hardware centric programs into long term software enabled revenue. SciTech has operational defense software applications and big data processing. Their infrastructure is state of the art with classified facilities in support of the Department of War intelligence community and commercial customers. Saitec is differentiated from other defense software companies through its industry leading multiphenology expertise that are closely linked with spacecraft and constellations. Together with saitec, Firefly will be able to provide the golden dome program with comprehensive end to end capabilities. There are three major elements of golden dome that we are pursuing. We can fly and deliver space based interceptors utilizing our Electra spacecraft, launch surrogate targets and hypersonic tests with our Alpha rocket as well as integrate data processing from a network of sensors to perform fire control with SCITEC ground processing. This closes the fire control loop with an integrated network of interceptors, essentially filling the missing link for the air and missile defense Shield for the US homeland. Firefly's workforce following the Scitec acquisition stands at over 1300 strong. Scitech's highly technical employees are made up largely of PhDs and software developers, 90% of whom have security clearances. Now, turning to our business updates in the third quarter we completed important program milestones across each of our revenue generating product lines. Let's start with spacecraft. As the only company to have successfully landed and completed a NASA Commercial Lunar Payload Services mission, we were honored to have the Agency award us with back to back contracts worth 177 million to fly Blue Ghost Mission 4 Targeting a 2029 launch, this mission will see Blue Ghost deliver five NASA payloads to the Moon's south pole. Supporting our annual lunar flight cadence on this mission, Blue Ghost will enable NASA to evaluate the Moon's south pole resources such as hydrogen and water as well as study the radiation and thermal environment. The Moon's south pole is a strategic priority for our nation as we anticipate a high density of resources that supports the growth of the lunar ecosystem. Another opportunity we are able to provide to our customers was collecting additional data above contractual requirements. During our first mission in September, NASA awarded us a $10 million contract addendum for Blue Ghost Mission 1 for the acquisition of additional lunar data collected. This stands as a historic lunar economic milestone as it represents the start of monetizing valuable data of the Moon to support more science and exploration, the understanding of the geographic features of the Moon's surface, and to support future human mobility, mining and infrastructure initiatives. Of note, we continue to pursue additional sales opportunities beyond NASA for our Blue Ghost Mission one lunar data. We're in discussions with multiple commercial and international organizations about how the information gathered by Blue Ghost Mission one can benefit future missions such as how we successfully landed and maintain operations through extreme temperature ranges on the Moon. The Blue Ghost Data Cell also serves as validation for our OCULA Commercial Imaging and Mapping service model. We are debuting with Our Blue Ghost Mission 2, hosted by an Electro orbiter. OCULA will continue to provide even higher resolution imagery, videos and multispectral phenomenology data that can support NASA, the commercial lunar industry, international entities and the US Space Force missions on and around the moon. Blue Ghost Mission 2, targeted to launch next year, is well underway. We built and fit checked the structural qualification models that will support our second mission as well as performed initial systems level qualification testing on site in Texas before delivering to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California where further testing is underway. This pioneering multi mission effort will land on the far side of the moon which will be a first for a US Lunar lander and then perform the NASA Lucy Night Science mission to sense