Sonida Senior Living accelerates growth with $1.8 billion merger, achieving record occupancy and strong NOI growth in Q3 2025.
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Summary
- Sonida Senior Living announced a merger agreement to acquire C and L Healthcare Properties for $1.8 billion, expected to close in early 2026, which is projected to enhance growth and shareholder value.
- The company's third-quarter financial performance showed a 21% year-over-year growth in total portfolio NOI and a 30% improvement in adjusted EBITDA, driven by occupancy and rate increases.
- Management emphasized strategic focus on improving NOI in underperforming communities, expanding margin through labor management, and leveraging new technology platforms for enhanced operations.
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OPERATOR - (00:01:16)
Sam, thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Sonida Senior Living third Quarter Earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the Speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press STAR one again. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Jason Finkelstein, Investor Relations.
Jason Finkelstein - Investor Relations - (00:02:36)
Thank you Operator all statements made today, November 10, 2025 which are not historical facts may be deemed to be forward looking statements within the meaning of federal SECurities laws. The Company expressly disclaims any obligation to update these statements in the future. Actual results or performance may differ materially from forward looking statements. Certain factors that can cause actual results to differences are detailed in the earnings release that the Company issued earlier today, as well as in the reports that the Company files with the SEC, including the risk factors contained in the Annual report on Form 10K and quarterly report on Form 10Q. Please see today's press release for the full safe harbor statement, which may be found in the 8-K filing from this morning or at the Company's Investor Relations page page. Found that investors that's sonidaseniorliving.com in addition, as it relates to any discussions today regarding the proposed transaction announced on November 5, 2025, we have made and will continue to make important filings with the SEC in connection with the proposed transaction, including a registration statement on Form S4 and the related Joint Proxy Statement Prospectus be filed with the SEC in connection with the proposed transaction. Today's call is not intended to be and is not a substitute for those filings. We urge you to read those materials carefully when they become available before making any voting or investment decisions. Please also note that during this call, the Company will present non-GAAP financial measures for reconciliations of these non-GAAP measuress to the most comparable GAAP measures. Please see today's earnings release if you'd like to follow along during today's call, you can find Sunita's third quarter 2025 earnings presentation in the Investor Relations page SECtion of the Company's website. In addition, we have included supplemental earnings information within our presentation consistent with prior quarter releases. I would now like to turn the call over to Sonida's President and CEO Brandon Rebar.
Brandon Rebar - President and CEO - (00:04:43)
Thanks Jason. Good morning and thank you for joining us on our third quarter earnings call. Last week we announced a significant step in the Sonida journey with the signing of a merger agreement to acquire C&L Healthcare Properties or CHP for total consideration of $1.8 billion. The transaction, which is scheduled to close in late Q1 or early Q2 of 2026, accelerates the company's growth profile and should deliver significant value to Sonida's current and future shareholders. The structure of the transaction achieves four simple but highly impactful objectives. First, it is accretive to the quality and age of our real estate with an average age below public peers and our existing portfolio. Second, the transaction is significantly accretive to AFFO per share through structural and operational synergies while at the same time it materially reduces leverage with a clear path to achieving our target of six times leverage. And finally, the additional liquidity generated through the issuance of shares to CHP's current retail shareholder base will immediately increase the free float of the stock to approximately $1 billion following closing of the transaction. The addition of high quality real estate located in strong growth markets further enhances the near and long term earnings power of the portfolio and creates additional flexibility for portfolio optimization as we look to recycle out of select lower growth assets into higher return acquisitions. For reference, we have acquired 23 assets over the last 18 months. Once we close and integrate the CHP portfolio, we hope to return to this pace of acquisitive growth. The company's free cash flow generation post transaction provides significant capital for accretive reinvestment in both internal ROI projects and and and bolt on acquisitions. Additionally, the commitment of a new upsized $300 million revolver at close of the transaction will further increase our available capital to capitalize on our robust investment pipeline in the second half of 2026. Switching now to our third quarter results, our