radio frequency signals traveling over millions of years that could help unlock answers about our universe. In addition, our lander will Deploy the Rasheed Rover 2 for the United Arab Emirates Mohammed Bin Rashid Space Center. The full stack will also include an electric transfer vehicle that will deploy the lander as well as a European Space Agency Lunar Pathfinder satellite. We are excited about the nation, Congress and world's growing focus on the Moon. We anticipate the next NASA Administrator to further reinforce this leveraging transformative commercial technologies and increasing both the magnitude and frequency of high return on investment programs like like that of the Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program. Moving To Electra, our Mission 1 team conducted simulation testing in preparation for the spacecraft to ship out for launch. This rigorous testing campaign saw our team perform more than 200 hours of rehearsals simulating dozens of orbits around the Earth. Back in our Hive spacecraft, clean room assembly is underway of our Electro Mission 2 spacecraft which will support Blue Ghost Mission 2 as mentioned earlier, and Electra Mission 3 completed its preliminary design review maturing the vehicle's high maneuverability design as we prepare for the Defense Innovation Unit's high Priority National Security Space Domain Awareness demonstration mission in 2027 and reduced risk for future space domain awareness programs of record. In addition, our SciTech team can enhance the mission with its over four decades of classified data processing and mission operations experience. Additionally, Electra is increasingly supporting more NASA initiatives. We partnered with Advanced space to support NASA's Lunanet Communications Relay service. We're developing a mission framework that utilizes our Electra vehicle as a transfer stage for the relay network, similar to how we will use ELETRE on Blue Ghost missions. NASA also awarded an Electra study contract to demonstrate how to meet the need for multi spacecraft and multi orbit delivery to difficult to reach orbits beyond current launch service offerings, highlighting the multi mission capability of Letra. Shifting to the launch side of our business, we signed an IDIQ and task order for a hypersonic test mission on Alpha with a confidential customer. We're proud to have Alpha support these critical national security missions which further diversifies Alpha customer base and we look forward to sharing more information when possible. We also signed an agreement with Space Catan to study launching Alpha from the Hikkaido Spaceport in Japan in addition to work underway at our coming launch sites in Virginia and Sweden. This potential launch site in northern Japan offers strategic orbital access advantages and provides resiliency in launch pads and would allow us to tap into the large satellite industry in Asia while also supporting US allies in the region. Development of Eclipse, our medium lift reusable rocket, continued to progress in the third quarter. The build of all first flight Miranda engines is underway. The first Vera development engine which powers the upper stage of Eclipse has completed the majority of design reviews, clearing the way for manufacturing to begin build. We're on track to begin Vera hot fire testing in the first half of next year and we've begun final assembly of the launch site. Hold down release adapter ahead of a fit check with the first flight engine bay. I am so proud of our Fireflies and the Siteckers who are now part of our team. They achieved historical milestones, proven to deliver operational systems and continue to do the boldest missions in space and we are just getting started. We are focused on executing our strategic growth plan, fostering a culture of safety, quality, reliability and innovation. We are enhancing our products and with our dedicated and passionate Firefly team, we collaborate with our partners in achieving new category defining missions in space to help protect, connect and explore. With that business summary, I'll turn it over to Darren for a review of the third quarter financials.

Darren Ma - Chief Financial Officer - (00:16:45)

Thank you Jason and good afternoon everyone. In today's call, I'm going to review the scitec acquisition which recently closed, discuss our third quarter financial results and provide our revenue outlook for the remainder of 2025. I would like to thank the teams from both Firefly and SciTech for the incredible dedication and laser focus on completing this transaction in just a month after announcing the proposed deal. As we noted at the time of the transaction announcement on October 5th, the purchase price of approximately $855 million included a combination of $300 million in cash and 11.1 million shares of our common stock at $50 per share. Recently we upsized our revolving credit facility to $260 million from 125 million. For the cash portion, we used $40 million from our cash balances with the remaining amount coming from our recently upsized revolving credit facility. After careful analysis, we concluded increasing our revolver and minimizing cash usage was the most prudent way to maintain our fortress like balance sheet that we will leverage to drive our growth objectives. Before reviewing our third quarter performance, I want to reemphasize that operational metrics drive Firefly's financial performance. Key operational metrics include the number of launches and execution on program milestones across both our Spacecraft Solutions and Launch business. Specifically in our Spacecraft Solutions business which will include Saitek going forward, we recognize revenue as a percentage of completion under each contract. For the launch business, we focus on the number of launches. Revenue for our Operational Alpha vehicle is recognized at a point in time when the launch occurs. For Eclipse, while in development, we recognize revenue as a percentage of completion based on program milestones. As part of the Northrop Grumman Partnership, once the Eclipse vehicle is operational, we will recognize revenue as launches occur. Now Turning to our third quarter results, revenue was $30.8 million. This compares with 15.5 million in the second quarter and 22.4 million in the same quarter a year ago. Within our total revenue, spacecraft solutions was 21.4 million and launch was 9.4 million. The sequential increase was primarily driven by the Blue Ghost Mission 1 data sale to NASA progress on Blue Ghost Mission 2 development and the ramp of Electra Mission 3 for the Defense Innovation Unit, we ended the third quarter with a total backlog of approximately $1.3 billion. This was up from 1.1 billion at the end of the second quarter driven by the NASA CLPS contract award Jason referenced earlier. Backlog is one of the key metrics we monitor and is a leading indicator of our Future revenue performance. Third quarter gross margin was 27.6%. This compares with 25.7% in the prior quarter and 34.7% in the same quarter a year ago. GAAP operating expenses for the third quarter were $70.7 million compared with $58.3 million in the second quarter and $42 million in the same quarter a year ago. The changes were primarily driven by an increase in launch material expenses, costs associated with becoming a public company, and one time expenses including those related to the IPO and acquisition related transactions. For operating expenses, the primary differences between GAAP and non GAAP are stock based compensation expense and one time expenses. Non GAAP operating expenses for the third quarter were $61.3 million compared with $55.8 million in the second quarter and $39.7 million in the same quarter a year ago. The changes were driven by the same factors. As I noted in the GAAP operating expense comments, GAAP operating loss was $62.2 million compared with the loss of $54.4 million in the second quarter and a loss of $34.2 million in the third quarter a year ago. Non GAAP operating loss was $52.8 million compared with the loss of $51.8 million in the second quarter and a Loss of $31.9 million in the third quarter a year Ago. Our GAAP net loss in Q3 was $133.4 million. This compares with the loss of 63.8 million in the prior quarter and 40.8 million in the same quarter a year ago. The sequential difference was due primarily to a change in warrant liability and a payoff of an existing term loan following the IPO. Our non GAAP net loss in Q3 was $51.4 million. This compares with the loss of 57.1 million in the prior quarter and 38.2 million in the same quarter a year ago. GAAP basic and diluted net loss per share was a loss of $1.50 based on a weighted average share count of 93.8 million. Non GAAP basic and diluted net loss per share was a loss of $0.55 based on a weighted average share count of 93.8 million for some additional granularity on EPS and share count As a reminder, our IPO date was August 7th. If you took into account a full normalized quarter as a public company, assuming that the IPO and its related transactions, including the repayment of our term loan facility, occurred prior to the beginning of the third quarter, the basic undiluted non GAAP net loss per share would have been a loss of $0.33 based on a weighted average share count of 147.7 million. Adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter was negative $46.3 million compared with negative 47.9 million in the second quarter and negative 28 million in the third quarter a year ago. Turning to our balance sheet, as of September 30, our cash and cash equivalents and restricted cash was approximately $996 million. Firefly's fortified balance sheet positions us to scale our market leading products and fuel strategic growth in the years ahead. Capital Expenditures in the third quarter were $8.9 million compared with 9.2 million in the second quarter and 8.2 million in the third quarter of 2024. Free cash flow was negative $62 million compared with negative 37.3 million in the second quarter, negative 44.8 million in the third quarter of 2024. The increase in negative free cash flow is primarily driven by Blue Ghost mission launch prepayments and investments in Eclipse development. With the government shutdown, we are assessing what lingering impact that the closure will. Have on our financial results. During the closure there was a pause of many government programs that resulted in delays with some contract receivable, payment dates and customer milestone reviews. As of now, we don't have clarity when the government's normal operations will ramp and payments that were on hold will be made. Now moving to our outlook, we currently Expect full year 2025 Revenue will be in the range of 150 million to $158 million, which is an increase from the 133 million to $145 million range we previously provided. And for clarification with the SCITEC close date of October 31st and shares associated with the transaction, we expect our basic and diluted weighted average shares outstanding for Q4 to be between 155 million and 157 million shares. I would like to thank everyone for their interest in Firefly. I'll now turn the call back to Jason for his closing remarks.