portfolio top line continued to deliver sequential growth and year over year improvement driven by both occupancy and rate highlighted by an accelerated recovery in our acquisition communities. Total Portfolio NOI grew 21% year over year including the NOI drag, from communities opened or acquired in 2025. Adjusted EBITDA improved more than 30% on the strength of our acquired communities, same store NOI growth and the effective management of our G&A same store occupancy increased 90 basis points in sequential quarters to 87.7% and finished October with an average of 88%. A portfolio high point. Our 19 communities acquired in 2024 performed exceptionally well with a sequential improvement of 370 basis points from Q2 to Q3. Our operating team will place added emphasis in two specific areas as we close the the consistent delivery of excellent clinical care and services to support the health and well being of our residents and a laser focus on NOI flow-through with a strong occupancy base. Additionally, managing outlier community performance in the same store portfolio remains a key focus and has limited the headline same store NOI growth numbers in Q2 and Q3. As Kevin will further detail, our goal is to continually assess the long term earnings potential of each community and implement required operational changes further invest to drive higher performance or monetize those non strategic or low growth assets. Kevin will elaborate further on the details of the results, but I want to touch on a few important elements of the operating plan moving forward. For the month of October, we hit a record high occupancy for our same store portfolio of 88%. Additionally, our overall rate profile of the business remains strong and labor trends have moved in line with expectations after the completion of our regional restructuring and scheduling system overhaul which heightened labor volatility in July and early August. Labor metrics in the early stages of the fourth quarter remain steady in terms of hours of labor per resident day and total wages. We are moving in a positive direction on the labor front and the continued emphasis on the use of technology to staff our communities based on the daily service and clinical needs of our residents will be key to achieving margin expansion as occupancy levels approach 90%. The phased rollout of our new clinical system supporting a robust electronic health record system in our assisted living and memory care apartments was completed at the end of the third quarter in conjunction with the full implementation of additional scheduling technology and staffing data generated through our nurse call system. Our operations team will now have a consistent view of staffing trends and variability in each of our communities. A strong technology platform coupled with more robust labor management processes and oversight provide our local leadership the tools to manage their workforce efficiently while delivering excellent care and services to our residents. Fundamental to our acquisition strategy is the ability to enhance resident care while optimizing the labor cost model. As communities deliver occupancy growth, our acquisitions continue to shine with another strong quarter of growth on both the top line and net operating income specific to the acquisitions completed in 2024. We view November 2024 as the baseline month given all 19 communities had been transitioned into the portfolio over the last 12 months. Average occupancy has increased from 76.3% to 83.7% and resident rates have increased 4.2% over the same period. These acquisition communities reached a high point in both occupancy and NOI in Q3 and trends in October remain strong given the scale of the CHP transaction. Sonida's track record of successfully integrating communities into our operating platform, minimizing the period of initial disruption and improving performance trends gives us confidence in our team's ability to execute this more complex and scaled transaction. On the whole, our acquisitions continue to achieve or exceed our underwriting and the pace of recovery has accelerated in less than the 18 to 24 month timeline previously indicated in our comments. The combined NOI of the acquisitions completed in 2024 represents a greater than 10% yield on total acquisition cost with additional upside remaining in all key operating metrics. These operating results and the continued growth of our platform, including the CHP transaction, depend on the strength and capabilities of our local and regional leadership. We are proud of the compassion and commitment to results delivered every day and in our Sonida communities. We are also intensely focused on retaining, developing and recruiting new talent as we grow. Employee turnover and leadership turnover within our communities continues to trend favorably. I am confident these retention levels are a result of the investments we have made in wages, benefits and the positive and supportive culture at Sonida. Recruiting additional talent to successfully scale the business and execute our growth plan will be imperative and based on the elevated external interest in career opportunities within Sonida, I'm confident we will continue to attract top notch talent with a commitment to providing high quality care and services to our residents. I'll now turn the call over to Kevin for detailed discussion of our Q3 financial performance.