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:25:15)

Thank you Darren. Since the end of the third quarter, Firefly has been pushing forward with additional progress on several items. Recently we took delivery of Rasheed Rover 2, which as noted earlier, is a payload we're flying on Blue Ghost Mission 2. The UAE MBRSC team has been a pleasure to work with and and payload delivery was very smooth. As a testament to their team's impeccable knowledge and dedication to space and the moon, we are honored to be supporting MBRSC further strengthening US relations with the UAE. Our Blue Ghost Mission 3 team completed the preliminary design review as the mission progresses towards its launch for NASA targeted for 2028. As a reminder, Blue Ghost Mission 3 will utilize Firefly's Blue Ghost lander, an electro orbiter and a rover from Blue Origin Honeybee to investigate the unique composition of the Gruithuisen Domes, a part of the moon that has never been explored before. Blue Ghost Mission 3 will deploy the rover and operate six NASA sponsored payloads for more than 14 days on the lunar surface. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that time. Named blue Ghost Mission 1 to its list of the best inventions of 2025 with Firefly spacecraft program director Ray Allensworth also named among the world's rising stars on the TIME 100 next list. The planets are aligned with the White House, Pentagon and NASA demanding speed and scale through transformational change. Leveraging commercial innovation and investments into technology and production systems, we're delivering on those demands. We've mapped our return to flight path for Alpha Flight 7, added Alpha Contracts via the hypersonic task order and are expanding our plans for multiple resilient launch sites. We are pursuing the $175 billion Golden Dome program on multiple fronts and are clearing operational milestones across our product lines. These are exciting times at Firefly as we execute our strategic growth plans and create new categories in space that support our customers and inspires the world. That concludes our prepared remarks. I'll turn it back over to Michael.

Michael Sheets - Director of Investor Relations - (00:27:47)

Thank you, Jason. Operator, we're ready to take questions.

OPERATOR - (00:27:51)

Thank you so much. And as a reminder to ask the question, press star 11 and wait for your name to be announced. To remove yourself, press star 11 again. One moment for our first question and it's from Sheila Cayaoglo with Jeffries. Please proceed.

Sheila Cayaoglo - Equity Analyst - (00:28:10)

Good afternoon, guys, and thank you. Maybe just on visibility into launch 7 timing now, how do you think about how that impacts 2026 alpha launches? Does that put pressure on the rest of the manifest or do we think about Launch 8? Still a good target. Timing.

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:28:37)

Yeah, Sheila, thank you for that question. This is Jason. So we're targeting in between late fourth quarter and beginning of early first quarter for our Flight 7 launch. We'll get a lot of, you know, post flight data from that. But, you know, we are still assessing 20, 26 and you know, our plans are we get a good flight up, get the post data and continue production. As you know, we have a production line going and so that's how we were able to take the next stage one booster and apply it to our flight seven. So we're just continuing to make progress on production.

Sheila Cayaoglo - Equity Analyst - (00:29:27)

Got it. And then maybe if I could ask on. I know it's only been a few days since you closed scitech, so how are you just thinking about the next quarter or going into year end, moving forward on the integration and the roadmap there and just potential revenue synergies.

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:29:43)

Yes, Sheila, the integration with SciTech is going very smoothly. We've done a lot of work with our finance and accounting and our human resources and IT and the list goes on and on, especially in engineering. One of the strategic values of the SciTech acquisition was it bolsters our national security pursuits, particularly the $175 billion Golden Dome program. And in addition, when we look at M and A, we're looking at strategic fit, we're looking at culture fit, financials as well, but also synergies. And in the engineering department, there are a lot of synergies with software. Our hardware is defined by the software that goes into it. And so SciTech best practices and software developers, especially the classified software developers, will help bolster our capabilities that we already build today. So there's a lot of synergies there. And in addition, SciTech has a lot of capabilities that they could leverage Firefly as well for their programs. In particular, there's a lot of, you know, Forge work that they're doing, a lot of command and control work that they're doing, a lot of autonomy that they're doing. And there's a lot of synergies with what we're doing with our Electra spacecraft in terms of space domain awareness, missile warning, missile tracking, and autonomy that we could synergize with SciTech.