Kevin - (00:12:20)
Thanks, Brandon. I'll begin my comments with an overview on the work our teams have completed in recent months to support the NOI ramp-up of our acquisitions as well as identify outlier performance opportunities in our same store portfolio. The availability of more robust technology related to labor has allowed for increased visibility in communities where costs have not flexed with the pace of occupancy growth or where premium labor has weighed down margin expansion. Our finance, clinical and HR teams, including a newly appointed CHRO, are working collectively with operational leadership to ensure community staffing aligns with the needs of our residents. Our team has also redirected additional resources to assist our operators to ramp margin while maintaining the high level of care and service consistent with the Sunita culture. In the past few months, we have seen significant progress in overall labor management. I'll now walk through a few key Pages in our Q3 investor deck posted this morning starting on slide 17 with the same store comparisons of sequential and year over year quarters. We are happy to report occupancy of 87.7% for Q3, which is our highest quarter post Covid. This represents an increase of nearly a full point over the previous quarter's occupancy of 86.8%. Revisiting some of the organizational changes this summer, the shift of G&A dollars towards our marketing team has created a more consistent and wider sales funnel that has supported this growth. This shift, combined with a dedicated focus on generating internal sales leads, has moved reliance on outside placements from 43% to 26% year over year. This momentum in occupancy carried into Q4 with a spot occupancy of 89.0% as of October 31st. And finally, the portfolio continued its strong rate trajectory with a year over year rev core increase of 4.7% more on the same store NOI. Further in the presentation, moving ahead to. Our acquisition portfolio performance on Slide 18, note that these figures include the results from our 20 community acquisitions from 2024, including the at share results of our 2 joint venture investments and the December 31, 2024 acquisition of our North Bend Crossing Vista community that that opened in July, as Well as our three recent 2025 community acquisitions. In consecutive quarters, occupancy increased 180 basis points, leading to an increase in annualized revenues of $10 million. For the same period, our acquisition portfolio NOI increased by $900,000 or 22% on a sequential quarter basis. When removing the combined NOI loss from the recently opened North Bend Crossing Vista acquisition and the September Mansfield acquisition, this increase jumps to $1.1 million or 28%. Expanding more on the acquisition portfolio performance. We've now owned our 2024 acquisitions for roughly a year. As a reminder, more than half of these communities were distressed at the time of purchase. As Brandon mentioned earlier, these communities have grown occupancy by 740 basis points since November 2024. This occupancy expansion coupled with a strong operating expense flex over that same one year period has resulted in a 10% yield on cost. As seen on slide 28, this 12 month achievement has exceeded our initial expectation of 18 to 24 months and is driving our belief that there is significant remaining upside in this portfolio through full occupancy stabilization and ongoing rate growth. Moving to Total Portfolio highlights on slide 19, the company grew its year over year total portfolio NOI at share by 20% or $14 million on an annualized basis. Note that the overall year over year occupancy and margin percentage for the total portfolio at share is unfavorably impacted due to the acquisitions coming in at lower starting average occupancy and margin levels. Over to slide 20 where we will review the same store occupancy in more depth. On last quarter's call, we touched on the historically high levels of deaths that impacted our occupancy. Despite our progress on absolute move ins this quarter, I'm pleased to report that we have continued our same store movement acceleration with move outs due to deaths retreating back to normal operating levels. This net Trend provided for the 90 basis point increase in occupancy from the second quarter with continued momentum heading into the last quarter of the year, including a solid net gain of 30 basis points of occupancy for October. Moving ahead to the rate discussion on Slide 21 as a reminder, on a same store basis, the average annual rent renewal rate on March 1 was 6.9%, which was applicable to 71% of the total same store residents. Comparing the rate profile to Q3 2024, the company continues to drive private pay increases with a near 5% increase across quarters over the past year. The Company has invested in its on site clinical resources and clinical technology platforms, both contributing to an increase in level of care fees by 14% year over year. Additionally, the migration away from premium and contract labor to more permanent upskilled clinical functions further support the overall resident experience. Diving into margin drivers and NOI more broadly, we we will move ahead to Slide 22 to discuss same store operating expense trends as a percentage of revenue. Total labor, excluding benefits increased 70 basis points from the previous quarter. This was driven by a rapid spike in occupancy in several communities during the front part of the quarter where labor was not flexed