Sheila Cayaoglo - Equity Analyst - (00:31:29)

Okay, thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:31:31)

Thank you. One moment for our next question. That comes from Seth Seifman with JP Morgan. Please proceed.

Seth Seifman - Equity Analyst - (00:31:40)

Thanks very much and good afternoon. Wanted to follow up on scitech. How should we think about the growth rate in that business versus the LTM revenue that you've reported? And then. Well, let's just start with that one and then follow up as well. Yeah.

Darren Ma - Chief Financial Officer - (00:32:06)

Hey, Seth, this is Darren. We haven't broken out SciTech separately. We've rolled it in and factored into our 2025 number. So I mean, when you look at 2026, you know, that's obviously dependent on a number of factors. Number of alpha launches we have. You know, we're making great progress on the Eclipse side while generating revenue on the development. And on the spacecraft side we've got, you know, Blue Ghost missions 2, 3 and 4 ramping all in parallel as well as Electra missions.

Seth Seifman - Equity Analyst - (00:32:38)

Okay, okay. And for. Okay. And so SciTech, not really much color at this point about how that. I think it was 160 something in the slides for the LTM revenue.

Darren Ma - Chief Financial Officer - (00:32:51)

Yeah, we've included obviously, I mean, right now there's some moving parts, but we've included in two months of that into our 2025 revenue guidance.

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:33:01)

Right, okay. And I guess when we think about just more conceptually about how this fits into the business SciTech can obviously provide. You talked about the analogy with the iPhone and the apps and having it go into your hardware. Is the intention for this to be something that's exclusively or very much having the resources dedicated to your hardware or to the extent that there's other hardware involved in Golden Dome that you would be pursuing the ability to have scitech apps or scitech involved in supporting the hardware that's made by others? Yes. This is Jason, thank you for that question. SciTech will be operated as a Firefly subsidiary and they'll operate under its current business model. So Jim Lazowski is the CEO of SciTech. He'll report into me directly. We did that deliberately so that SciTech can continue to provide their best in class capabilities for all their government customers, but also their commercial customers. There's a number of prime contractors that they support with both ground processing and software analytics, but in addition also onboard processing, edge processing as well with the algorithms. And so we want them to continue that growing business. But where there are synergies is we build our own spacecraft as well, our lunar landers and our Electro orbiters. And so we will be able to leverage their software developers and their best practices and their algorithms to put on board our spacecraft as well, in addition to who they already support. In addition, they also do a lot in ground command and control and ground processing. And that's something that today could help some of our programs that we have for national security, in that they can provide classified mission operations centers as well as classified processing. In terms of Golden Dome, what they add to our offering is, as you know, Firefly offers our alpha responsive launch capability to launch targets as well as hypersonic test vehicles. We also have our Electra spacecraft that can serve and is well positioned for the maneuverability requirements for a space based interceptor capability. But SciTech has the ground processing and fire control element that is also required by the Golden Dome program. And that's something that gives us, you know, multiple shots of the goal for Golden Dome. Excellent. Thanks. Thanks very much.

OPERATOR - (00:36:05)

Thank you. Our next question comes from Edison Yuk with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.

Edison Yuk - Equity Analyst - (00:36:13)

Hey, thank you for taking our questions. Wanted to ask about the international opportunity you cited, the Alpha partnership and in Japan, what kind of volume do you think of launches is maybe up for grabs outside the US? The short answer is we want to continue building on the relationship with Japan and others in that region. As we build up relationships, we'll give more firm numbers in terms of total available market. But what I would say is in the past I've heard that Japan has $6 billion for applying to space. So that's a very large market. And they are also looking at their own space force that they stood up in the past couple years. And so we envision that they'll need the same things that the US and other allies will need. Things like responsive launch, things like, you know, scitech ground processing and software. Also things like Constellation launch with Eclipse and furthermore orbiters such as Eletre. We're working with not only Japan, but the European Space Agency. We've been in discussions with the UAE as mentioned before, mbrsc. So it goes beyond just Alpha launches. It includes all of our product lines and the success and progress we've had with expansion into other launch sites. That gives us more resiliency of launch and more opportunities to have launch cadence. Launching from more destinations such as Wallops and Sweden gives us a lot of good experience to support this study with Space catan. Understood. And then separate topic, I want to follow up on the SciTech question earlier. Can you disclose any sort of maybe backlog numbers or pipeline numbers around that business? And, and I don't know, not trying to give out a growth rate, but you would expect this to grow, right, going forward in the next couple years?

Darren Ma - Chief Financial Officer - (00:38:44)

Yeah, absolutely, Edison. So I give you a little bit more color there in terms of Scitec. Scitech backlog is roughly $170 million. So that'll be added to the $1.3 billion that we exited Q3 with.

Edison Yuk - Equity Analyst - (00:39:06)

Great, thank you.

OPERATOR - (00:39:09)

Thank you so much. And as a reminder, if you do have a question, simply press Star one one to get in the queue. Our next question is from Christine Ligwog with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Christine Ligwog - Equity Analyst - (00:39:23)

Hey, good afternoon everyone. I just wanted to follow up regarding SciTech on the guidance you guys highlighted. Last 12 months revenue for scitec is 164 million. So if we kind of look at that on a monthly basis, that implies $14 million of revenue per month. And it looks like you're going to own this thing for about two months. So presumably that's $28 million of potential SciTech revenue in 2025. But you only raised the midpoint of your guidance by 15 million. Can you talk us through what the moving pieces here are of the changes?

Darren Ma - Chief Financial Officer - (00:40:03)

Yeah, Christine, so just give you a little bit more color there. Yeah, it includes our guide includes the two months of scitech. Not all the scitech revenue is all linear, so that's one part of it. There's some, obviously some moving pieces there. We've also included in our revenue guide and the updated alpha schedule as well. So it includes again the two month of SciTech and our updated alpha schedule. So that at that point we've raised our guide to where it is the 150 to 158 million.

Christine Ligwog - Equity Analyst - (00:40:37)

Great, super helpful. And then also just looking back regarding your launch success, the Launch 6 was a failure and then this most recent ground testing, the anomalous event also was a failure. So when you look at the repeatability of your capability, can you walk us through what you're changing in your operational structure to make sure that the subsequent launches here would be successful? Are there changes that you're implementing and how should we think about your path towards a repeatable successful launch?

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:41:17)

Yeah, thank you for that question. Following the test event, we immediately took action and implemented corrective actions which I mentioned before, includes increasing the inspection requirements for the fluid systems, optimizing some first stage sensors and also incorporating additional automated aborts. We also had a day long quality stand down with production integration and test teams where we implemented key process improvements. We conducted a number of exercises to review and optimize our existing procedures and we're going to continue to enhance our reliability and quality culture. The team is going to continue to hold regular exercises for these sustained process enhancements. I will say that safety and quality has been a major focus for me this past year at Firefly. After the test event, the team immediately started the root cause analysis and when initial findings showed the process errors, that's when I immediately requested a full stand down of stand down production integration and quality. Test team stand down day required all the executive leaders also to attend and this was our moment to utilize industry best practices and reset Refocus and return us to flight.

Christine Ligwog - Equity Analyst - (00:42:47)

And do these events with Alpha change the timeline with eclipse at all?

Jason Kim - Chief Executive Officer - (00:42:54)

The short answer is no. We have different flows for eclipse in terms of the test stands, both the structural testing and the engine testing. There are some subject matter experts we have at the company that are supporting Alpha, but that's for a limited period of time. We are also staffing up on the eclipse program per our program plan. And so you know, this should not, Alpha should not affect our eclipse production. I will also say that one of the benefits of our common commonality in our product lines is that every time we reduce risk or learn best practices on any one of our product lines, it also benefits the other programs in terms of carbon composites and tap off cycle engines and test procedures as well.