timely and appropriately. Using our proprietary labor tools, we identified the drivers of the labor misses and implemented more stringent labor controls and close monitoring oversight from our corporate support center. Because of this, the trending of labor in the back half of the quarter improved with hours relative to occupancy decreasing 2.5%, or approximately $500,000 on an annualized basis. We expect this trend to continue to the fourth quarter based on preliminary results for October. On the non labor expense front, absolute cost increased $600,000 from Q2 to 2025 to Q3 2025, half of which is attributed to one extra expense day in the quarter. The remaining half was attributed to increases in utilities, primarily electricity, due to a prolonged summer in Texas and our southern states. Speaking to the company's overall same store margin profile in more depth, 50% of our communities grew year to date NOI by 10% or more as compared to 2024. The bottom cohort of underperforming communities is almost directly correlated to the Texas communities that were part of the organizational restructure this summer, which were impacted primarily from weaker sales resources that we're addressing through our enhanced marketing platform. The remaining communities are ones that the Company expects to evaluate for potential pruning out of its core portfolio, Closing out the P and L for this quarter's earnings. Our G and A continues to show stabilization following 2024's one time build out of our business development and operational excellence functions to support overall growth initiatives. G and A levels for the year remained slightly below normalized run rate Q4 levels due to a slight reduction in total FTEs over those periods as well as focused spending controls tied into our revised operating cadence implemented in the second half of 2024. All three of 2025 community acquisitions were onboarded without adding FTEs at the above community level. Moving to the balance sheet on slide 23 as mentioned in last quarter's earnings, we successfully closed on a restated finance agreement with Ally bank that provides for an additional five years of term which includes two one year extensions and a variable interest rate of SOFR plus 265 with a step down to SOFR plus 245 subject to achievement of certain performance thresholds. The initial proceeds of $122 million were used to pay off the current Ally term loan of $113 million, with the remaining borrowings collateralizing the additional Alpharetta Community acquired in June. The revised Ally Term loan provides for an additional $15 million in delayed draws as certain financial covenants are attained. With the December 2024amendment of our Fannie Loans and the restated Ally term loan, approximately 80% of our debt has an effective maturity date of early 2029 or later, with our credit facility representing 11% and expiring in mid-2027. Our total debt at share is comprised of 57% fixed rate debt with the inclusion of the credit facility. The weighted average interest rate is 5.5% for the portfolio with a variable rate debt nearly fully hedged. Currently, the company has $64 million of capacity remaining under its facility with approximately $41 million immediately available at the end of the third quarter. The company continues to expand its availability as the underlying borrowing base assets securing the facility continue to expand their NOI profile each quarter. Finally, as of today, the Company is in compliance and with all financial covenants required under its mortgages and credit facility back to you, Brandon.
Brandon Rebar - President and CEO - (00:21:58)
Thanks Kevin. As we close out the year, our team remains dedicated to achieving results on two primary fronts. The operations team continues to focus entirely on the in place portfolio with specific emphasis on improving performance at communities with weak or negative year over year. NOI growth. Our M and A and operational excellence teams will work hand in hand with senior leadership to continue building our integration plans while engaging in strategic discussions with CHPs current operators to identify a clear path forward. Post closing. We are extremely excited about the opportunity ahead and thankful for the consistent support from our investors. The announcement last week generated incredible excitement and interest both inside and outside of Sunita and our team remains fully dedicated to the successful execution of organic and inorganic growth objectives. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, Please open the line for any questions.
OPERATOR - (00:22:58)
At this time. I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press Star then the number one on your telephone keypad and your first question comes from the line of Ronald Camden with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Derek Metzler - (00:23:13)
Hi, this is Derek Metzler on for run. Thanks for the question and congrats on the merger announcement. Before we get into that, thank you Derek. Thank you. Great. Just maybe before we get into the merger, just touch on operations in the quarter quickly. I guess one of our questions was about the same store occupancy trend which is just growing below the industry average I guess of about 200 basis points year over year. So maybe just touch a little more on the move in move out trends you saw during the quarter and what might be impacting that and kind of what you're seeing going forward.
Brandon Rebar - President and CEO - (00:23:52)
Certainly. Yeah, I'd say that specifically in the back half of the quarter and then here in the early part of Q4, we've been pleased with the accelerated same store occupancy improvement up to that kind of 89% spot level and 88% in October. So while earlier in the summer our numbers might have been a little bit kind of below peers, we have seen good movement and I'd say that it's been driven by a handful of communities that were kind of trailing or lagging in terms of their performance in the portfolio and move in trends have picked up significantly. I think the other piece that's really important that Kevin referenced was the move ins are coming from non paid referral sources. And so as we've seen the combination of a reduction in move out through death and then an increase in move ins that we're generating through our own internal mechanisms that ultimately is helpful from just an overall margin and growth perspective. You know as we look to continue that in Q4. So I'd say that, you know, we're pleased to be, you know, knocking on the doorstep of 90%. But we know that continued growth and then also margin flow through our absolute areas of emphasis for us here as we close the year.
Derek Metzler - (00:25:11)
Great, that's helpful. And then I guess just as you're preparing for the merger, clearly there was an expense related to that and the transaction costs this quarter, about 6.2 million. I guess as your as we go through the next couple of quarters before the merger closes, is that kind of a recurring cost that we can expect or was there anything else in that number we should think about and just anything else kind of going into the merger preparation?
Kevin - (00:25:42)
Yeah. So the total transaction costs were 75 million that were in the merger deck that we released. So obviously that's a fluid number, but that's what we've pegged right now. And 6 million of that goes towards that 75 million. So we should continue to see each month and then with the end of the quarter, the end of the year and into next year those transactions costs being incurred as part of the cost to do the deal.
Derek Metzler - (00:26:09)
Great. Thank you very much.
Brandon Rebar - President and CEO - (00:26:14)
Thank you.
OPERATOR - (00:26:17)
Your next question comes from the line of Ben Hendricks with rbc. Please go ahead.
Ben Hendricks - (00:26:23)
Hey, thanks guys. Congratulations again on the acquisition. I appreciate the color. Also on kind of the same store labor cost that were related to some of the occupancy ramp early in the quarter and just wanted to get your thoughts on kind of how you see Revpor vs Export trending over kind of the longer term on a run rate basis. And if we expect that spread to be a little bit compressed in the near term due to some of the investments you're talking about specifically into labor management, just any indication about how you're seeing long term revpor versus export. Thanks.
Brandon Rebar - President and CEO - (00:27:05)
Thanks so much, Ben. Yeah, I'd say that on the revpor front, you know, we recognize that at the higher occupancy levels, you know, on a portfolio wide and then also with the, you know, the specific acquisitions we brought on board and the same store being up close to 90, that continuing to push rate consistent with what we've achieved, you know, and even, you know, really consistent with what we achieved in prior years, but with opportunity to expand in certain communities as well in 2026 and beyond. So we recognize that rate is super key, especially on the same store side to expanding the margins up to, you know, where we believe we can get to in that 30 plus percent range. And then on the labor front. We've kind of seen the trends that hit us in July and August start to really kind of come back in line. But we know there's more upside and work to do on that front, and that's where our entire leadership team is continuing to spend a fair amount of time. So we feel like the relationship being able to expand margin based on the export rev4 relationship in 2026 is how margin expansion will really be able to be achieved.
Ben Hendricks - (00:28:26)
Great, thanks. And on the acquired portfolio, including the new acquisition, how is agency labor or contract labor kind of trending versus or where does that stand kind of versus your targets? And how much opportunity can we expect on the labor front getting that back down to normal levels?
Kevin - (00:28:48)
So we have hardly any contract labor to speak of in the acquisition portfolio or the whole full company as a total. Where we're seeing the initial challenges from the first year that we think we've largely pushed past on the acquisition portfolio is the premium labor with respect to overtime and getting permanent employees and associates that are communities. But now we're seeing that. So I think that's creating a little bit of the NOI boost that you saw quarter to quarter going back to Q2.
Ben Hendricks - (00:29:22)
Great. Thanks guys. Appreciate the color.
Kevin - (00:29:27)
Thanks, Ben.
OPERATOR - (00:29:29)
There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Brandon Rebar for closing remarks.
Brandon Rebar - President and CEO - (00:29:38)
Thank you all for joining. Our Q3 conference call. We will be speaking with you soon. Take care.
OPERATOR - (00:29:45)
Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect
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