Christine Ligwog - Equity Analyst - (00:43:54)

Thank you very much.

OPERATOR - (00:43:58)

Our next question is from with Ross Capital. Please proceed.

Suji - (00:44:04)

Hi Jason. Darren, my first question is on Golden Dome. Can you please go through some of the details of how Firefly, perhaps with SciTech, would have opportunity here so we can kind of think about what may be coming as that program starts to have offerings. Thanks, Suji. This is Jason. I think the planets align, as I mentioned in the call the White House, the Pentagon, they have strong initiatives for reform, for speed and scale and affordability. You've heard that on the Golden Dome program under General Gutline. You've also heard it from Secretary of War Hegseth and others. You know, it's things like the first and only 24 hour Space Force Victis Nox mission that they want more of. And we have more of those kind of missions come in as well. You know, they want more OTAs, more CSOs. They want to look at commercial technology first as a default. And so they're very focused on interoperability, speed, scale, strengthening competition in the industrial base. With that, you know, we, we've been in communications with the Golden Dome customers in terms of, you know, Alpha rockets, like I mentioned before, to support test targets for the space based interceptors. Also hypersonic test as well, because there's a rich backlog of hypersonic test technology that needs to get burned down. So Alpha provides a commercially available capability to launch up to 1 ton into orbit in 2 tons of suborbital regimes. It's also something that if you look at Golden Dome, it's got multiple lines of effort. At least this first tranche of space based interceptors, there's at least five lines of effort. Three are space based and two are ground based. And with the acquisition of Saitek, we're Able to go after not only the rocket part of Golden Dome, but also the space based interceptor part of Goldman Dome. With our electric vehicle partnered up with Saitech for some of the discriminating algorithms. And then the ground piece, which includes the fire control system and the ground control element. That's something that Saitech does for a living. As you know, they are the prime contractor and software developer for the apps and the hardware portion of Forge for the Space Force. And if you remember what Forge does, it takes in all the sensor data with high volume at rate from low earth orbit, medium earth orbit, geosynchronous orbit, polar orbit, SBIRS and next generation OPIR systems, takes all that data at rate and then processes it into decision quality information that the war fighters can use to go and protect our nation. So it's that type of ground processing and software analytics that can be brought to bear to Golden Dome just like other national security ground systems that the Space Development Agency has and the Space Force has. Okay, Jason, appreciate all that detail. And then thinking about scitec and the synergies, I know it sounds like it's a very, you know, it feels like it's a very terrestrial sort of value proposition for scitec, but could it possibly enhance what you may be planning with Ocula and being able to extract analytics and information from lunar observation in the future as well? You're spot on, Suzie. You know, anywhere that you could take sense optical information, infrared information, even radio frequency information, whether it's around the Earth or interplanetary or even the moon and Mars. SciTech has the capabilities with their 40 years of algorithm development and continuous tech refresh of those algorithms and apply it almost from a library like Lego pieces and mix and match it to apply to different missions such as Ocula. Ocula is going to debut next. We're targeting late next year 2026 to launch our Blue Ghost 2 mission. And on that Blue Ghost 2 mission there will be electro transfer vehicle that will orbit the moon for five years and it'll do the first commercial imaging and mapping of the lunar surface. It'll also be tasked to do space domain awareness in cislunar space. And so all Those algorithms that SciTech provide today for missile warning, missile tracking and ISR and space domain awareness around the Earth can also be applied to the moon as well. Okay, thanks Jason.

OPERATOR - (00:49:28)

Thank you. And this concludes our Q and A session. I will turn it back to management for final comments.

Michael Sheets - Director of Investor Relations - (00:49:37)

This is Michael. Thank you so much for joining today's call and we look forward to talking to you next time in our fourth quarter financial results. Have a good day.

OPERATOR - (00:49:46)

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our Q and A session. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.